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All Blacks 2021

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  • TimT Away
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    Tim
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    Knowler's squad:

    Possible All Blacks squad:

    Hookers: Dane Coles, Codie Taylor, Asafo Aumua.

    Props: Nepo Laulala, Tyrel Lomax, Angus Ta’avao, George Bower, Karl Tu’inukuafe, Alex Hodgman.

    Locks: Brodie Retallick, Sam Whitelock, Scott Barrett, Patrick Tuipulotu, Tupou Vaa’i.

    Loose forwards: Ardie Savea, Hoskins Sotutu, Dalton Papalii, Ethan Blackadder, Luke Jacobson, Akira Ioane, Shannon Frizell.

    Halfbacks: Aaron Smith, Brad Weber, Finlay Christie.

    First five-eighths: Richie Mo’unga, Beauden Barrett.

    Midfielders: Rieko Ioane, David Havili, Braydon Ennor, Anton Lienert-Brown.

    Outside backs: Jordie Barrett, Damian McKenzie, Will Jordan, Sevu Reece, George Bridge, Leicester Fainga’anuku.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300337718/all-blacks-david-havilis-could-be-welcomed-in-from-cold-when-squad-named

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    • TimT Tim

      Knowler's squad:

      Possible All Blacks squad:

      Hookers: Dane Coles, Codie Taylor, Asafo Aumua.

      Props: Nepo Laulala, Tyrel Lomax, Angus Ta’avao, George Bower, Karl Tu’inukuafe, Alex Hodgman.

      Locks: Brodie Retallick, Sam Whitelock, Scott Barrett, Patrick Tuipulotu, Tupou Vaa’i.

      Loose forwards: Ardie Savea, Hoskins Sotutu, Dalton Papalii, Ethan Blackadder, Luke Jacobson, Akira Ioane, Shannon Frizell.

      Halfbacks: Aaron Smith, Brad Weber, Finlay Christie.

      First five-eighths: Richie Mo’unga, Beauden Barrett.

      Midfielders: Rieko Ioane, David Havili, Braydon Ennor, Anton Lienert-Brown.

      Outside backs: Jordie Barrett, Damian McKenzie, Will Jordan, Sevu Reece, George Bridge, Leicester Fainga’anuku.

      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300337718/all-blacks-david-havilis-could-be-welcomed-in-from-cold-when-squad-named

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      #1062

      @tim I think Ennor might be good enough to make the ABs, but he's mostly been injured the last two years so I can't be sure.

      I've seen very little from George Bridge or Finlay Christie to suggest they should be in this squad. Journeymen both. I've reservations about Bower around the park and big concerns about Lomax at scrum time.

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        atu moli could be a smokey if he is fit

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        • TimT Tim

          Knowler's squad:

          Possible All Blacks squad:

          Hookers: Dane Coles, Codie Taylor, Asafo Aumua.

          Props: Nepo Laulala, Tyrel Lomax, Angus Ta’avao, George Bower, Karl Tu’inukuafe, Alex Hodgman.

          Locks: Brodie Retallick, Sam Whitelock, Scott Barrett, Patrick Tuipulotu, Tupou Vaa’i.

          Loose forwards: Ardie Savea, Hoskins Sotutu, Dalton Papalii, Ethan Blackadder, Luke Jacobson, Akira Ioane, Shannon Frizell.

          Halfbacks: Aaron Smith, Brad Weber, Finlay Christie.

          First five-eighths: Richie Mo’unga, Beauden Barrett.

          Midfielders: Rieko Ioane, David Havili, Braydon Ennor, Anton Lienert-Brown.

          Outside backs: Jordie Barrett, Damian McKenzie, Will Jordan, Sevu Reece, George Bridge, Leicester Fainga’anuku.

          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300337718/all-blacks-david-havilis-could-be-welcomed-in-from-cold-when-squad-named

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          taniwharugby
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          @tim some quality editing there

          ebeefe56-66c7-4a3f-80d8-0b4f326be217-image.png

          From a Northland perspective, its great most seem to have Tom left out!

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          • sparkyS sparky

            @tim I think Ennor might be good enough to make the ABs, but he's mostly been injured the last two years so I can't be sure.

            I've seen very little from George Bridge or Finlay Christie to suggest they should be in this squad. Journeymen both. I've reservations about Bower around the park and big concerns about Lomax at scrum time.

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            @sparky said in All Blacks 2021:

            @tim I think Ennor might be good enough to make the ABs, but he's mostly been injured the last two years so I can't be sure.

            I've seen very little from George Bridge or Finlay Christie to suggest they should be in this squad. Journeymen both. I've reservations about Bower around the park and big concerns about Lomax at scrum time.

            Those are probably the names that stick out for me in that list as well.

            If we have spots where the decision is between someone merely adequate or one with potential to be very good in a couple of years time I would go with the latter eg Zarn Sullivan over Bridge.

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              atu moli could be a smokey if he is fit

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              @ploughboy said in All Blacks 2021:

              atu moli could be a smokey if he is fit

              Good player. Strong too. Is he fit? What side of the scrum is he these days?

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              • number9N number9

                @cgrant Ross and de Groot struggled against the Blues pack.

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                @number9 said in All Blacks 2021:

                @cgrant Ross and de Groot struggled against the Blues pack.

                So you've forgotten about what the Chiefs scrum did to the Blues in Hamilton?

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                • TimT Away
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                  #1068

                  The team must've been leaked by now.

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                  • TimT Away
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                    Tim
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                    #1069

                    TVNZ Sport is basically picking the same squad as Knowler (PUJ in for ALB, 35 so no Bridge). Taukei'aho over Aumua is the only real difference.

                    Props: Nepo Laulala, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Tyrel Lomax, George Bower, Angus Ta’avao, Alex Hodgman

                    Hookers: Codie Taylor, Dane Coles, Samisoni Taukei'aho

                    Locks: Sam Whitelock (captain), Brodie Retallick, Scott Barrett, Patrick Tuipulotu, Tupo Vaa'i

                    Loose forwards: Ardie Savea, Hoskins Sotutu, Dalton Papalii, Ethan Blackadder, Shannon Frizell, Akira Ioane, Luke Jacobson

                    Halfbacks: Aaron Smith, Brad Weber, Finlay Christie

                    First-fives: Richie Mo'unga, Beauden Barrett

                    Midfielders: Rieko Ioane, David Havili, Braydon Ennor, Peter Umaga-Jensen

                    Outside backs: Jordie Barrett, Sevu Reece, Leicester Fainga'anuku, Damian McKenzie, Will Jordan

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                    • TimT Tim

                      TVNZ Sport is basically picking the same squad as Knowler (PUJ in for ALB, 35 so no Bridge). Taukei'aho over Aumua is the only real difference.

                      Props: Nepo Laulala, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Tyrel Lomax, George Bower, Angus Ta’avao, Alex Hodgman

                      Hookers: Codie Taylor, Dane Coles, Samisoni Taukei'aho

                      Locks: Sam Whitelock (captain), Brodie Retallick, Scott Barrett, Patrick Tuipulotu, Tupo Vaa'i

                      Loose forwards: Ardie Savea, Hoskins Sotutu, Dalton Papalii, Ethan Blackadder, Shannon Frizell, Akira Ioane, Luke Jacobson

                      Halfbacks: Aaron Smith, Brad Weber, Finlay Christie

                      First-fives: Richie Mo'unga, Beauden Barrett

                      Midfielders: Rieko Ioane, David Havili, Braydon Ennor, Peter Umaga-Jensen

                      Outside backs: Jordie Barrett, Sevu Reece, Leicester Fainga'anuku, Damian McKenzie, Will Jordan

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                      @tim they also have Samisoni Taukei'aho over Aumua

                      I thought TJ playing on weekend made him eligible?

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                      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                        @tim they also have Samisoni Taukei'aho over Aumua

                        I thought TJ playing on weekend made him eligible?

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                        @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

                        I thought TJ playing on weekend made him eligible?

                        He needs to play for Wellington, so must be only first class rugby.

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                          Nepia
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                          So Ennor would be making it on form from 2 years ago?

                          I wonder what the Ginga Messiah would need to do to make it at this stage?

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                          • NepiaN Nepia

                            So Ennor would be making it on form from 2 years ago?

                            I wonder what the Ginga Messiah would need to do to make it at this stage?

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                            @nepia said in All Blacks 2021:

                            So Ennor would be making it on form from 2 years ago?

                            That's gotta be the luckiest selection for some time. As a centre he doesn't even standout in NPC games.

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                            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                              @tim they also have Samisoni Taukei'aho over Aumua

                              I thought TJ playing on weekend made him eligible?

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                              @taniwharugby Aumua has been a beast this season with limited minutes (mainly because of injury). I reckon he's easily top 3 in those Hooking stocks. I'd argue from what I've seen from him this year he probably offers more than Coles now.

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                              • NepiaN Nepia

                                So Ennor would be making it on form from 2 years ago?

                                I wonder what the Ginga Messiah would need to do to make it at this stage?

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                                @nepia move to 'saderland? 😉

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                                  Bovidae
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                                  Obviously the AB ginga quota is set at one if Christie gets selected and Robinson or Grace don't.

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                                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                    Obviously the AB ginga quota is set at one if Christie gets selected and Robinson or Grace don't.

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                                    @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                                    Obviously the AB ginga quota is set at one if Christie gets selected and Robinson or Grace don't.

                                    Sheesh, that's by far the wrong ginga, plus it upsets the all Maori halfback rule. Wharau Whakatawa getting injured has messed things up.

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                                      Wonder if Sullivan will train with the squad on one of their "apprentice" arrangements?

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                                      • TimT Tim

                                        @nepia said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        So Ennor would be making it on form from 2 years ago?

                                        That's gotta be the luckiest selection for some time. As a centre he doesn't even standout in NPC games.

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                                        #1079

                                        @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        @nepia said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        So Ennor would be making it on form from 2 years ago?

                                        That's gotta be the luckiest selection for some time. As a centre he doesn't even standout in NPC games.

                                        When did he last play NPC? Also 2 years ago?

                                        Edited to add that he last played NPC in 2019 (5 games only).

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                                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                          @number9 said in All Blacks 2021:

                                          @cgrant Ross and de Groot struggled against the Blues pack.

                                          So you've forgotten about what the Chiefs scrum did to the Blues in Hamilton?

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                                          @bovidae no mate I have not forgotten what the refs interpretation of the scrum rules did to the Blues Pack in Hamilton. That ref performance was fucking disgusting.

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