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All Blacks 2021

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    For the loose forwards, it must have been Blackadder vs Robinson. I would have chosen the latter as he offers something different but Plumtree seemed to like the fact Blackadder could also play 7.

    Happy for Quinn but he was as surprised as the rest of us. As mentioned, PUJ suffered from a lack of opportunity.

    Christie, Ennor and Bridge should buy a lotto ticket tonight.

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    • BonesB Bones

      @antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:

      @higgins said in All Blacks 2021:

      Finlay Christie will be the next subject of bitter press attacks from up north in their next tirade on poaching. I appeal to the NZRFU to rescind that particular selection to appease those upset about blatant poaching.

      I'm worried he'll get capped.

      Why in a team stacked with blindside flankers isn't Big Red selected?

      How is it we have so few fit props? The two competent ones make Owen look like a young Jones.

      Christie
      Mounga
      Bridge
      Tupaea
      Ennor
      Barrett
      McKenzie

      Nice knowing you bro, good luck with your implosion.

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      @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

      @antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:

      @higgins said in All Blacks 2021:

      Finlay Christie will be the next subject of bitter press attacks from up north in their next tirade on poaching. I appeal to the NZRFU to rescind that particular selection to appease those upset about blatant poaching.

      I'm worried he'll get capped.

      Why in a team stacked with blindside flankers isn't Big Red selected?

      How is it we have so few fit props? The two competent ones make Owen look like a young Jones.

      Christie
      Mounga
      Bridge
      Tupaea
      Ennor
      Barrett
      McKenzie

      Nice knowing you bro, good luck with your implosion.

      The stuff of nightmares.

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      • pukunuiP pukunui

        What an underwhelming squad. Pretty lucky to only be playing Fiji and Tonga first up. RC might get ugly if there are any further injuries.

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        @pukunui said in All Blacks 2021:

        What an underwhelming squad. Pretty lucky to only be playing Fiji and Tonga first up. RC might get ugly if there are any further injuries.

        You could roll out an AB less Super squad and still squash Fiji and Tonga by bucketloads. Made with the proviso the I. Foster has nothing to do with the coashing.

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        • TimT Offline
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          #1174

          Hodgman, Ross, Grace, Robinson, Faingaanuku, and PUJ will be smashing opposition players in NPC.

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          • BovidaeB Bovidae

            For the loose forwards, it must have been Blackadder vs Robinson. I would have chosen the latter as he offers something different but Plumtree seemed to like the fact Blackadder could also play 7.

            Happy for Quinn but he was as surprised as the rest of us. As mentioned, PUJ suffered from a lack of opportunity.

            Christie, Ennor and Bridge should buy a lotto ticket tonight.

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            #1175

            @bovidae Ennor and Bridge - I mean, at least Faingaanuku showed something on the park. Sure Bridge and Ennor have been selected before, but not like they've absolutely blown everyone away - they've been ordinary mostly.

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            • ChrisC Chris

              @steven-harris said in All Blacks 2021:

              @chris would love to see Sam Nock head to the crusaders , he would thrive in the environment.., has a much faster pass than either Bryn or Mitchell .Mounga won’t know what to do , he’ll have so much time ..

              Would like to see that myself. He is a lot like Smith if you really look at his game.Kicks well great pass and his running game is there he just needs the chance and confidence to know he can have a crack.
              Not sure On Enari. the Crusaders maybe looking for a young HB to develop, unless they go for Young Luke Donaldson from the Academy I expect he will back up Drummond in the NPC.

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              Steven Harris
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              @chris , the other thing is , now that Christie is an All Black , how much game time is he really going to get at the Blues .?.and you are very astute, he has one of the better passes both ways and in my opinion one of the better high kick games in the country .and is a bloody good defender ,.he’s getting totally screwed at the Blues , have heard he’s looking at a move ..the Saders would be an awesome fit , look how that panned out for Bryn Hall .

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              • StargazerS Offline
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                The worst selection IMO is Christie. Great liability, but he's obviously only there because TJP and Fakatava aren't in the squad. He won't be in the Rugby Championship squad, when TJP returns.

                Blackadder comes in for Grace.
                I think it was between Robinson and AIoane for one spot; I'd have preferred big Red, but it is what it is.

                Tupaea is probably only there because of the absence of Goodhue.

                De Groot is there because Moody is injured; Ta'avao or Lomax benefit from Ofa's injury.

                Many of these selections are injury enforced.

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                • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                  @tim just lucky the opposition for this squad is weak, which will paper over plenty of cracks

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                  @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

                  @tim just lucky the opposition for this squad is weak, which will paper over plenty of cracks

                  My concern is which of them will the Muppet Collective drop for the RC? Because Australia can put together a pretty competitive 23.

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                  • TimT Tim

                    If Lomax and Ta'avao are the backups, we'd better hope that Laulala stays fit.

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                    @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

                    If Lomax and Ta'avao are the backups, we'd better hope that Laulala stays fit.

                    Which is why I’d have had Mafileo. Then Lomax OR Ta’avao.

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                    • BonesB Bones

                      @bovidae Ennor and Bridge - I mean, at least Faingaanuku showed something on the park. Sure Bridge and Ennor have been selected before, but not like they've absolutely blown everyone away - they've been ordinary mostly.

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                      @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

                      @bovidae Ennor and Bridge - I mean, at least Faingaanuku showed something on the park. Sure Bridge and Ennor have been selected before, but not like they've absolutely blown everyone away - they've been ordinary mostly.

                      Nuts isn’t it. The less they play the better they were apparently.

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                      • antipodeanA antipodean

                        @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

                        @tim just lucky the opposition for this squad is weak, which will paper over plenty of cracks

                        My concern is which of them will the Muppet Collective drop for the RC? Because Australia can put together a pretty competitive 23.

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                        taniwharugby
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                        #1181

                        @antipodean well assuming no injuries, only Christie for TJ? Is Cane back for RC or was he gone for the season?

                        Thing is Aaron needs a light series given his super work load, meaning Christie WILL get a decent chunk of minutes I expect

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                          Surely it was either Christie or Drummond to cover TJ absence. No shock there for me. B

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                            Surely it was either Christie or Drummond to cover TJ absence. No shock there for me. B

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                            @arhs said in All Blacks 2021:

                            Surely it was either Christie or Drummond to cover TJ absence. No shock there for me. B

                            Then Drummond was a walk up start. I'm near astonished anyone could watch Christie play and think he's Test quality. Our game depends on speed and they pick the slowest person to get to rucks, with the slowest decision making and a shit pass to round things off.

                            Look up Aaron Smith in the dictionary and under antonym it says Finlay Christie.

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                            • Chris B.C Offline
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                              #1184

                              The somewhat unfortunate thing about this year's squad is that during Super Rugby Aotearoa, it was looking to me that we'd have a significantly better AB team than last year - but, I think injuries and unavailability have made this squad look a little bit fragile.

                              But, when you slot Moody, Tu'ungafasi, Cane, Perenara, Goodhue and Clarke into that team, it's going to look significantly stronger. I've probably forgotten a missing stalwart or two, as well.

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                              • BonesB Bones

                                @bovidae Ennor and Bridge - I mean, at least Faingaanuku showed something on the park. Sure Bridge and Ennor have been selected before, but not like they've absolutely blown everyone away - they've been ordinary mostly.

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                                #1185

                                @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

                                @bovidae Ennor and Bridge - I mean, at least Faingaanuku showed something on the park. Sure Bridge and Ennor have been selected before, but not like they've absolutely blown everyone away - they've been ordinary mostly.

                                I think Robertson would have chosen Ennor and Bridge as well.

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                                  RTS will back himself to crack a squad like this in 12 months time.

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                                    Final test XXIII?

                                    1 Tui'nukuafe
                                    2 Taylor
                                    3 Laulala
                                    4 Retallick
                                    5 Whitelock
                                    6 Ioane
                                    7 Savea
                                    8 Sotutu

                                    9 Smith
                                    10 Barrett
                                    11 Ioane
                                    12 Havili
                                    13 ALB
                                    14 Jordan
                                    15 McKenzie

                                    16 Coles
                                    17 Bower
                                    18 Ta'avao
                                    19 Barrett/Tuipulotu
                                    20 Papalii
                                    21 Weber
                                    22 Mo'unga
                                    23 J Barrett

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                                      Kirwan
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                                      How bad are the available wings if Bridge and Reece get in? And Frizell only plays well at Super level, is crap at Test level.

                                      Would have picked Robinson there for sure.

                                      All the posters pointing at Finlay are forgetting how bad Weber is.

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                                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                                        The worst selection IMO is Christie. Great liability, but he's obviously only there because TJP and Fakatava aren't in the squad. He won't be in the Rugby Championship squad, when TJP returns.

                                        Blackadder comes in for Grace.
                                        I think it was between Robinson and AIoane for one spot; I'd have preferred big Red, but it is what it is.

                                        Tupaea is probably only there because of the absence of Goodhue.

                                        De Groot is there because Moody is injured; Ta'avao or Lomax benefit from Ofa's injury.

                                        Many of these selections are injury enforced.

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                                        #1189

                                        @stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        The worst selection IMO is Christie. Great liability, but he's obviously only there because TJP and Fakatava aren't in the squad. He won't be in the Rugby Championship squad, when TJP returns.

                                        I agree. For me, watching SA & Trans Ta$man from afar, Christie is the clear 3rd choice at 9. I'm OK with his selection, but def. not OK with the depth at 9 in NZ at the moment. The gap between AS and the rest is worrying.

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                                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                          For the loose forwards, it must have been Blackadder vs Robinson. I would have chosen the latter as he offers something different but Plumtree seemed to like the fact Blackadder could also play 7.

                                          Happy for Quinn but he was as surprised as the rest of us. As mentioned, PUJ suffered from a lack of opportunity.

                                          Christie, Ennor and Bridge should buy a lotto ticket tonight.

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                                          @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                                          For the loose forwards, it must have been Blackadder vs Robinson. I would have chosen the latter as he offers something different but Plumtree seemed to like the fact Blackadder could also play 7.

                                          Not sure about that.

                                          I reckon Ardie will be the starting 7, with Papali'i his understudy.

                                          Jacobson and Sotutu the No. 8s.

                                          Akira and Frizell the blindsides.

                                          I reckon Blackadder becomes the sort of Ardie/Masoe bench man who can cover all three.

                                          Tom might have needed to push out Akira or Shannon?

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