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  • No QuarterN Online
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    Twitter thread

    This woman is worth following. Really knows her stuff and was heavily involved in advising world rugby when they reviewed trans women playing against women.

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  • JCJ Offline
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    This stream is from a disabled transwoman athlete who is firmly of the belief that transwomen's participation in female sport is unfair. BTW she has some blistering opinions about Stonewall, Mermaids etc as well. Someone I'd love to have a drink with and hear her out.

    serenstar4

    One of the tweets:
    So, Hubbard takes the place of a female athlete who has worked tirelessly to be the best & made huge personal sacrifices, only to have it taken away by someone who has been through male puberty. The IOC & sports bodies are promoting unfair, unethical & misogynous policy, repugnant.

    And:

    Im almost tempted to get into a throwing frame & show up the absurdity of allowing bio M to compete in women's sports categories. Likely my first shot putt will break the current British Women's record, then logged in my name meaning that a woman is robbed of her achievement. No!

    Edit: Hat tip to @No-Quarter , found through the link you provided earlier

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  • No QuarterN Online
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    No Quarter
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    #159

    In case anyone was still on the fence about this, here's just how much of a farce Hubbard competing against women is

    Plus graph which is quoted further down the above thread

    IMG_20210601_232106.jpg

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  • TimT Away
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    @no-quarter That's a remarkable presentation of the data. Would be amusing if it was submitted to one of those infographics awards.

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  • canefanC Online
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    Kiwi weightlifter to become first trans athlete to compete at Olympics

    FFS

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    @canefan said in Olympics Thread:

    Kiwi weightlifter to become first trans athlete to compete at Olympics

    FFS

    Really sad all round

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    @mofitzy_ said in Olympics Thread:

    @canefan
    Embarrassing, just hope we don't medal in that event.

    Part of me wants zher to smash the comp to pieces, to highlight the ridiculousness.

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    @booboo
    That'll work too.

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    @booboo said in Olympics Thread:

    @mofitzy_ said in Olympics Thread:

    @canefan
    Embarrassing, just hope we don't medal in that event.

    Part of me wants zher to smash the comp to pieces, to highlight the ridiculousness.

    Completely agree. Although part of me fears for the backlash of what will happen in other trans related discussions points should this happen. Thats one for the politics forum though.

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    And the poor 2021 sacrificial women who we are asking to have their Olympic dream destroyed to the long-term gain of the sport.

    No good outcome out of this.

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    There will be some huge Chinese, Russian or Bulgarian women who will lift more tin.

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    @bovidae said in Olympics Thread:

    There will be some huge Chinese, Russian or Bulgarian women who will lift more tin.

    The Russians and Bulgarians didn’t win a single weightlifting medal in Rio.

    At any rate, it’s ridiculous that she’s even a medal contender. How many sports other than maybe shooting or equestrian even have a 43 year old competing?

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    @rancid-schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:

    @bovidae said in Olympics Thread:

    There will be some huge Chinese, Russian or Bulgarian women who will lift more tin.

    The Russians and Bulgarians didn’t win a single weightlifting medal in Rio.

    At any rate, it’s ridiculous that she’s even a medal contender. How many sports other than maybe shooting or equestrian even have a 43 year old competing?

    Bowls

    Oh wait that’s the Commonwealth

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    @rancid-schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:

    @bovidae said in Olympics Thread:

    There will be some huge Chinese, Russian or Bulgarian women who will lift more tin.

    The Russians and Bulgarians didn’t win a single weightlifting medal in Rio.

    There wasn't a super heavyweight division in Rio. At the last World Championships in 2019 the top 3 were from China (x2) and Russia.

    If you want a comparison, at the 2019 WC Hubbard's total was 285 kg and she finished 6th. The 3rd place getter lifted a combined 311 kg. The winner lifted 332 kg.

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    @rancid-schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:

    @bovidae said in Olympics Thread:

    There will be some huge Chinese, Russian or Bulgarian women who will lift more tin.

    The Russians and Bulgarians didn’t win a single weightlifting medal in Rio.

    At any rate, it’s ridiculous that she’s even a medal contender. How many sports other than maybe shooting or equestrian even have a 43 year old competing?

    44 year old MN5 finally gives up hope of a comeback…..

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    @mn5 said in Olympics Thread:

    @rancid-schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:

    @bovidae said in Olympics Thread:

    There will be some huge Chinese, Russian or Bulgarian women who will lift more tin.

    The Russians and Bulgarians didn’t win a single weightlifting medal in Rio.

    At any rate, it’s ridiculous that she’s even a medal contender. How many sports other than maybe shooting or equestrian even have a 43 year old competing?

    44 year old MN5 finally gives up hope of a comeback…..

    The op is still an option by the look of it.

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  • MN5M Offline
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    @crucial said in Olympics Thread:

    @mn5 said in Olympics Thread:

    @rancid-schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:

    @bovidae said in Olympics Thread:

    There will be some huge Chinese, Russian or Bulgarian women who will lift more tin.

    The Russians and Bulgarians didn’t win a single weightlifting medal in Rio.

    At any rate, it’s ridiculous that she’s even a medal contender. How many sports other than maybe shooting or equestrian even have a 43 year old competing?

    44 year old MN5 finally gives up hope of a comeback…..

    The op is still an option by the look of it.

    Are you assuming my gender ?

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    @mn5 said in Olympics Thread:

    @crucial said in Olympics Thread:

    @mn5 said in Olympics Thread:

    @rancid-schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:

    @bovidae said in Olympics Thread:

    There will be some huge Chinese, Russian or Bulgarian women who will lift more tin.

    The Russians and Bulgarians didn’t win a single weightlifting medal in Rio.

    At any rate, it’s ridiculous that she’s even a medal contender. How many sports other than maybe shooting or equestrian even have a 43 year old competing?

    44 year old MN5 finally gives up hope of a comeback…..

    The op is still an option by the look of it.

    Are you assuming my gender ?

    Only because you seem to do so yourself.

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  • MN5M Offline
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    replied to Crucial on last edited by
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    @crucial said in Olympics Thread:

    @mn5 said in Olympics Thread:

    @crucial said in Olympics Thread:

    @mn5 said in Olympics Thread:

    @rancid-schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:

    @bovidae said in Olympics Thread:

    There will be some huge Chinese, Russian or Bulgarian women who will lift more tin.

    The Russians and Bulgarians didn’t win a single weightlifting medal in Rio.

    At any rate, it’s ridiculous that she’s even a medal contender. How many sports other than maybe shooting or equestrian even have a 43 year old competing?

    44 year old MN5 finally gives up hope of a comeback…..

    The op is still an option by the look of it.

    Are you assuming my gender ?

    Only because you seem to do so yourself.

    I’ll invent my own and then invent a sport to compete in.

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