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  • BonesB Bones

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

    The fern (and public) view of Akira is mind-boggling. Sure he had some games where he looked lazy two years ago, maybe a year ago. But to say he wasn't more than decent for the ABs last year (or this final) is bizarre

    This kind of thing is almost up there with FDS though. Who is saying that?

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    @bones it was some poster in this thread I think. I'm saving the civilized world on another forum but if I have time I'll find it for you.

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    • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

      @nepia never said his performances in the black jersey we'rent lacking, although i still think he done better than the fail mark a lot seem to give him, have made it quite clear Akira proved last year he deserves a run of games to see if he can make it is own

      was just meaning it seems like Akria gets a lot of support because people are so anti frizell and they need to make it quite clear who is better than him

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      @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2021:

      @nepia never said his performances in the black jersey we'rent lacking, although i still think he done better than the fail mark a lot seem to give him, have made it quite clear Akira proved last year he deserves a run of games to see if he can make it is own

      was just meaning it seems like Akria gets a lot of support because people are so anti frizell and they need to make it quite clear who is better than him

      TBH I don’t think they’re necessarily always linked. Akira gets a lot of support because the anti Akira crowd just came up with bullshit reasons for not liking him and changed the goalpost when the reasons were shown to be hookum.

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        I'd like Akira to get a decent run of games against decent teams to see if he is actually good. At this stage I don't think any of us can know for sure. Given no one has made the 6 jersey their own he deserves the same opportunities that others have had. He is definitely good enough for that.

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        • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

          @bones it was some poster in this thread I think. I'm saving the civilized world on another forum but if I have time I'll find it for you.

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          @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

          @bones it was some poster in this thread I think. I'm saving the civilized world on another forum but if I have time I'll find it for you.

          Good luck finding it...

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          • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

            I'd like Akira to get a decent run of games against decent teams to see if he is actually good. At this stage I don't think any of us can know for sure. Given no one has made the 6 jersey their own he deserves the same opportunities that others have had. He is definitely good enough for that.

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            @crazy-horse yep as I think he has gone missing in some games previously (when up against quality opposition) although has been a bit more consistent of late, certainly has the chance to claim the jersey for himself though.

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            • BonesB Bones

              @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

              @bones it was some poster in this thread I think. I'm saving the civilized world on another forum but if I have time I'll find it for you.

              Good luck finding it...

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              @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

              @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

              @bones it was some poster in this thread I think. I'm saving the civilized world on another forum but if I have time I'll find it for you.

              Good luck finding it...

              you are right, perhaps the meds are working, perhaps it was in the Blues thread perhaps on another tab (NZHerald or Stuff) but I can't find it. I recall clear as day, today, reading someone saying that Akira wasn't good for the ABs and I thought one poster here indirectly responded to it. But now I can't find it. Maybe I have just reached peak madness.

              Yeah maybe it was poster Blair065 on stuff, I have impugned innocent Ferners, my bad!

              "If we are being truthful A Ioane and Tuipuloto who have had numerous chances at higher honours could consider themselves lucky to be getting yet another chance"

              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300338611/all-blacks-squad-the-unlucky-ones-the-new-faces-and-controversial-call

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              • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

                @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

                @bones it was some poster in this thread I think. I'm saving the civilized world on another forum but if I have time I'll find it for you.

                Good luck finding it...

                you are right, perhaps the meds are working, perhaps it was in the Blues thread perhaps on another tab (NZHerald or Stuff) but I can't find it. I recall clear as day, today, reading someone saying that Akira wasn't good for the ABs and I thought one poster here indirectly responded to it. But now I can't find it. Maybe I have just reached peak madness.

                Yeah maybe it was poster Blair065 on stuff, I have impugned innocent Ferners, my bad!

                "If we are being truthful A Ioane and Tuipuloto who have had numerous chances at higher honours could consider themselves lucky to be getting yet another chance"

                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300338611/all-blacks-squad-the-unlucky-ones-the-new-faces-and-controversial-call

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                @nostrildamus fuck you Blair!

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                • BonesB Bones

                  @nostrildamus fuck you Blair!

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                  @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

                  @nostrildamus fuck you Blair!

                  Probably the best offer Blair has had in some time. I don't think he/she/they is/are the only one, there is a recent article that the AB 6 position has still not been solved and they haven't found anyone since ... Liam Squire? (I don't know, won't pay to see) ...

                  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby-up-for-grabs-all-blacks-search-for-dominant-blindside-continues/CKGLJRHWG6LWSJCTUOUJUGO2TQ/

                  I'd need to go back to the tests but I recall Akira being a fairly dominant 6 in those last few tests.. and when compared to the AB career of Liam Squire...

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                  • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                    @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

                    @nostrildamus fuck you Blair!

                    Probably the best offer Blair has had in some time. I don't think he/she/they is/are the only one, there is a recent article that the AB 6 position has still not been solved and they haven't found anyone since ... Liam Squire? (I don't know, won't pay to see) ...

                    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby-up-for-grabs-all-blacks-search-for-dominant-blindside-continues/CKGLJRHWG6LWSJCTUOUJUGO2TQ/

                    I'd need to go back to the tests but I recall Akira being a fairly dominant 6 in those last few tests.. and when compared to the AB career of Liam Squire...

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                    @nostrildamus I'd venture to say, whilst it was a good outing, they might view "solved" as being more than 2 tests. So we'd be looking for it to be solved this season.

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                      I would agree that the AB's 6 is far from solved, Akira has earned his turn to make it his own but he hasn't done it yet, fingers crossed

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                        What is wrong with Rugby Pass these days? Another shocker article of pure waffle from Hamish Bidwell on the ab selection topic where only the last line seems pertinent. The rugby public deserve far better than this from journos.

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                        • A ARHS

                          What is wrong with Rugby Pass these days? Another shocker article of pure waffle from Hamish Bidwell on the ab selection topic where only the last line seems pertinent. The rugby public deserve far better than this from journos.

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                          @arhs Bidwell is one of the worst Journos in NZ. I try and stay well clear of anything he has to say.

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                          • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                            @arhs Bidwell is one of the worst Journos in NZ. I try and stay well clear of anything he has to say.

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                            @canes4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                            @arhs Bidwell is one of the worst Journos in NZ. I try and stay well clear of anything he has to say.

                            I second this. Bidwell is horrendous.

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                              Speaking of NZ journalism....

                              Tupaea, standing at 1.86 metres and weighing 96 kilograms, will bring a rigorous force to the 12 jumper that has not been seen in an All Blacks side since the days of Ma'a Nonu.
                              

                              Without wanting to turn this into an Ardie - height joke fest. a quick google tells me Havili, Goodhue and ALB are all basically the same size as Tupaea.

                              I remember getting annoyed in 2013 when they compared Francis Sai'ili to Ma'a Nonu. Some things don't change. Just like "the next Jonah" or "the next Kaino/Collins" etc ....

                              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby-all-blacks-and-chiefs-players-angus-taavao-and-damian-mckenzie-applaud-special-talent-quinn-tupaea-following-maiden-selection/5SF6HE7HDCLPUDSFCYQUZXSTGE/

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                              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                Speaking of NZ journalism....

                                Tupaea, standing at 1.86 metres and weighing 96 kilograms, will bring a rigorous force to the 12 jumper that has not been seen in an All Blacks side since the days of Ma'a Nonu.
                                

                                Without wanting to turn this into an Ardie - height joke fest. a quick google tells me Havili, Goodhue and ALB are all basically the same size as Tupaea.

                                I remember getting annoyed in 2013 when they compared Francis Sai'ili to Ma'a Nonu. Some things don't change. Just like "the next Jonah" or "the next Kaino/Collins" etc ....

                                https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby-all-blacks-and-chiefs-players-angus-taavao-and-damian-mckenzie-applaud-special-talent-quinn-tupaea-following-maiden-selection/5SF6HE7HDCLPUDSFCYQUZXSTGE/

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                                @kiwimurph Not disagreeing with your point but ALB is actually 103 kg now.

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                                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                  @kiwimurph Not disagreeing with your point but ALB is actually 103 kg now.

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                                  #1378

                                  @bovidae Goodhue has been tipping the ton for a while too, Rieko is probably the heaviest?

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                                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                      @bovidae Goodhue has been tipping the ton for a while too, Rieko is probably the heaviest?

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                                      @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

                                      @bovidae Goodhue has been tipping the ton for a while too, Rieko is probably the heaviest?

                                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/119131935/blues-star-rieko-ioane-sheds-the-kilos-for-his-shot-at-rugby-redemption-in-2020

                                      Mind you this article is soooooo last year

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                                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300340523/all-blacks-reenergised-brodie-retallick-says-japan-stint-just-what-the-doctor-ordered

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                                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300340523/all-blacks-reenergised-brodie-retallick-says-japan-stint-just-what-the-doctor-ordered

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                                          @stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:

                                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300340523/all-blacks-reenergised-brodie-retallick-says-japan-stint-just-what-the-doctor-ordered

                                          He looks good in Crusader red.

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