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  • StargazerS Stargazer

    @chris said in NPC - news, injuries etc:

    A few players not there ,Naholo,Matele,Debreczini,Williams,Darry, Prinsep, Harmon
    and a few on the bench that will probably start.

    I think most players, who played for the Maori ABs and national squads over the past few weeks, won't play yet this weekend. That doesn't explain all these names missing on squad lists, but quite a few.

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    @stargazer said in NPC - news, injuries etc:

    @chris said in NPC - news, injuries etc:

    A few players not there ,Naholo,Matele,Debreczini,Williams,Darry, Prinsep, Harmon
    and a few on the bench that will probably start.

    I think most players, who played for the Maori ABs and national squads over the past few weeks, won't play yet this weekend. That doesn't explain all these names missing on squad lists, but quite a few.

    Maybe saving some petrol in the tank for the start of NPC,
    and a chance to look at some others like Johnson and Kellow from the academy

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    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

      @mikey07 I'm picking the following loose forwards - Kirifi, Smith, Delany, Savea (All Blacks), Whitman, Lakai, Halalilo, Ropeti and Ben-Nicholas (if he hasn't left NZ already).

      If I had to pick a top Wellington XV right now minus All Blacks you are probably looking at something like this:

      1. Numia
      2. Thompson
      3. Fidow
      4. Blackwell
      5. Bird
      6. Delany
      7. Kirifi
      8. Ben-Nicholas
      9. Judd
      10. Morgan
      11. Goosen
      12. Umaga-Jensen
      13. Proctor
      14. Savea
      15. Love
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      @canes4life TBN left on Tuesday, I haven’t heard anything about Whitman have you seen anything on him, but yes very weird a few Canes players aren’t lacing up for Wellington, I haven’t even seen Billy Proctors name on MSPs team list since the Canes finished.

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      • StargazerS Stargazer

        @canes4life said in NPC - news, injuries etc:

        @chris shit, he has the worst luck. Is that a different injury to the one that finished his Super campaign?

        The kid has spent more time on the sideline than on the field so far in his career. Hope he can turn it around.

        Yes, see this post in the Otago 2021 thread: https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/post/607109

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        @stargazer His Partner also had a baby about 3 weeks ago so 2021 isn’t a complete right off. (TUJ I’m talking about)

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        • BovidaeB Bovidae

          @canes4life Is Delany any good? Not Plumtree at 6?

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          @bovidae I think Plumtree injured himself a couple of weeks ago playing for OBU so not too sure how long he's out for. Delany should get first crack, he's been in and around the Canes for a couple of seasons.. I rate him but would like to see him have a good campaign for the Lions before taking the next step to Super.

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            @canes4life TBN left on Tuesday, I haven’t heard anything about Whitman have you seen anything on him, but yes very weird a few Canes players aren’t lacing up for Wellington, I haven’t even seen Billy Proctors name on MSPs team list since the Canes finished.

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            @mikey07 probably because he played for the Maori All Blacks. Loose forward / Prop are looking like a real weakness for Wellington this year. Will be interestsing to see who they pick in those areas.

            I haven't seen too much of Whitman so can't judge too much but he may get the 8 jersey as there aren't too many other options out there.

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            • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

              @bovidae I think Plumtree injured himself a couple of weeks ago playing for OBU so not too sure how long he's out for. Delany should get first crack, he's been in and around the Canes for a couple of seasons.. I rate him but would like to see him have a good campaign for the Lions before taking the next step to Super.

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              @canes4life Can you see him taking Mitchell’s 5th locking spot then?

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                @canes4life Can you see him taking Mitchell’s 5th locking spot then?

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                @mikey07 Is this in reference to Delany or Whitman? I think Delany will pick up Fifita's spot and if Plumtree hasn't yet commited to the Blues, he might grab that 5th locking spot.

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                • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                  @mikey07 probably because he played for the Maori All Blacks. Loose forward / Prop are looking like a real weakness for Wellington this year. Will be interestsing to see who they pick in those areas.

                  I haven't seen too much of Whitman so can't judge too much but he may get the 8 jersey as there aren't too many other options out there.

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                  @canes4life didn’t even click about him being with the MABs, There’s some talented loosies coming through bit raw at the moment, Props always been our weakness not much there behind Armstrong, Fidow and Numia.

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                    @canes4life didn’t even click about him being with the MABs, There’s some talented loosies coming through bit raw at the moment, Props always been our weakness not much there behind Armstrong, Fidow and Numia.

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                    @mikey07 who are the loosies coming through that you rate?

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                    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                      @mikey07 probably because he played for the Maori All Blacks. Loose forward / Prop are looking like a real weakness for Wellington this year. Will be interestsing to see who they pick in those areas.

                      I haven't seen too much of Whitman so can't judge too much but he may get the 8 jersey as there aren't too many other options out there.

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                      @canes4life I can only remember Whitman from playing for the NZ Māori U20s in their game against Fiji U20s. Not sure, but I think he's a cousin of the Thompson twins, who played in that same game? Also plays for Marist St Pat's.

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                      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                        @mikey07 Is this in reference to Delany or Whitman? I think Delany will pick up Fifita's spot and if Plumtree hasn't yet commited to the Blues, he might grab that 5th locking spot.

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                        @canes4life Sorry Delany…again I forgot about Plumtree in an ideal world we could have them both instead of Holland’s lovechild.

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                        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                          @mikey07 who are the loosies coming through that you rate?

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                          @canes4life said in NPC - news, injuries etc:

                          @mikey07 who are the loosies coming through that you rate?

                          Dominic Ropeti and Sione halalilo from OBU, Akira Ieremia from Tawa and Sam Smith from Wainui.

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                            @canes4life said in NPC - news, injuries etc:

                            @mikey07 who are the loosies coming through that you rate?

                            Dominic Ropeti and Sione halalilo from OBU, Akira Ieremia from Tawa and Sam Smith from Wainui.

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                            @mikey07 nice, there is also Peter Lakai from Petone who was the only one from that young crop to make the NZ under 20s this year.

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                              @canes4life TBN left on Tuesday, I haven’t heard anything about Whitman have you seen anything on him, but yes very weird a few Canes players aren’t lacing up for Wellington, I haven’t even seen Billy Proctors name on MSPs team list since the Canes finished.

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                              @mikey07 said in NPC - news, injuries etc:

                              @canes4life TBN left on Tuesday, I haven’t heard anything about Whitman have you seen anything on him, but yes very weird a few Canes players aren’t lacing up for Wellington, I haven’t even seen Billy Proctors name on MSPs team list since the Canes finished.

                              There could be perfectly good reasons for him not making the MSP team like the Doolies coaches not considering him good enough to unseat the incumbent, or something as simple as not being a financial member of the club.

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                                @mikey07 said in NPC - news, injuries etc:

                                @canes4life TBN left on Tuesday, I haven’t heard anything about Whitman have you seen anything on him, but yes very weird a few Canes players aren’t lacing up for Wellington, I haven’t even seen Billy Proctors name on MSPs team list since the Canes finished.

                                There could be perfectly good reasons for him not making the MSP team like the Doolies coaches not considering him good enough to unseat the incumbent, or something as simple as not being a financial member of the club.

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                                @higgins is the incumbent JP Tocker?

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                                • BonesB Bones

                                  @higgins is the incumbent JP Tocker?

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                                  @bones Not at the moment!!! The incumbent is Ben Tuiatua who I know diddly squat about other than this appearing to be his first season at Premier level for MSP. He musty be getting a bit long in the tooth as he was playing Prem Reserve way back in 2010.
                                  http://www.clubrugby.co.nz/wellington/clubs-teams-people.php?person_id=2313

                                  There is also a mention of someone that might be him being included in the Wgtn Samoan Squad in 2015 playing out of the Ories Club. http://www.collegerugby.co.nz/national/story.php?id=1591&page=12&sort=`date`+DESC&searchfield=&searchstring=

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                                    @Canes4life

                                    Where's Connor Garden-Bachop at with his rehab. Is he going to be back in time.

                                    Here's a quote from the ODT article about the pre-season game with Southland.

                                    "Most notable among the injured players was midfielder Thomas Umaga-Jensen.

                                    The 23-year-old has had a horror run of injuries in recent years and picked up a ‘‘banged-up shoulder’’ in club rugby last Saturday.

                                    Donnelly said the team was waiting on assessments to determine how bad it was and what it would mean for his role this year.

                                    "

                                    https://www.odt.co.nz/sport/rugby/club-rugby/chance-otago-test-itself-0

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                                      @Canes4life

                                      Where's Connor Garden-Bachop at with his rehab. Is he going to be back in time.

                                      Here's a quote from the ODT article about the pre-season game with Southland.

                                      "Most notable among the injured players was midfielder Thomas Umaga-Jensen.

                                      The 23-year-old has had a horror run of injuries in recent years and picked up a ‘‘banged-up shoulder’’ in club rugby last Saturday.

                                      Donnelly said the team was waiting on assessments to determine how bad it was and what it would mean for his role this year.

                                      "

                                      https://www.odt.co.nz/sport/rugby/club-rugby/chance-otago-test-itself-0

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                                      @southernmann haven't heard anything about CGB but I expect him to be named in the squad. Same with his bro.

                                      That's shit for Thomas aye, what point as a player do you say enough is enough and start to look at another path?

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                                        He doesn't make your top 15?

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                                        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                          @southernmann haven't heard anything about CGB but I expect him to be named in the squad. Same with his bro.

                                          That's shit for Thomas aye, what point as a player do you say enough is enough and start to look at another path?

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                                          @canes4life said in NPC - news, injuries etc:

                                          @southernmann haven't heard anything about CGB but I expect him to be named in the squad. Same with his bro.

                                          That's shit for Thomas aye, what point as a player do you say enough is enough and start to look at another path?

                                          I wouldn't move on even if injured all the time. He's young and banking 6 figures each year.

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