Future of The Rugby Championship
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If want to do a one-nation tournament. Then could do a Southern Hemisphere Championship, once every 4 years. 4 current SANZAAR teams plus 3 PIs, plus Uruguay. 2 groups of 4, then a finals weekend (like the Autumn Nations Cup just been).
While a tournament with a final would be good practice for NZ (and all others). It won't help us practice our way past our 1/4 peak, semi-final flop syndrome.
Other tournament I have suggested on here before is Pan-Pacific Championship. NZ + Aus, Japan, 3 PIs, USA & Canada. Again 2 groups of 4 plus a finals weekend. I suggested this as a way for NZ to venture into Japanese TV money (and future USA potential) without wrecking TRC. Played in November window once every 4 years instead of touring. Because of timezones, this one doesn't need to be single country host. Although Tonga's inability to host any home matches means it would probably be the best format for the forseeable future.
I suggested this as I liked the geographic integrity of TRC being pseudo Southern Hemisphere championship. So wasn't keen on adding Japan.
But adding Japan to current TRC is probably the easiest hanging fruit.
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@canefan said in Future of The Rugby Championship:
@Rapido could be the mid year between RWCs, like the Euro football champs
Lions tour?
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@mariner4life said in Future of The Rugby Championship:
@canefan said in Future of The Rugby Championship:
@Rapido could be the mid year between RWCs, like the Euro football champs
Lions tour?
Pan-Pacifics would work in that window.
Not the Southern Hemisphere Championship, though, obviously, as 1 of them will be hosting the Lions. -
as i mentioned in the Japan in Super rugby thread, i enjoyed watching them play on the weekend, they were creative and tried a variety of approaches throughout the game and made good yards at times, would love to see them play against Argentina or Aussie to get a better gauge
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@canefan I doubt very much that Scotland or Italy would want to see any change to the 6 Nations status quo, least of all promotion and relegation.
The 6 Nations is already financially lucrative for England and Wales, although both unions have expressed some support to closer links to Japan. Who wouldn't want the world third largest economy as part of their tournament?
If there is support for South Africa joining the Six Nations, then it is from Ireland and France. More games against the Boks would undoubtedly increase their revenues.
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@sparky said in Future of The Rugby Championship:
@canefan I doubt very much that Scotland or Italy would want to see any change to the 6 Nations status quo, least of all promotion or relegation.
The 6 Nations is already financially lucrative for England and Wales, although both unions have expressed some support to closer links to Japan. Who wouldn't want the world third largest economy as part of their tournament?
If there is support for South Africa joining the Six Nations, then it is from Ireland and France. More games against the Boks would undoubtedly increase their revenues.
Don’t lump the mighty Scots in with those Spagetti eating losers. THREE Scots are in the Lions starting line up this weekend !
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@sparky said in Future of The Rugby Championship:
@mn5 Indeed and Scotland finished above England in this year's Six Nations!
In terms of voting, Scotland has historically been a conservative and well run union, I can't see much appetite for change from them.
…….and Italy are in the midst of a 30 game losing streak having not won since 2015 against Scotland.
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@mn5 Italy's presence in the 6 Nations make less and less sporting sense.
But I suspect most England, Welsh, Scots, Irish and French fans would prefer the thought of a boozy weekend in Rome to one in Tbilisi or the cost of stumping up a trip to Tokyo or Johannesburg every other year.
Only way I could see the Springboks entry to the 6 Nations working at all would be if they based themselves in Amsterdam or Manchester for the tournament's duration.
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@canefan said in Future of The Rugby Championship:
@sparky said in Future of The Rugby Championship:
Sharks CEO backs Springboks joining the 6 Nations.
Do the 6N actually want the Boks?
Also, WR would be stupid to weaken the other strong competition - it's not good for international rugby, which they're supposed to be in charge of.
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@nepia said in Future of The Rugby Championship:
@canefan said in Future of The Rugby Championship:
@sparky said in Future of The Rugby Championship:
Sharks CEO backs Springboks joining the 6 Nations.
Do the 6N actually want the Boks?
Also, WR would be stupid to weaken the other strong competition - it's not good for international rugby, which they're supposed to be in charge of.
Depends who is running WR I guess....
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@nepia said in Future of The Rugby Championship:
@canefan said in Future of The Rugby Championship:
@sparky said in Future of The Rugby Championship:
Sharks CEO backs Springboks joining the 6 Nations.
Do the 6N actually want the Boks?
Also, WR would be stupid to weaken the other strong competition - it's not good for international rugby, which they're supposed to be in charge of.
WR have no say in who is in RC or 6N, so that's irrelevant. I would imagine that investment group that brought a chunk of the 6N would be very keen to have the boks in
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It makes no sense from a sporting sense. It would become a mini World Cup every year for the teams that can win it apart from including the All Blacks. Devaluing the RWC and the TRC in the process.
Plus Italy are equal shareholders in the 6 nations company so it would have to be the 7 nations as if they tried to replace Italy, there would be outrage and probably years of litigation to follow.
Then we keep hearing about the traditions of the 6 nations. This would throw that out of the window completely.
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@dagrubster said in Future of The Rugby Championship:
It makes no sense from a sporting sense. It would become a mini World Cup every year for the teams that can win it apart from including the All Blacks. Devaluing the RWC and the TRC in the process.
Plus Italy are equal shareholders in the 6 nations company so it would have to be the 7 nations as if they tried to replace Italy, there would be outrage and probably years of litigation to follow.
Then we keep hearing about the traditions of the 6 nations. This would throw that out of the window completely.
Typical periodic sabre rattling by a group of saffas that don't speak for SARFU
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