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Stadium of Canterbury

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  • RapidoR Rapido

    @mariner4life said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    on a related but completely opposite note, the same dreamers who are always pushing this stuff are trying to leverage our possibility of hosting Olympic football in 2032 to once again try for a 20,000 seat stadium

    In a city of 150,000

    without a major sports team to play in it

    I am sure the 800 strong crowd at a Northern Pride game will loooove all the additional space

    I am becoming more and more convinced that the people who work in public infrastructure are mentally deficient

    It's interesting the stadium capacities for NZ towns and cities compared to size of town. They are ridiculous.

    (I've used the new proposed one for Chch)

    OK, some of them are just a grandstand plus banks and terraces. But still.

    Invercargill is probably not much different to current Cairns. But I assume the new Cairns proposal is more bells and whistles than Rugby Park, and whatever Cairns have. They used an athletics stadium in the RLWC? That was a bit shit, I admit.

    1f037718-2a08-45b9-9a75-b5ebd19390d0-image.png Population Stadium Capapcity % of population
    Whangarei 54400 18500 34%
    Auckland 1470000 47000 3%
    Pukekohe 26500 12000 45%
    Hamilton 176500 25800 15%
    Tauranga 151300 5000 3%
    New Plymouth 57600 22000 38%
    Napier-Hastings 115300 19700 17%
    Palmerston North 81500 15000 18%
    Wellington 429700 34500 8%
    Nelson 51100 18000 35%
    Christchurch 383200 25000 7%
    Dunedin 106200 30748 29%
    Invercargill 50200 18000 36%

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    @rapido London 9 Mill Wembley 90K 1% /shrug

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      @rapido London 9 Mill Wembley 90K 1% /shrug

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      @dogmeat how many other stadiums over 20k does london have though, id say more than 10

      the rational of % of population does have an upper limit as we're just never going to get +200k full seated stadiums

      edit: looked it up, exactly 10

      • Wembley Stadium 90,000 City
        Arsenal Emirates Stadium 60,000 City
        West Ham United London Stadium 60,000 City
        Chelsea Stamford Bridge 41,837 City
        Tottenham Hotspur White Hart Lane 36,240 City
        Charlton Athletic The Valley 27,111 City
        Crystal Palace Selhurst Park 26,225 City
        Fulham Craven Cottage 25,700 City
        Reading Madejski Stadium 24,161 Region
        Watford Vicarage Road 21,500 Metro
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      • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

        @dogmeat how many other stadiums over 20k does london have though, id say more than 10

        the rational of % of population does have an upper limit as we're just never going to get +200k full seated stadiums

        edit: looked it up, exactly 10

        • Wembley Stadium 90,000 City
          Arsenal Emirates Stadium 60,000 City
          West Ham United London Stadium 60,000 City
          Chelsea Stamford Bridge 41,837 City
          Tottenham Hotspur White Hart Lane 36,240 City
          Charlton Athletic The Valley 27,111 City
          Crystal Palace Selhurst Park 26,225 City
          Fulham Craven Cottage 25,700 City
          Reading Madejski Stadium 24,161 Region
          Watford Vicarage Road 21,500 Metro
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        @kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:

        @dogmeat how many other stadiums over 20k does london have though, id say more than 10

        the rational of % of population does have an upper limit as we're just never going to get +200k full seated stadiums

        edit: looked it up, exactly 10

        • Wembley Stadium 90,000 City
          Arsenal Emirates Stadium 60,000 City
          West Ham United London Stadium 60,000 City
          Chelsea Stamford Bridge 41,837 City
          Tottenham Hotspur White Hart Lane 36,240 City
          Charlton Athletic The Valley 27,111 City
          Crystal Palace Selhurst Park 26,225 City
          Fulham Craven Cottage 25,700 City
          Reading Madejski Stadium 24,161 Region
          Watford Vicarage Road 21,500 Metro

        Isn't at least one big stadium missing from that list?

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        • gt12G gt12

          @kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:

          @dogmeat how many other stadiums over 20k does london have though, id say more than 10

          the rational of % of population does have an upper limit as we're just never going to get +200k full seated stadiums

          edit: looked it up, exactly 10

          • Wembley Stadium 90,000 City
            Arsenal Emirates Stadium 60,000 City
            West Ham United London Stadium 60,000 City
            Chelsea Stamford Bridge 41,837 City
            Tottenham Hotspur White Hart Lane 36,240 City
            Charlton Athletic The Valley 27,111 City
            Crystal Palace Selhurst Park 26,225 City
            Fulham Craven Cottage 25,700 City
            Reading Madejski Stadium 24,161 Region
            Watford Vicarage Road 21,500 Metro

          Isn't at least one big stadium missing from that list?

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          @gt12 oh yeah! didn't even check it, should you how football focused things in the UK can get

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          • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

            @gt12 oh yeah! didn't even check it, should you how football focused things in the UK can get

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            @kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:

            @gt12 oh yeah! didn't even check it, should you how football focused things in the UK can get

            Just here to support your argument, there is definitely more than 10.

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            • gt12G gt12

              @kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:

              @gt12 oh yeah! didn't even check it, should you how football focused things in the UK can get

              Just here to support your argument, there is definitely more than 10.

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              @gt12 just checked and the google result just said london stadiums but the actual list says "football", other than twickers i thin the rugby ones are a bit smaller...checking is a step too far

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              • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                @gt12 just checked and the google result just said london stadiums but the actual list says "football", other than twickers i thin the rugby ones are a bit smaller...checking is a step too far

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                @kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                checking is a step too far

                For god's sake don't do that, completely against the fern ethos.

                Had me worried for a minute there.

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                • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                  @gt12 just checked and the google result just said london stadiums but the actual list says "football", other than twickers i thin the rugby ones are a bit smaller...checking is a step too far

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                  @kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                  @gt12 just checked and the google result just said london stadiums but the actual list says "football", other than twickers i thin the rugby ones are a bit smaller...checking is a step too far

                  Lords and The Oval.

                  However ... Watford and Reading aren't London.

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                  • RapidoR Rapido

                    @kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                    @gt12 just checked and the google result just said london stadiums but the actual list says "football", other than twickers i thin the rugby ones are a bit smaller...checking is a step too far

                    Lords and The Oval.

                    However ... Watford and Reading aren't London.

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                    @rapido watfords at least inside the M25...;)

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                    • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                      @dogmeat how many other stadiums over 20k does london have though, id say more than 10

                      the rational of % of population does have an upper limit as we're just never going to get +200k full seated stadiums

                      edit: looked it up, exactly 10

                      • Wembley Stadium 90,000 City
                        Arsenal Emirates Stadium 60,000 City
                        West Ham United London Stadium 60,000 City
                        Chelsea Stamford Bridge 41,837 City
                        Tottenham Hotspur White Hart Lane 36,240 City
                        Charlton Athletic The Valley 27,111 City
                        Crystal Palace Selhurst Park 26,225 City
                        Fulham Craven Cottage 25,700 City
                        Reading Madejski Stadium 24,161 Region
                        Watford Vicarage Road 21,500 Metro
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                      @kiwiwomble Yeah I wasn't really trying to show the total capacity of London's stadia - after all you can only go to one at a time.

                      I wasn't even that interested in Wembley's the /shrug was supposed to indicate that I think the whole idea of looking at a stadiums capacity as a % of the local population is meh - so what. Sall population centres will always have a higher % and big ones lower but I don't think it signifies 5/8 Fuck All.

                      However as you went to all that effort. Craven Cottage is currently being redeveloped to make it even more awesome and will have a capacity of 30K when it re-opens 😉

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                      • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                        @shark you're probably the best person to ask, are the surrounding regional councils chipping in now? i know a couple of years back they generally said no but maybe thats changed?

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                        @kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                        @shark you're probably the best person to ask, are the surrounding regional councils chipping in now? i know a couple of years back they generally said no but maybe thats changed?

                        No they are not another sore point as Chch city council have not requested them too.

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                        • ChrisC Chris

                          @kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                          @shark you're probably the best person to ask, are the surrounding regional councils chipping in now? i know a couple of years back they generally said no but maybe thats changed?

                          No they are not another sore point as Chch city council have not requested them too.

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                          @chris good, i dont feel bad about flaming my aunt and some friends that i know live in rural canterbury suddenly becoming very vocal on the socals about it, fair enough those that will actually pay and use it

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                          • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                            @dogmeat how many other stadiums over 20k does london have though, id say more than 10

                            the rational of % of population does have an upper limit as we're just never going to get +200k full seated stadiums

                            edit: looked it up, exactly 10

                            • Wembley Stadium 90,000 City
                              Arsenal Emirates Stadium 60,000 City
                              West Ham United London Stadium 60,000 City
                              Chelsea Stamford Bridge 41,837 City
                              Tottenham Hotspur White Hart Lane 36,240 City
                              Charlton Athletic The Valley 27,111 City
                              Crystal Palace Selhurst Park 26,225 City
                              Fulham Craven Cottage 25,700 City
                              Reading Madejski Stadium 24,161 Region
                              Watford Vicarage Road 21,500 Metro
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                            @kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                            @dogmeat how many other stadiums over 20k does london have though, id say more than 10

                            the rational of % of population does have an upper limit as we're just never going to get +200k full seated stadiums

                            edit: looked it up, exactly 10

                            • Wembley Stadium 90,000 City
                              Arsenal Emirates Stadium 60,000 City
                              West Ham United London Stadium 60,000 City
                              Chelsea Stamford Bridge 41,837 City
                              Tottenham Hotspur White Hart Lane 36,240 City
                              Charlton Athletic The Valley 27,111 City
                              Crystal Palace Selhurst Park 26,225 City
                              Fulham Craven Cottage 25,700 City
                              Reading Madejski Stadium 24,161 Region
                              Watford Vicarage Road 21,500 Metro

                            That new Brentford one is 20k isn't it ? Nice tidy development with housing etc.

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                              @kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                              @dogmeat how many other stadiums over 20k does london have though, id say more than 10

                              the rational of % of population does have an upper limit as we're just never going to get +200k full seated stadiums

                              edit: looked it up, exactly 10

                              • Wembley Stadium 90,000 City
                                Arsenal Emirates Stadium 60,000 City
                                West Ham United London Stadium 60,000 City
                                Chelsea Stamford Bridge 41,837 City
                                Tottenham Hotspur White Hart Lane 36,240 City
                                Charlton Athletic The Valley 27,111 City
                                Crystal Palace Selhurst Park 26,225 City
                                Fulham Craven Cottage 25,700 City
                                Reading Madejski Stadium 24,161 Region
                                Watford Vicarage Road 21,500 Metro

                              Isn't at least one big stadium missing from that list?

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                              @gt12 said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                              @kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                              @dogmeat how many other stadiums over 20k does london have though, id say more than 10

                              the rational of % of population does have an upper limit as we're just never going to get +200k full seated stadiums

                              edit: looked it up, exactly 10

                              • Wembley Stadium 90,000 City
                                Arsenal Emirates Stadium 60,000 City
                                West Ham United London Stadium 60,000 City
                                Chelsea Stamford Bridge 41,837 City
                                Tottenham Hotspur White Hart Lane 36,240 City
                                Charlton Athletic The Valley 27,111 City
                                Crystal Palace Selhurst Park 26,225 City
                                Fulham Craven Cottage 25,700 City
                                Reading Madejski Stadium 24,161 Region
                                Watford Vicarage Road 21,500 Metro

                              Isn't at least one big stadium missing from that list?

                              The information for Spurs is a touch out of date too.

                              @dogmeat said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                              @kiwiwomble Yeah I wasn't really trying to show the total capacity of London's stadia - after all you can only go to one at a time.

                              I wasn't even that interested in Wembley's the /shrug was supposed to indicate that I think the whole idea of looking at a stadiums capacity as a % of the local population is meh - so what. Sall population centres will always have a higher % and big ones lower but I don't think it signifies 5/8 Fuck All.

                              However as you went to all that effort. Craven Cottage is currently being redeveloped to make it even more awesome and will have a capacity of 30K when it re-opens 😉

                              There are extremely strict policing laws too around what stadiums can have events on the same day too. Only so many police / stewards to go around.

                              Reading is a bit of a stretch too as a London stadium.

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                              • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                @dogmeat how many other stadiums over 20k does london have though, id say more than 10

                                the rational of % of population does have an upper limit as we're just never going to get +200k full seated stadiums

                                edit: looked it up, exactly 10

                                • Wembley Stadium 90,000 City
                                  Arsenal Emirates Stadium 60,000 City
                                  West Ham United London Stadium 60,000 City
                                  Chelsea Stamford Bridge 41,837 City
                                  Tottenham Hotspur White Hart Lane 36,240 City
                                  Charlton Athletic The Valley 27,111 City
                                  Crystal Palace Selhurst Park 26,225 City
                                  Fulham Craven Cottage 25,700 City
                                  Reading Madejski Stadium 24,161 Region
                                  Watford Vicarage Road 21,500 Metro
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                                @kiwiwomble What has happened to The Den as I thought it had the ability to hold slightly over 20,000? Maybe the visitors end has been closed to prevent the inevitable trouble it's occupation will bring.

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                                • HigginsH Higgins

                                  @kiwiwomble What has happened to The Den as I thought it had the ability to hold slightly over 20,000? Maybe the visitors end has been closed to prevent the inevitable trouble it's occupation will bring.

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                                  @higgins haven’t compiled the list myself, just cut and paste it from a very quick google

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                                  • RapidoR Rapido

                                    I remember 1993 Bledisloe in Dunedin. They added extra capacity. 39,000 in a city of about 105,000 at the time.

                                    Let alone seeing 1970s Okara Park full with 30k etc, or say 1983 Rotorua for the Lions match with 30k - each in a town of about 40k at the time.

                                    It was very cheap to maintain a ground that is 85% grass banks. Just a bit of gas money for the tractor mower.

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                                    @rapido said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                    I remember 1993 Bledisloe in Dunedin. They added extra capacity. 39,000 in a city of about 105,000 at the time.

                                    Let alone seeing 1970s Okara Park full with 30k etc, or say 1983 Rotorua for the Lions match with 30k - each in a town of about 40k at the time.

                                    It was very cheap to maintain a ground that is 85% grass banks. Just a bit of gas money for the tractor mower.

                                    That was the first ever million dollar gate in NZ. The ORFU set up the tent village at Bathgate Park for pre and post match festivities for profit and also to take pressure off Dunedin's bars. Massive attendance from visiting fans domestically and internationally.

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                                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/126044306/christchurch-to-get-30000seat-stadium-after-council-backtrack

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                                        [link text](link url)https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/126044306/christchurch-to-get-30000seat-stadium-after-council-backtrack

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                                          [link text](link url)https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/126044306/christchurch-to-get-30000seat-stadium-after-council-backtrack

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                                          @chris said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                          [link text](link url)https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/126044306/christchurch-to-get-30000seat-stadium-after-council-backtrack

                                          About time you useless fucks on the council,

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