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  • RapidoR Rapido

    @mofitzy_ said in Olympics Thread:

    Looking way ahead to Brisbane 2032, what's the chances we will see some form of cricket and netball? And possibly League, although that's highly unlikely.

    It would be great if netball was added. But, I think any new sport added now has to be gender equal. So, it would have to come with men's netball. Which would probably reduce its chances to zero - as it isn't a particularly internationally deep/competitive sport even on the women's side. But is pretty much zero on the men's.

    Which is a shame.

    In the real world netball is going to appeal as a potential path to about 95% more female athlete's than boxing and weight lifting. But, probably painted into a corner on this one.

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    @rapido said in Olympics Thread:

    @mofitzy_ said in Olympics Thread:

    Looking way ahead to Brisbane 2032, what's the chances we will see some form of cricket and netball? And possibly League, although that's highly unlikely.

    It would be great if netball was added. But, I think any new sport added now has to be gender equal. So, it would have to come with men's netball. Which would probably reduce its chances to zero - as it isn't a particularly internationally deep/competitive sport even on the women's side. But is pretty much zero on the men's.

    Which is a shame.

    In the real world netball is going to appeal as a potential path to about 95% more female athlete's than boxing and weight lifting. But, probably painted into a corner on this one.

    why not mixed? all the social indoor netball ive played was mixed, there are plenty of bike that could get up to speed

    could we see them try and get some sort of AFLX as an exhibition...apparently its played more than you think, there's a european league and everything...only competing for silver of course

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    • RapidoR Rapido

      @mofitzy_ said in Olympics Thread:

      Looking way ahead to Brisbane 2032, what's the chances we will see some form of cricket and netball? And possibly League, although that's highly unlikely.

      It would be great if netball was added. But, I think any new sport added now has to be gender equal. So, it would have to come with men's netball. Which would probably reduce its chances to zero - as it isn't a particularly internationally deep/competitive sport even on the women's side. But is pretty much zero on the men's.

      Which is a shame.

      In the real world netball is going to appeal as a potential path to about 95% more female athlete's than boxing and weight lifting. But, probably painted into a corner on this one.

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      @rapido
      Good point, I didn't think of that.

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      • canefanC canefan

        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/olympics/126013174/tokyo-olympics-new-zealand-medal-winners-receive-more-than-usa-australia

        I expected the US and Australia to offer more cash for medals. I guess thats what happens when you win so many it becomes commonplace

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        @canefan said in Olympics Thread:

        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/olympics/126013174/tokyo-olympics-new-zealand-medal-winners-receive-more-than-usa-australia

        I expected the US and Australia to offer more cash for medals. I guess thats what happens when you win so many it becomes commonplace

        I'm actually surprised USA pay anything. Thought it was all pretty much college based, plus outright pros for the sports that actually pay for themselves.

        As for the NZ structure..

        PEGs are paid based on a commitment from athletes to continue campaigning, and is effectively a salary to support their buildup to their next major event.

        When I got to this stage of the article I was thinking, man, that's putting a tough choice on Carrington. To get $180k plus she needs to commit to keep going. Then I read further I see here payout is capped at $60k despite getting 3 golds plus a bronze. So, if she wants to just retire it will be less torturous choice.

        Multiple medallists like canoe sprint star Lisa Carrington, who won three golds, receive the one PEG, which means she and fellow K2 500m champion Caitlin Regal each receive $60,000 under the HPSNZ system,

        Interesting the Olly-Whites get 25k each. That's a lot of spread of resources, 25k per squad member for not medalling. I do however think that was a commendable effort that will advance NZ football, they're a much different propostition from the hoofers of tradition who are starting to advance deeper at youth level and now at this almost senior level tournament, well done.

        members of Olympic teams finishing in the top-eight receive a minimum of $25,000.

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        • RapidoR Rapido

          @canefan said in Olympics Thread:

          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/olympics/126013174/tokyo-olympics-new-zealand-medal-winners-receive-more-than-usa-australia

          I expected the US and Australia to offer more cash for medals. I guess thats what happens when you win so many it becomes commonplace

          I'm actually surprised USA pay anything. Thought it was all pretty much college based, plus outright pros for the sports that actually pay for themselves.

          As for the NZ structure..

          PEGs are paid based on a commitment from athletes to continue campaigning, and is effectively a salary to support their buildup to their next major event.

          When I got to this stage of the article I was thinking, man, that's putting a tough choice on Carrington. To get $180k plus she needs to commit to keep going. Then I read further I see here payout is capped at $60k despite getting 3 golds plus a bronze. So, if she wants to just retire it will be less torturous choice.

          Multiple medallists like canoe sprint star Lisa Carrington, who won three golds, receive the one PEG, which means she and fellow K2 500m champion Caitlin Regal each receive $60,000 under the HPSNZ system,

          Interesting the Olly-Whites get 25k each. That's a lot of spread of resources, 25k per squad member for not medalling. I do however think that was a commendable effort that will advance NZ football, they're a much different propostition from the hoofers of tradition who are starting to advance deeper at youth level and now at this almost senior level tournament, well done.

          members of Olympic teams finishing in the top-eight receive a minimum of $25,000.

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          @rapido said in Olympics Thread:

          I'm actually surprised USA pay anything. Thought it was all pretty much college based

          I think that's old thinking. I expect most of the athletes are pros now

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          • RapidoR Rapido

            @mofitzy_ said in Olympics Thread:

            Looking way ahead to Brisbane 2032, what's the chances we will see some form of cricket and netball? And possibly League, although that's highly unlikely.

            It would be great if netball was added. But, I think any new sport added now has to be gender equal. So, it would have to come with men's netball. Which would probably reduce its chances to zero - as it isn't a particularly internationally deep/competitive sport even on the women's side. But is pretty much zero on the men's.

            Which is a shame.

            In the real world netball is going to appeal as a potential path to about 95% more female athlete's than boxing and weight lifting. But, probably painted into a corner on this one.

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            @rapido said in Olympics Thread:

            @mofitzy_ said in Olympics Thread:

            Looking way ahead to Brisbane 2032, what's the chances we will see some form of cricket and netball? And possibly League, although that's highly unlikely.

            It would be great if netball was added. But, I think any new sport added now has to be gender equal. So, it would have to come with men's netball. Which would probably reduce its chances to zero - as it isn't a particularly internationally deep/competitive sport even on the women's side. But is pretty much zero on the men's.

            Which is a shame.

            In the real world netball is going to appeal as a potential path to about 95% more female athlete's than boxing and weight lifting. But, probably painted into a corner on this one.

            That's so fucking stupid and is a great example of wokeness gone wrong. What bloke anywhere would begrudge the IOC adding Netball to the games? Why are the females getting done out of this opportunity?!!

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              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/olympics/126023104/british-riches-bring-perspective-to-olympic-funding-battle-for-nz-sailors

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                Netball is played in how many nations? About 40? Probably only in Commonwealth nations? Is that enough to get accepted as an Olympic sport, especially as - as someone mentioned earlier in the thread, it's only played by women at representative level?

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                • StargazerS Stargazer

                  Netball is played in how many nations? About 40? Probably only in Commonwealth nations? Is that enough to get accepted as an Olympic sport, especially as - as someone mentioned earlier in the thread, it's only played by women at representative level?

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                  @stargazer said in Olympics Thread:

                  Netball is played in how many nations? About 40? Probably only in Commonwealth nations? Is that enough to get accepted as an Olympic sport, especially as - as someone mentioned earlier in the thread, it's only played by women at representative level?

                  It also has a world cup, which is the pinnacle event, so why?

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                    A bit of emotion in this one ...

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                      Machpants
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                      Yeah nothing to do with being woke. It's to do with it being a real minority sport that only came about because some Muppet couldn't read the rules of basketball!

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                      • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                        i havent read the whole thread, have we talked about the Russian Olympic Committee? thoughts? does it undermine the ban to allow them to compete under a very slightly different name

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                        @kiwiwomble said in Olympics Thread:

                        i havent read the whole thread, have we talked about the Russian Olympic Committee? thoughts? does it undermine the ban to allow them to compete under a very slightly different name

                        Of course not. Commendable solution from the IOC to permit hard working athletes to compete and yet punish state sanctioned doping. No one reads or hears "Russian Olympic Committee" and thinks "Russia". Veeerry different.

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                        • M Machpants

                          Yeah nothing to do with being woke. It's to do with it being a real minority sport that only came about because some Muppet couldn't read the rules of basketball!

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                          @machpants said in Olympics Thread:

                          Yeah nothing to do with being woke. It's to do with it being a real minority sport that only came about because some Muppet couldn't read the rules of basketball!

                          I have no issue if its excluded for not being widely played enough - that's a perfectly acceptable way to assess something (though I would hope the guidelines are being applied consistently). My point is just that the "must be played by both genders" criteria is completely stupid and should be ditched

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                            Crucial
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                            Some terrible and sad news here..

                            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/olympics/300378726/olympian-cyclist-olivia-podmores-family-mourn-her-sudden-death

                            I don't know what happens with NZ Cycling post selection processes so am not making judgement but would hope that when an athlete has put everything into their sport including meeting qualification but isn't selected there is a level of care to mitigate the mental impact.

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                            • CrucialC Crucial

                              Some terrible and sad news here..

                              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/olympics/300378726/olympian-cyclist-olivia-podmores-family-mourn-her-sudden-death

                              I don't know what happens with NZ Cycling post selection processes so am not making judgement but would hope that when an athlete has put everything into their sport including meeting qualification but isn't selected there is a level of care to mitigate the mental impact.

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                              @crucial shit thats sad

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                              • M Machpants

                                Yeah nothing to do with being woke. It's to do with it being a real minority sport that only came about because some Muppet couldn't read the rules of basketball!

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                                @machpants wasn't it modified esp for women of the time? https://www.latrobe.edu.au/news/articles/2018/release/the-story-of-netball

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                                • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                  @machpants wasn't it modified esp for women of the time? https://www.latrobe.edu.au/news/articles/2018/release/the-story-of-netball

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                                  @nostrildamus said in Olympics Thread:

                                  @machpants wasn't it modified esp for women of the time? https://www.latrobe.edu.au/news/articles/2018/release/the-story-of-netball

                                  Depends who you believe, probably a mix of both

                                  https://netball.sport/game/history-of-netball

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                                  • M Machpants

                                    @nostrildamus said in Olympics Thread:

                                    @machpants wasn't it modified esp for women of the time? https://www.latrobe.edu.au/news/articles/2018/release/the-story-of-netball

                                    Depends who you believe, probably a mix of both

                                    https://netball.sport/game/history-of-netball

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                                    nostrildamus
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                                    @machpants thanks for that

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                                      When I grew up Netball was Basketball (no mention of Womens) and Basketball was Indoor Basketball

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                                      • dogmeatD dogmeat

                                        When I grew up Netball was Basketball (no mention of Womens) and Basketball was Indoor Basketball

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                                        @dogmeat said in Olympics Thread:

                                        When I grew up Netball was Basketball (no mention of Womens) and Basketball was Indoor Basketball

                                        I remember my grandmother telling me that. I wonder if you knew her? 😉

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                                        • CrucialC Crucial

                                          @dogmeat said in Olympics Thread:

                                          When I grew up Netball was Basketball (no mention of Womens) and Basketball was Indoor Basketball

                                          I remember my grandmother telling me that. I wonder if you knew her? 😉

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                                          @crucial I did know a Nana Crucial. Said her young grandson was a right fluffybunny and a bit of a retard. Ring a bell?

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