Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..)
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Long story short the coaching staff became totally ambivelant about how the game should be played and the positional requirements at All Black level.
They started to fetishise getting in the squad rather than the 23 or 15.
There are a lot of issues but I think most start from there. How many players currently own their All Black jersey? Fuck all.
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A big part of rugby is winning the collisions.
When you've got a lot of little guys in the team, you start to lose too many and too many in a row - and you get hurt.
You need a few playmakers - the best of whom tend to be a bit smaller and you have to accept they'll get flattened or run over occasionally - but, I like to have plenty of big guys around them so that there's bail out options regularly on hand and guys who can cover defensively. I miss Ma'a Nonu!
When we start fielding an under-sized 8 in Ardie, Aaron Smith, Mo'unga, Havili (a smallish 12), Sevu Reece and DMac that's starting to get a bit Japan-like to me.
I'm inclined to throw in a few more bigger bodies.
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@bones said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
Rennie found out.
No Professor on the staff.
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@kiwi_expat said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
While I'm not sold on DMac starting at 15, I have to disagree on this
Play him against tier-two opponents and he looks a million dollars, play him against big imposing physical sides and he'll get flattened, time and again.
He was pretty damn good at 15 against the likes of Wales, Ireland in 2018 - and outstanding against England on that tour and I'd hardly call those teams tier two or lacking physicality.
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@act-crusader said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
When do we stop saying Ardie is “out of position” at no.8 when he has played more there for the Canes and ABs in the last 3 seasons than he has at openside.
When he starts from the bench?
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@victor-meldrew said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@kiwi_expat said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
While I'm not sold on DMac starting at 15, I have to disagree on this
Play him against tier-two opponents and he looks a million dollars, play him against big imposing physical sides and he'll get flattened, time and again.
He was pretty damn good at 15 against the likes of Wales, Ireland in 2018 - and outstanding against England on that tour and I'd hardly call those teams tier two or lacking physicality.
Then he had his knee injury and it all went to shit.
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@antipodean said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@victor-meldrew said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@kiwi_expat said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
While I'm not sold on DMac starting at 15, I have to disagree on this
Play him against tier-two opponents and he looks a million dollars, play him against big imposing physical sides and he'll get flattened, time and again.
He was pretty damn good at 15 against the likes of Wales, Ireland in 2018 - and outstanding against England on that tour and I'd hardly call those teams tier two or lacking physicality.
Then he had his knee injury and it all went to shit.
Yeah, seems to have lost a bit of snap.
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@nta said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
Guess we can lock this thread then?
The title was too long, and the content of the first post, really.
One try that wasn't a break out from their own half wasn't it? Conceded three.
Problem solved.
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@rotated said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@nta said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
Guess we can lock this thread then?
The title was too long, and the content of the first post, really.
One try that wasn't a break out from their own half wasn't it? Conceded three.
Problem solved.
Huh?
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@nta said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@rotated said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@nta said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
Guess we can lock this thread then?
The title was too long, and the content of the first post, really.
One try that wasn't a break out from their own half wasn't it? Conceded three.
Problem solved.
Huh?
A shit ton of broken field tries in a single game doesn't address the main issues discussed in this thread.
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@rotated said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@nta said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@rotated said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@nta said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
Guess we can lock this thread then?
The title was too long, and the content of the first post, really.
One try that wasn't a break out from their own half wasn't it? Conceded three.
Problem solved.
Huh?
A shit ton of broken field tries in a single game doesn't address the main issues discussed in this thread.
I agree. Just not sure why you're quoting me about it.
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@nta said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@rotated said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@nta said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@rotated said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@nta said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
Guess we can lock this thread then?
The title was too long, and the content of the first post, really.
One try that wasn't a break out from their own half wasn't it? Conceded three.
Problem solved.
Huh?
A shit ton of broken field tries in a single game doesn't address the main issues discussed in this thread.
I agree. Just not sure why you're quoting me about it.
I interpreted the lock the thread comment as being due to the win on Saturday night. If not my mistake.
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@rotated said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@nta said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@rotated said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@nta said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@rotated said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@nta said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
Guess we can lock this thread then?
The title was too long, and the content of the first post, really.
One try that wasn't a break out from their own half wasn't it? Conceded three.
Problem solved.
Huh?
A shit ton of broken field tries in a single game doesn't address the main issues discussed in this thread.
I agree. Just not sure why you're quoting me about it.
I interpreted the lock the thread comment as being due to the win on Saturday night. If not my mistake.
Ah gotcha!
Look it is hard to keep up with exactly where the bitching starts and stops with you guys. 35 point flogging and people still want to yeet a bloke.
Tough crowd.
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@nta said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@rotated said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@nta said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@rotated said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@nta said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@rotated said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@nta said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
Guess we can lock this thread then?
The title was too long, and the content of the first post, really.
One try that wasn't a break out from their own half wasn't it? Conceded three.
Problem solved.
Huh?
A shit ton of broken field tries in a single game doesn't address the main issues discussed in this thread.
I agree. Just not sure why you're quoting me about it.
I interpreted the lock the thread comment as being due to the win on Saturday night. If not my mistake.
Ah gotcha!
Look it is hard to keep up with exactly where the bitching starts and stops with you guys. 35 point flogging and people still want to yeet a bloke.
Tough crowd.
When you've been knocked out of three consecutive World Cups by a side that you put 50+ on earlier in the year you learn to take those wins with a grain of salt.
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@rotated said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@nta said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@rotated said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@nta said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@rotated said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@nta said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@rotated said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
@nta said in Hansen/Foster's recent selection philosophy & the consequences it has on team balance (back-row, back-three, bench etc..):
Guess we can lock this thread then?
The title was too long, and the content of the first post, really.
One try that wasn't a break out from their own half wasn't it? Conceded three.
Problem solved.
Huh?
A shit ton of broken field tries in a single game doesn't address the main issues discussed in this thread.
I agree. Just not sure why you're quoting me about it.
I interpreted the lock the thread comment as being due to the win on Saturday night. If not my mistake.
Ah gotcha!
Look it is hard to keep up with exactly where the bitching starts and stops with you guys. 35 point flogging and people still want to yeet a bloke.
Tough crowd.
When you've been knocked out of three consecutive World Cups by a side that you put 50+ on earlier in the year you learn to take those wins with a grain of salt.
Never put your gift in a horse's mouth. Or something.
