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2021 Rugby Championship

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  • ChrisC Chris

    @kiwimurph said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300385815/all-blacks-v-wallabies-west-australian-premier-casts-doubt-over-third-bledisloe-cup-test

    As I suspected unlikely to play any RC in WA.It could be canned.
    QLD is community covid free, probably best chance to play is here.
    But the NRL is being run out of QLD maybe tough to find Grounds etc.

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    @chris said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

    @kiwimurph said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300385815/all-blacks-v-wallabies-west-australian-premier-casts-doubt-over-third-bledisloe-cup-test

    As I suspected unlikely to play any RC in WA.It could be canned.
    QLD is community covid free, probably best chance to play is here.
    But the NRL is being run out of QLD maybe tough to find Grounds etc.

    Go on McGowan, let them play on Rottnest.

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    • BovidaeB Bovidae

      McGowan also didn’t think there was much hope that other Rugby Championship games involving Argentina and the Springboks would be held in Perth, which has been mooted as a possibility. “I think it would be unlikely, it’s not our No 1 priority.’’

      Is Qld the only other option in Australia?

      I'd rather the games against the Boks not be played than having them in a neutral venue. The 100th test match should be a big occasion.

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      @bovidae said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

      McGowan also didn’t think there was much hope that other Rugby Championship games involving Argentina and the Springboks would be held in Perth, which has been mooted as a possibility. “I think it would be unlikely, it’s not our No 1 priority.’’

      Is Qld the only other option in Australia?

      I'd rather the games against the Boks not be played than having them in a neutral venue. The 100th test match should be a big occasion.

      Tasmania? I’d fly back for that!

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        Can you imagine what the logistic managers for SA and Arg are going through at the moment. They need to find hotels and flights for 50-odd people, training venues and local travel arrangements, all cased on a number of different possible scenarios.

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          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/covid-19-coronavirus-delta-outbreak-all-blacks-dealt-another-blow-as-australia-suspends-quarantine-free-travel-from-new-zealand/P3TA5XOTNBGTXK6REVFEQDATMM/

          Australia has suspended quarantine free travel from New Zealand until at least next Monday.

          Any person flying from New Zealand to Australia will need to undergo 14 days in hotel quarantine. The pause is set to be reviewed in the next 24 hours.

          That comes after Perth - the All Blacks' destination for the third Bledisloe Cup test next week - paused their arrangement with New Zealand yesterday.

          The Western Australian government on Wednesday announced travellers from New Zealand would be required to self-quarantine for 14 days.

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            https://twitter.com/SweeneyPaddy9/status/1428147179336593412?s=19

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              The decision to try to play games in multiple countries was stupid as hell, as the arrangement was very fragile. Just settle on one place and play everything there as a tournament.

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              • TimT Tim

                The decision to try to play games in multiple countries was stupid as hell, as the arrangement was very fragile. Just settle on one place and play everything there as a tournament.

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                @tim said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                The decision to try to play games in multiple countries was stupid as hell, as the arrange was very fragile. Just settle on one place and play everything there as a tournament.

                I can understand it - the $$$ are too much to not try; what is important is the fallback position when it goes pear shaped.

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                • nzzpN nzzp

                  @tim said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                  The decision to try to play games in multiple countries was stupid as hell, as the arrange was very fragile. Just settle on one place and play everything there as a tournament.

                  I can understand it - the $$$ are too much to not try; what is important is the fallback position when it goes pear shaped.

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                  @nzzp And now no dollars. Perhaps the basline dollars were too much to risk? Very dumb management. Any change would have to involve another two weeks in quarantine, so any fall back position was going to be fucked anyway.

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                  • TimT Tim

                    @nzzp And now no dollars. Perhaps the basline dollars were too much to risk? Very dumb management. Any change would have to involve another two weeks in quarantine, so any fall back position was going to be fucked anyway.

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                    @tim said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                    @nzzp And now no dollars. Perhaps the basline dollars were too much to risk? Very dumb management. Any change would have to involve another two weeks in quarantine, so any fall back position was going to be fucked anyway.

                    smart risk management would have been to head out to WA as soon as Auckland got played. Not ideal for players, but best for the championship. I mean, how else do you mitigate the (small) risk of a sudden 2 week quarantine being required?

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                      Maybe there is some quid pro quo from SANZAAR to come as the SA/NZ game clashes with a possible AFL Grand Final.

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                        WA can get fucked. Just can it and play NPC.

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                        • nzzpN nzzp

                          @tim said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                          @nzzp And now no dollars. Perhaps the basline dollars were too much to risk? Very dumb management. Any change would have to involve another two weeks in quarantine, so any fall back position was going to be fucked anyway.

                          smart risk management would have been to head out to WA as soon as Auckland got played. Not ideal for players, but best for the championship. I mean, how else do you mitigate the (small) risk of a sudden 2 week quarantine being required?

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                          @nzzp said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                          @tim said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                          @nzzp And now no dollars. Perhaps the basline dollars were too much to risk? Very dumb management. Any change would have to involve another two weeks in quarantine, so any fall back position was going to be fucked anyway.

                          smart risk management would have been to head out to WA as soon as Auckland got played. Not ideal for players, but best for the championship. I mean, how else do you mitigate the (small) risk of a sudden 2 week quarantine being required?

                          Easy to say in hindsight. But we'd been clean for months

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                            No guarantee that SA and Arg make to WA either, which is independent of what is happening in NZ.

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                            • canefanC canefan

                              @nzzp said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                              @tim said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                              @nzzp And now no dollars. Perhaps the basline dollars were too much to risk? Very dumb management. Any change would have to involve another two weeks in quarantine, so any fall back position was going to be fucked anyway.

                              smart risk management would have been to head out to WA as soon as Auckland got played. Not ideal for players, but best for the championship. I mean, how else do you mitigate the (small) risk of a sudden 2 week quarantine being required?

                              Easy to say in hindsight. But we'd been clean for months

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                              @canefan said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                              @nzzp said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                              @tim said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                              @nzzp And now no dollars. Perhaps the basline dollars were too much to risk? Very dumb management. Any change would have to involve another two weeks in quarantine, so any fall back position was going to be fucked anyway.

                              smart risk management would have been to head out to WA as soon as Auckland got played. Not ideal for players, but best for the championship. I mean, how else do you mitigate the (small) risk of a sudden 2 week quarantine being required?

                              Easy to say in hindsight. But we'd been clean for months

                              We had - but Delta was floating about. Risk registers will ahve this - but it's probably a risk that gets tolerated. Whether that's a smart idea or not is another question- but it was a risk you could mitigate by travelling early.

                              It isn't easy, but should have been on the radar

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                                Maybe there is some quid pro quo from SANZAAR to come as the SA/NZ game clashes with a possible AFL Grand Final.

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                                @rotated said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                Maybe there is some quid pro quo from SANZAAR to come as the SA/NZ game clashes with a possible AFL Grand Final.

                                How could this be quid pro quo?

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                                • canefanC canefan

                                  @nzzp said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                  @tim said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                  @nzzp And now no dollars. Perhaps the basline dollars were too much to risk? Very dumb management. Any change would have to involve another two weeks in quarantine, so any fall back position was going to be fucked anyway.

                                  smart risk management would have been to head out to WA as soon as Auckland got played. Not ideal for players, but best for the championship. I mean, how else do you mitigate the (small) risk of a sudden 2 week quarantine being required?

                                  Easy to say in hindsight. But we'd been clean for months

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                                  @canefan said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                  @nzzp said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                  @tim said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                  @nzzp And now no dollars. Perhaps the basline dollars were too much to risk? Very dumb management. Any change would have to involve another two weeks in quarantine, so any fall back position was going to be fucked anyway.

                                  smart risk management would have been to head out to WA as soon as Auckland got played. Not ideal for players, but best for the championship. I mean, how else do you mitigate the (small) risk of a sudden 2 week quarantine being required?

                                  Easy to say in hindsight. But we'd been clean for months

                                  Everyone in New Zealand knew it was just a matter of time.

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                                  • KiapK Kiap

                                    @rotated said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                    Maybe there is some quid pro quo from SANZAAR to come as the SA/NZ game clashes with a possible AFL Grand Final.

                                    How could this be quid pro quo?

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                                    @kiap said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                    @rotated said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                    Maybe there is some quid pro quo from SANZAAR to come as the SA/NZ game clashes with a possible AFL Grand Final.

                                    How could this be quid pro quo?

                                    Rejig the schedule to free up that date and things can proceed. Everyone happy.

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                                      @kiap said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                      @rotated said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                      Maybe there is some quid pro quo from SANZAAR to come as the SA/NZ game clashes with a possible AFL Grand Final.

                                      How could this be quid pro quo?

                                      Rejig the schedule to free up that date and things can proceed. Everyone happy.

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                                      @rotated said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                      Rejig the schedule to free up that date and things can proceed. Everyone happy.

                                      Fair enough, although I don't think RA had more than 1 agreed WA game to proceed with, that being bled 3.

                                      The others were being re-shopped around due to, obviously, aspects such as playing in NSW being less than optimal.

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                                        https://www.rugbypass.com/news/rugby-championship-set-for-shock-relocation-following-outbreak/

                                        Sources have confirmed to RugbyPass that Sanzaar are weighing up shifting the Rugby Championship to Europe for the remainder of the competition, following the Springboks’ match with Argentina this weekend.
                                        
                                        Four double-headers are tentatively being planned for Paris, London, Dublin and Cardiff.
                                        
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                                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                          https://www.rugbypass.com/news/rugby-championship-set-for-shock-relocation-following-outbreak/

                                          Sources have confirmed to RugbyPass that Sanzaar are weighing up shifting the Rugby Championship to Europe for the remainder of the competition, following the Springboks’ match with Argentina this weekend.
                                          
                                          Four double-headers are tentatively being planned for Paris, London, Dublin and Cardiff.
                                          
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                                          @kiwimurph SANZAR are overlooking the possibility of the Isle of Man as a potential competition hub I tell you.

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