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2021 Rugby Championship

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  • BovidaeB Bovidae

    Robinson's naivety was apparent as he could have just said that the ABs can't fly to Perth due to the change in WA's controlled border arrangements with NZ which requires 14 days of self-quarantine. Then if Rennie, Marinos and co whinge they should be asking questions of McGowan not NZR.

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    @bovidae said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

    Robinson's naivety was apparent as he could have just said that the ABs can't fly to Perth due to the change in WA's controlled border arrangements with NZ which requires 14 days of self-quarantine. Then if Rennie, Marinos and co whinge they should be asking questions of McGowan not NZR.

    That's not totally accurate I believe. They wouldn't have had to quarantine for two weeks as long as they arrived today, and they would have been allowed to train in their bubble.

    The main issue is that if the remaining RC games don't go ahead, then the ABs won't be able to return home after the Perth test as there are no MIQ rooms available until November. That's how I read it anyway.

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      @bovidae said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

      Robinson's naivety was apparent as he could have just said that the ABs can't fly to Perth due to the change in WA's controlled border arrangements with NZ which requires 14 days of self-quarantine. Then if Rennie, Marinos and co whinge they should be asking questions of McGowan not NZR.

      That's not totally accurate I believe. They wouldn't have had to quarantine for two weeks as long as they arrived today, and they would have been allowed to train in their bubble.

      The main issue is that if the remaining RC games don't go ahead, then the ABs won't be able to return home after the Perth test as there are no MIQ rooms available until November. That's how I read it anyway.

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      @akan004 Agree with that too. It is a complex situation and NZR have said they are looking out for the players first by not having to remain in Aust with no other games to be played before DC and the EOYT.

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      • BovidaeB Bovidae

        Robinson's naivety was apparent as he could have just said that the ABs can't fly to Perth due to the change in WA's controlled border arrangements with NZ which requires 14 days of self-quarantine. Then if Rennie, Marinos and co whinge they should be asking questions of McGowan not NZR.

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        @bovidae said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

        Robinson's naivety was apparent as he could have just said that the ABs can't fly to Perth due to the change in WA's controlled border arrangements with NZ which requires 14 days of self-quarantine. Then if Rennie, Marinos and co whinge they should be asking questions of McGowan not NZR.

        He has shown to be lacking in the necessary communication skills. It happened with the Silverlake deal too. A superior communicator could have explained what was going on quite simply

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        • A akan004

          @bovidae said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

          Robinson's naivety was apparent as he could have just said that the ABs can't fly to Perth due to the change in WA's controlled border arrangements with NZ which requires 14 days of self-quarantine. Then if Rennie, Marinos and co whinge they should be asking questions of McGowan not NZR.

          That's not totally accurate I believe. They wouldn't have had to quarantine for two weeks as long as they arrived today, and they would have been allowed to train in their bubble.

          The main issue is that if the remaining RC games don't go ahead, then the ABs won't be able to return home after the Perth test as there are no MIQ rooms available until November. That's how I read it anyway.

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          @akan004 said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

          @bovidae said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

          Robinson's naivety was apparent as he could have just said that the ABs can't fly to Perth due to the change in WA's controlled border arrangements with NZ which requires 14 days of self-quarantine. Then if Rennie, Marinos and co whinge they should be asking questions of McGowan not NZR.

          That's not totally accurate I believe. They wouldn't have had to quarantine for two weeks as long as they arrived today, and they would have been allowed to train in their bubble.

          The main issue is that if the remaining RC games don't go ahead, then the ABs won't be able to return home after the Perth test as there are no MIQ rooms available until November. That's how I read it anyway.

          Yes agree with that,it would leave the AB’s potentially stuck in Australia with no more games.

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          • ChrisC Chris

            @akan004 said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

            @bovidae said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

            Robinson's naivety was apparent as he could have just said that the ABs can't fly to Perth due to the change in WA's controlled border arrangements with NZ which requires 14 days of self-quarantine. Then if Rennie, Marinos and co whinge they should be asking questions of McGowan not NZR.

            That's not totally accurate I believe. They wouldn't have had to quarantine for two weeks as long as they arrived today, and they would have been allowed to train in their bubble.

            The main issue is that if the remaining RC games don't go ahead, then the ABs won't be able to return home after the Perth test as there are no MIQ rooms available until November. That's how I read it anyway.

            Yes agree with that,it would leave the AB’s potentially stuck in Australia with no more games.

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            @chris said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

            @akan004 said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

            @bovidae said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

            Robinson's naivety was apparent as he could have just said that the ABs can't fly to Perth due to the change in WA's controlled border arrangements with NZ which requires 14 days of self-quarantine. Then if Rennie, Marinos and co whinge they should be asking questions of McGowan not NZR.

            That's not totally accurate I believe. They wouldn't have had to quarantine for two weeks as long as they arrived today, and they would have been allowed to train in their bubble.

            The main issue is that if the remaining RC games don't go ahead, then the ABs won't be able to return home after the Perth test as there are no MIQ rooms available until November. That's how I read it anyway.

            Yes agree with that,it would leave the AB’s potentially stuck in Australia with no more games.

            Surely Robinson could have explained all this?

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            • canefanC canefan

              @chris said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

              @akan004 said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

              @bovidae said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

              Robinson's naivety was apparent as he could have just said that the ABs can't fly to Perth due to the change in WA's controlled border arrangements with NZ which requires 14 days of self-quarantine. Then if Rennie, Marinos and co whinge they should be asking questions of McGowan not NZR.

              That's not totally accurate I believe. They wouldn't have had to quarantine for two weeks as long as they arrived today, and they would have been allowed to train in their bubble.

              The main issue is that if the remaining RC games don't go ahead, then the ABs won't be able to return home after the Perth test as there are no MIQ rooms available until November. That's how I read it anyway.

              Yes agree with that,it would leave the AB’s potentially stuck in Australia with no more games.

              Surely Robinson could have explained all this?

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              @canefan maybe his cell went flat?

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              • canefanC canefan

                @chris said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                @akan004 said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                @bovidae said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                Robinson's naivety was apparent as he could have just said that the ABs can't fly to Perth due to the change in WA's controlled border arrangements with NZ which requires 14 days of self-quarantine. Then if Rennie, Marinos and co whinge they should be asking questions of McGowan not NZR.

                That's not totally accurate I believe. They wouldn't have had to quarantine for two weeks as long as they arrived today, and they would have been allowed to train in their bubble.

                The main issue is that if the remaining RC games don't go ahead, then the ABs won't be able to return home after the Perth test as there are no MIQ rooms available until November. That's how I read it anyway.

                Yes agree with that,it would leave the AB’s potentially stuck in Australia with no more games.

                Surely Robinson could have explained all this?

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                @canefan said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                @chris said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                @akan004 said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                @bovidae said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                Robinson's naivety was apparent as he could have just said that the ABs can't fly to Perth due to the change in WA's controlled border arrangements with NZ which requires 14 days of self-quarantine. Then if Rennie, Marinos and co whinge they should be asking questions of McGowan not NZR.

                That's not totally accurate I believe. They wouldn't have had to quarantine for two weeks as long as they arrived today, and they would have been allowed to train in their bubble.

                The main issue is that if the remaining RC games don't go ahead, then the ABs won't be able to return home after the Perth test as there are no MIQ rooms available until November. That's how I read it anyway.

                Yes agree with that,it would leave the AB’s potentially stuck in Australia with no more games.

                Surely Robinson could have explained all this?

                Nah he's an arrogant cock and just says 'we're happy with our process and decisions' without explaining it, like they are not in anyway beholden to the public and stakeholders

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                  @canefan said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                  @chris said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                  @akan004 said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                  @bovidae said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                  Robinson's naivety was apparent as he could have just said that the ABs can't fly to Perth due to the change in WA's controlled border arrangements with NZ which requires 14 days of self-quarantine. Then if Rennie, Marinos and co whinge they should be asking questions of McGowan not NZR.

                  That's not totally accurate I believe. They wouldn't have had to quarantine for two weeks as long as they arrived today, and they would have been allowed to train in their bubble.

                  The main issue is that if the remaining RC games don't go ahead, then the ABs won't be able to return home after the Perth test as there are no MIQ rooms available until November. That's how I read it anyway.

                  Yes agree with that,it would leave the AB’s potentially stuck in Australia with no more games.

                  Surely Robinson could have explained all this?

                  Nah he's an arrogant cock and just says 'we're happy with our process and decisions' without explaining it, like they are not in anyway beholden to the public and stakeholders

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                  @machpants said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                  @canefan said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                  @chris said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                  @akan004 said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                  @bovidae said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                  Robinson's naivety was apparent as he could have just said that the ABs can't fly to Perth due to the change in WA's controlled border arrangements with NZ which requires 14 days of self-quarantine. Then if Rennie, Marinos and co whinge they should be asking questions of McGowan not NZR.

                  That's not totally accurate I believe. They wouldn't have had to quarantine for two weeks as long as they arrived today, and they would have been allowed to train in their bubble.

                  The main issue is that if the remaining RC games don't go ahead, then the ABs won't be able to return home after the Perth test as there are no MIQ rooms available until November. That's how I read it anyway.

                  Yes agree with that,it would leave the AB’s potentially stuck in Australia with no more games.

                  Surely Robinson could have explained all this?

                  Nah he's an arrogant cock and just says 'we're happy with our process and decisions' without explaining it, like they are not in anyway beholden to the public and stakeholders

                  That is certainly the way he comes off. Whether he is, or just a generally shy guy (as a player he seemed pretty quiet) that doesn't cut it in his job

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                  • rotatedR rotated

                    RTS over Koroibetee for me.

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                    @rotated said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                    RTS over Koroibetee for me.

                    That’s just your NZ bias talking

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                    • canefanC canefan

                      @chris said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                      @akan004 said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                      @bovidae said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                      Robinson's naivety was apparent as he could have just said that the ABs can't fly to Perth due to the change in WA's controlled border arrangements with NZ which requires 14 days of self-quarantine. Then if Rennie, Marinos and co whinge they should be asking questions of McGowan not NZR.

                      That's not totally accurate I believe. They wouldn't have had to quarantine for two weeks as long as they arrived today, and they would have been allowed to train in their bubble.

                      The main issue is that if the remaining RC games don't go ahead, then the ABs won't be able to return home after the Perth test as there are no MIQ rooms available until November. That's how I read it anyway.

                      Yes agree with that,it would leave the AB’s potentially stuck in Australia with no more games.

                      Surely Robinson could have explained all this?

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                      @canefan said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                      Surely Robinson could have explained all this?

                      He has to the players, just not to everyone else.

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                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                        @canefan said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                        Surely Robinson could have explained all this?

                        He has to the players, just not to everyone else.

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                        @bovidae said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                        @canefan said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                        Surely Robinson could have explained all this?

                        He has to the players, just not to everyone else.

                        That is my point. I'd think that if Tew was still there he'd have been all over it

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                        • canefanC canefan

                          @bovidae said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                          @canefan said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                          Surely Robinson could have explained all this?

                          He has to the players, just not to everyone else.

                          That is my point. I'd think that if Tew was still there he'd have been all over it

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                          @canefan Mitchell has been quiet as the chairman compared to Impey. Robinson has been thrown under the bus a little bit and failed miserably.

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                          • BovidaeB Bovidae

                            @canefan Mitchell has been quiet as the chairman compared to Impey. Robinson has been thrown under the bus a little bit and failed miserably.

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                            @bovidae said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                            @canefan Mitchell has been quiet as the chairman compared to Impey. Robinson has been thrown under the bus a little bit and failed miserably.

                            Plenty of blame to go around. Let's just implicate the whole team. One for not getting the SANZAR partners on the same page, and for failing to communicate what was going on to the media before things happened

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                            • canefanC canefan

                              @chris said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                              @akan004 said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                              @bovidae said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                              Robinson's naivety was apparent as he could have just said that the ABs can't fly to Perth due to the change in WA's controlled border arrangements with NZ which requires 14 days of self-quarantine. Then if Rennie, Marinos and co whinge they should be asking questions of McGowan not NZR.

                              That's not totally accurate I believe. They wouldn't have had to quarantine for two weeks as long as they arrived today, and they would have been allowed to train in their bubble.

                              The main issue is that if the remaining RC games don't go ahead, then the ABs won't be able to return home after the Perth test as there are no MIQ rooms available until November. That's how I read it anyway.

                              Yes agree with that,it would leave the AB’s potentially stuck in Australia with no more games.

                              Surely Robinson could have explained all this?

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                              @canefan said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                              @chris said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                              @akan004 said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                              @bovidae said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                              Robinson's naivety was apparent as he could have just said that the ABs can't fly to Perth due to the change in WA's controlled border arrangements with NZ which requires 14 days of self-quarantine. Then if Rennie, Marinos and co whinge they should be asking questions of McGowan not NZR.

                              That's not totally accurate I believe. They wouldn't have had to quarantine for two weeks as long as they arrived today, and they would have been allowed to train in their bubble.

                              The main issue is that if the remaining RC games don't go ahead, then the ABs won't be able to return home after the Perth test as there are no MIQ rooms available until November. That's how I read it anyway.

                              Yes agree with that,it would leave the AB’s potentially stuck in Australia with no more games.

                              Surely Robinson could have explained all this?

                              Of course he could have,Hes been shit with communication.The reason I can understand why the AB'S didn't go, in the end the right choice.But Robinson has handled it poorly.
                              Just another NZR episode of stuffing up.

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                              • ChrisC Chris

                                @canefan said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                @chris said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                @akan004 said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                @bovidae said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                Robinson's naivety was apparent as he could have just said that the ABs can't fly to Perth due to the change in WA's controlled border arrangements with NZ which requires 14 days of self-quarantine. Then if Rennie, Marinos and co whinge they should be asking questions of McGowan not NZR.

                                That's not totally accurate I believe. They wouldn't have had to quarantine for two weeks as long as they arrived today, and they would have been allowed to train in their bubble.

                                The main issue is that if the remaining RC games don't go ahead, then the ABs won't be able to return home after the Perth test as there are no MIQ rooms available until November. That's how I read it anyway.

                                Yes agree with that,it would leave the AB’s potentially stuck in Australia with no more games.

                                Surely Robinson could have explained all this?

                                Of course he could have,Hes been shit with communication.The reason I can understand why the AB'S didn't go, in the end the right choice.But Robinson has handled it poorly.
                                Just another NZR episode of stuffing up.

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                                @chris said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                @canefan said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                @chris said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                @akan004 said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                @bovidae said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                Robinson's naivety was apparent as he could have just said that the ABs can't fly to Perth due to the change in WA's controlled border arrangements with NZ which requires 14 days of self-quarantine. Then if Rennie, Marinos and co whinge they should be asking questions of McGowan not NZR.

                                That's not totally accurate I believe. They wouldn't have had to quarantine for two weeks as long as they arrived today, and they would have been allowed to train in their bubble.

                                The main issue is that if the remaining RC games don't go ahead, then the ABs won't be able to return home after the Perth test as there are no MIQ rooms available until November. That's how I read it anyway.

                                Yes agree with that,it would leave the AB’s potentially stuck in Australia with no more games.

                                Surely Robinson could have explained all this?

                                Of course he could have,Hes been shit with communication.The reason I can understand why the AB'S didn't go, in the end the right choice.But Robinson has handled it poorly.
                                Just another NZR episode of stuffing up.

                                I agree. Right decision, terrible execution

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                                  Loving the 'Robinson isnt a cnut because Australia suck at rugby' mental acrobatics going on.

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                                  • D Derpus

                                    Loving the 'Robinson isnt a cnut because Australia suck at rugby' mental acrobatics going on.

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                                    @derpus said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                    Loving the 'Robinson isnt a cnut because Australia suck at rugby' mental acrobatics going on.

                                    That's pretty selective reading mate. You are on fire right now, like Tim posting drunk fire

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                                    • D Derpus

                                      Loving the 'Robinson isnt a cnut because Australia suck at rugby' mental acrobatics going on.

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                                      @derpus said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                      Loving the 'Robinson isnt a cnut because Australia suck at rugby' mental acrobatics going on.

                                      I think most people on here have deep concerns about NZR governance right now. It's amateur hour... the latest bit (if true) is a complete clusterfuck.

                                      Kinda like the Old Blues Administration too - just so shortsighted and happy to go into conflict with people they need to work with

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                                        Regardless of the relative strength of the teams, or what anyone may think of Marinos, this is piss-poor from NZ's administration.

                                        I cannot believe that some sports organisations (and I include RA in that) haven't really moved past amateur level on so many things.

                                        I rate this fuckup more fuckuppedly than RWC2003 hosting rights negotiation.

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                                        • NTAN NTA

                                          Regardless of the relative strength of the teams, or what anyone may think of Marinos, this is piss-poor from NZ's administration.

                                          I cannot believe that some sports organisations (and I include RA in that) haven't really moved past amateur level on so many things.

                                          I rate this fuckup more fuckuppedly than RWC2003 hosting rights negotiation.

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                                          @nta said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                          I rate this fuckup more fuckuppedly than RWC2003 hosting rights negotiation.

                                          Nah, 2003 was wholly and completely self inflicted by the sound of it. This, on the other hand, at least had some external influence to it (Covid you bastard)

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