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  • gt12G gt12

    @act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:

    @yeahtheboys said in All Blacks 2021:

    @act-crusader better captain than a few others named. Horses for courses 🤷‍♀️

    Weber has started 1 test, I can’t see how he’s even in the discussion for AB captain.

    All the other names have decent AB experience on top of their provincial/franchise captaincy.

    Tuipoluto, Scott Barrett, Beauden Barrett, Taylor, Savea, Retallick, Coles, Perenara - all played 40+ tests.

    I’d give it to Beauden Barrett. Guaranteed to start, highly likely to play 80, and has captained the ABs previously.

    Luke Whitelock captained the All Blacks in his second game.

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    #1978

    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

    @act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:

    @yeahtheboys said in All Blacks 2021:

    @act-crusader better captain than a few others named. Horses for courses 🤷‍♀️

    Weber has started 1 test, I can’t see how he’s even in the discussion for AB captain.

    All the other names have decent AB experience on top of their provincial/franchise captaincy.

    Tuipoluto, Scott Barrett, Beauden Barrett, Taylor, Savea, Retallick, Coles, Perenara - all played 40+ tests.

    I’d give it to Beauden Barrett. Guaranteed to start, highly likely to play 80, and has captained the ABs previously.

    Luke Whitelock captained the All Blacks in his second game.

    Gee that is at least 3 Whitelocks to captain at Super or international level.

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    • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

      @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

      @act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:

      @yeahtheboys said in All Blacks 2021:

      @act-crusader better captain than a few others named. Horses for courses 🤷‍♀️

      Weber has started 1 test, I can’t see how he’s even in the discussion for AB captain.

      All the other names have decent AB experience on top of their provincial/franchise captaincy.

      Tuipoluto, Scott Barrett, Beauden Barrett, Taylor, Savea, Retallick, Coles, Perenara - all played 40+ tests.

      I’d give it to Beauden Barrett. Guaranteed to start, highly likely to play 80, and has captained the ABs previously.

      Luke Whitelock captained the All Blacks in his second game.

      Gee that is at least 3 Whitelocks to captain at Super or international level.

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      #1979

      @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

      @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

      @act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:

      @yeahtheboys said in All Blacks 2021:

      @act-crusader better captain than a few others named. Horses for courses 🤷‍♀️

      Weber has started 1 test, I can’t see how he’s even in the discussion for AB captain.

      All the other names have decent AB experience on top of their provincial/franchise captaincy.

      Tuipoluto, Scott Barrett, Beauden Barrett, Taylor, Savea, Retallick, Coles, Perenara - all played 40+ tests.

      I’d give it to Beauden Barrett. Guaranteed to start, highly likely to play 80, and has captained the ABs previously.

      Luke Whitelock captained the All Blacks in his second game.

      Gee that is at least 3 Whitelocks to captain at Super or international level.

      I guess when you’re in your 20s and you look like you’re in your 50s coaches just naturally assume you’re mature and captain material.

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      • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

        @act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:

        @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

        @act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:

        @yeahtheboys said in All Blacks 2021:

        @act-crusader better captain than a few others named. Horses for courses 🤷‍♀️

        Weber has started 1 test, I can’t see how he’s even in the discussion for AB captain.

        All the other names have decent AB experience on top of their provincial/franchise captaincy.

        Tuipoluto, Scott Barrett, Beauden Barrett, Taylor, Savea, Retallick, Coles, Perenara - all played 40+ tests.

        I’d give it to Beauden Barrett. Guaranteed to start, highly likely to play 80, and has captained the ABs previously.

        Luke Whitelock captained the All Blacks in his second game.

        But he has legendary status….

        but in all seriousness that was a game not a test match and an AB lineup that had AB stalwarts like Matt Duffie, Tim Perry, Dom Bird, Sopoaga, JTA!

        Sopoaga played well in Black!

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        wrote on last edited by
        #1980

        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

        @act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:

        @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

        @act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:

        @yeahtheboys said in All Blacks 2021:

        @act-crusader better captain than a few others named. Horses for courses 🤷‍♀️

        Weber has started 1 test, I can’t see how he’s even in the discussion for AB captain.

        All the other names have decent AB experience on top of their provincial/franchise captaincy.

        Tuipoluto, Scott Barrett, Beauden Barrett, Taylor, Savea, Retallick, Coles, Perenara - all played 40+ tests.

        I’d give it to Beauden Barrett. Guaranteed to start, highly likely to play 80, and has captained the ABs previously.

        Luke Whitelock captained the All Blacks in his second game.

        But he has legendary status….

        but in all seriousness that was a game not a test match and an AB lineup that had AB stalwarts like Matt Duffie, Tim Perry, Dom Bird, Sopoaga, JTA!

        Sopoaga played well in Black!

        Amazing that he only started 2 tests.

        A magnificent debut at Ellis Park in 2015 being one.

        The other being probably his worst game in black - at 10 at Suncorp in a dead rubber Bledisloe in 2017.

        Obviously a lot of focus on the Boks and Argie but i'm interested how ABs handle the Perth test. ABs often falter in these dead rubber Bledisloe tests.

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        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

          @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

          @act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:

          @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

          @act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:

          @yeahtheboys said in All Blacks 2021:

          @act-crusader better captain than a few others named. Horses for courses 🤷‍♀️

          Weber has started 1 test, I can’t see how he’s even in the discussion for AB captain.

          All the other names have decent AB experience on top of their provincial/franchise captaincy.

          Tuipoluto, Scott Barrett, Beauden Barrett, Taylor, Savea, Retallick, Coles, Perenara - all played 40+ tests.

          I’d give it to Beauden Barrett. Guaranteed to start, highly likely to play 80, and has captained the ABs previously.

          Luke Whitelock captained the All Blacks in his second game.

          But he has legendary status….

          but in all seriousness that was a game not a test match and an AB lineup that had AB stalwarts like Matt Duffie, Tim Perry, Dom Bird, Sopoaga, JTA!

          Sopoaga played well in Black!

          Amazing that he only started 2 tests.

          A magnificent debut at Ellis Park in 2015 being one.

          The other being probably his worst game in black - at 10 at Suncorp in a dead rubber Bledisloe in 2017.

          Obviously a lot of focus on the Boks and Argie but i'm interested how ABs handle the Perth test. ABs often falter in these dead rubber Bledisloe tests.

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          #1981

          @kiwimurph said in All Blacks 2021:

          @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

          @act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:

          @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

          @act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:

          @yeahtheboys said in All Blacks 2021:

          @act-crusader better captain than a few others named. Horses for courses 🤷‍♀️

          Weber has started 1 test, I can’t see how he’s even in the discussion for AB captain.

          All the other names have decent AB experience on top of their provincial/franchise captaincy.

          Tuipoluto, Scott Barrett, Beauden Barrett, Taylor, Savea, Retallick, Coles, Perenara - all played 40+ tests.

          I’d give it to Beauden Barrett. Guaranteed to start, highly likely to play 80, and has captained the ABs previously.

          Luke Whitelock captained the All Blacks in his second game.

          But he has legendary status….

          but in all seriousness that was a game not a test match and an AB lineup that had AB stalwarts like Matt Duffie, Tim Perry, Dom Bird, Sopoaga, JTA!

          Sopoaga played well in Black!

          Amazing that he only started 2 tests.

          A magnificent debut at Ellis Park in 2015 being one.

          The other being probably his worst game in black - at 10 at Suncorp in a dead rubber Bledisloe in 2017.

          Obviously a lot of focus on the Boks and Argie but i'm interested how ABs handle the Perth test. ABs often falter in these dead rubber Bledisloe tests.

          It's basically a no win for us, but could offer up false hope to the Aussies if they win

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          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

            @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

            @act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:

            @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

            @act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:

            @yeahtheboys said in All Blacks 2021:

            @act-crusader better captain than a few others named. Horses for courses 🤷‍♀️

            Weber has started 1 test, I can’t see how he’s even in the discussion for AB captain.

            All the other names have decent AB experience on top of their provincial/franchise captaincy.

            Tuipoluto, Scott Barrett, Beauden Barrett, Taylor, Savea, Retallick, Coles, Perenara - all played 40+ tests.

            I’d give it to Beauden Barrett. Guaranteed to start, highly likely to play 80, and has captained the ABs previously.

            Luke Whitelock captained the All Blacks in his second game.

            But he has legendary status….

            but in all seriousness that was a game not a test match and an AB lineup that had AB stalwarts like Matt Duffie, Tim Perry, Dom Bird, Sopoaga, JTA!

            Sopoaga played well in Black!

            Amazing that he only started 2 tests.

            A magnificent debut at Ellis Park in 2015 being one.

            The other being probably his worst game in black - at 10 at Suncorp in a dead rubber Bledisloe in 2017.

            Obviously a lot of focus on the Boks and Argie but i'm interested how ABs handle the Perth test. ABs often falter in these dead rubber Bledisloe tests.

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            #1982

            @kiwimurph well the last perth one sucked....

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            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

              @kiwimurph well the last perth one sucked....

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              #1983

              @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

              @kiwimurph well the last perth one sucked....

              did birth one of the very best threads ever on the Fern though.

              i was pretty pissed and was balls deep in the vitriol. Cracking fun all round.

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              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

                @kiwimurph well the last perth one sucked....

                did birth one of the very best threads ever on the Fern though.

                i was pretty pissed and was balls deep in the vitriol. Cracking fun all round.

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                #1984

                @mariner4life I was on a bus from Gold Coast Airport to our hotel, so missed most of the shit (game and here)

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                • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                  @yeahtheboys said in All Blacks 2021:

                  @act-crusader better captain than a few others named. Horses for courses 🤷‍♀️

                  Weber has started 1 test, I can’t see how he’s even in the discussion for AB captain.

                  All the other names have decent AB experience on top of their provincial/franchise captaincy.

                  Tuipoluto, Scott Barrett, Beauden Barrett, Taylor, Savea, Retallick, Coles, Perenara - all played 40+ tests.

                  I’d give it to Beauden Barrett. Guaranteed to start, highly likely to play 80, and has captained the ABs previously.

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                  #1985

                  @act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:

                  @yeahtheboys said in All Blacks 2021:

                  @act-crusader better captain than a few others named. Horses for courses 🤷‍♀️

                  Weber has started 1 test, I can’t see how he’s even in the discussion for AB captain.

                  All the other names have decent AB experience on top of their provincial/franchise captaincy.

                  Tuipoluto, Scott Barrett, Beauden Barrett, Taylor, Savea, Retallick, Coles, Perenara - all played 40+ tests.

                  I’d give it to Beauden Barrett. Guaranteed to start, highly likely to play 80, and has captained the ABs previously.

                  BB, Retallick and Coles have all been part of the leadership group for a while. Happy with any of them in the circumstances.

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                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

                    @kiwimurph well the last perth one sucked....

                    did birth one of the very best threads ever on the Fern though.

                    i was pretty pissed and was balls deep in the vitriol. Cracking fun all round.

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                    #1986

                    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

                    @kiwimurph well the last perth one sucked....

                    did birth one of the very best threads ever on the Fern though.

                    Surpassing the 2010 Hong Kong test thread which itself had reached new levels of outrage.

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                      #1987

                      I'd go with Shannon Frizell as Captain with his back-up being George Bridge.
                      Chance for redemption for Shannon and George is a safe pair of hands.

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                      • FrankF Frank

                        I'd go with Shannon Frizell as Captain with his back-up being George Bridge.
                        Chance for redemption for Shannon and George is a safe pair of hands.

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                        #1988

                        @frank said in All Blacks 2021:

                        I'd go with Shannon Frizell as Captain with his back-up being George Bridge.
                        Chance for redemption for Shannon and George is a safe pair of hands.

                        Trouble is, he runs with his feet...

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                            #1990

                            https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1430723333255954432

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                            • StargazerS Stargazer

                              https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1430723333255954432

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                              @stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:

                              https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1430723333255954432

                              So no Mounga,Smith,Whitelock and Coles

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                              • StargazerS Stargazer

                                https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1430723333255954432

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                                @stargazer Beaudy listed with the lippy midgets!

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                                  #1993

                                  And no Frizell.

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                                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                    @stargazer Beaudy listed with the lippy midgets!

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                                    @taniwharugby Because they're naming them "inside backs". :face_vomiting:

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                                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                      And no Frizell.

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                                      #1995

                                      @bovidae Don't think he'll be back in black any time soon; if ever.

                                      The first because of his off-field actions.
                                      The second because there are plenty of players who can overtake him.

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                                        #1996

                                        Media release: https://www.allblacks.com/news/all-blacks-squad-ready-for-mammoth-tour/

                                        The All Blacks initial travelling squad is as follows:

                                        Forwards:
                                        Hookers: Asafo Aumua, Samisoni Taukei’aho and Codie Taylor.
                                        Props: George Bower, Ethan de Groot, Nepo Laulala, Tyrel Lomax, Joe Moody, Angus Ta’avao, Karl Tu’inukuafe and Ofa Tuungafasi.
                                        Locks: Scott Barrett, Brodie Retallick, Patrick Tuipulotu and Tupou Vaa’i.
                                        Loose forwards: Ethan Blackadder, Akira Ioane, Luke Jacobson, Dalton Papalii, Ardie Savea and Hoskins Sotutu.

                                        Backs:
                                        Halfbacks: Finlay Christie, TJ Perenara and Brad Weber.
                                        First five–eighths: Beauden Barrett.
                                        Midfielders: Braydon Ennor, David Havili, Rieko Ioane, Anton Lienert-Brown and Quinn Tupaea.
                                        Outside backs: Jordie Barrett, George Bridge, Will Jordan, Damian McKenzie and Sevu Reece.

                                        Nothing more interesting in that media release other than that they leave at 6.30pm tonight.

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                                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                                          Media release: https://www.allblacks.com/news/all-blacks-squad-ready-for-mammoth-tour/

                                          The All Blacks initial travelling squad is as follows:

                                          Forwards:
                                          Hookers: Asafo Aumua, Samisoni Taukei’aho and Codie Taylor.
                                          Props: George Bower, Ethan de Groot, Nepo Laulala, Tyrel Lomax, Joe Moody, Angus Ta’avao, Karl Tu’inukuafe and Ofa Tuungafasi.
                                          Locks: Scott Barrett, Brodie Retallick, Patrick Tuipulotu and Tupou Vaa’i.
                                          Loose forwards: Ethan Blackadder, Akira Ioane, Luke Jacobson, Dalton Papalii, Ardie Savea and Hoskins Sotutu.

                                          Backs:
                                          Halfbacks: Finlay Christie, TJ Perenara and Brad Weber.
                                          First five–eighths: Beauden Barrett.
                                          Midfielders: Braydon Ennor, David Havili, Rieko Ioane, Anton Lienert-Brown and Quinn Tupaea.
                                          Outside backs: Jordie Barrett, George Bridge, Will Jordan, Damian McKenzie and Sevu Reece.

                                          Nothing more interesting in that media release other than that they leave at 6.30pm tonight.

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                                          @stargazer Would have thought there would be comment around all the props taken, the omission of Frizzell, and the lack of cover at 10. Presumably McKenzie or Havili?

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