All Blacks 2021
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:
dead set, if the Wallabies can't beat that team tehn they may as well pack it in for good.
Best hooker? not there
Best lock? Not there
Best player and also best 9? Not there
Best 10? Not there3 of those are our most influential players.
Is Retallick not travelling? I thought only Whitelock was remaining behind?
@hooroo said in All Blacks 2021:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:
dead set, if the Wallabies can't beat that team tehn they may as well pack it in for good.
Best hooker? not there
Best lock? Not there
Best player and also best 9? Not there
Best 10? Not there3 of those are our most influential players.
Is Retallick not travelling? I thought only Whitelock was remaining behind?
I'm very confused, I'm sure I saw Scott Barrett named?
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@act-crusader Yes noticed that he was playing 2nd five which he is not suited for. Filling a gap for the highlanders. Perhaps the AB environment would sort him out.
@broughie said in All Blacks 2021:
@act-crusader Yes noticed that he was playing 2nd five which he is not suited for. Filling a gap for the highlanders. Perhaps the AB environment would sort him out.
And played more 15 than 10 during SRA and SRTT this year.
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9 - TJ. Perenara
10 - B. Barrett
11 - R. Ioane
12 - D. Havili
13 - A. Lienert-Brown
14 - S. Reece
15 - J. Barrett21 - B. Weber
22 - D. McKenzie
23 - B. Ennor@act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:
9 - TJ. Perenara
10 - B. Barrett
11 - R. Ioane
12 - D. Havili
13 - A. Lienert-Brown
14 - S. Reece
15 - J. Barrett21 - B. Weber
22 - D. McKenzie
23 - B. EnnorJordan will be in the 23 IMO.
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@arhs said in All Blacks 2021:
I expected to see Harry Plummer added to the squad. Maybe good for Ofa T to be training over there if level 4 continues in Auckland.
As 10? Ehh... like him but not sure he's the next best 10 option. Hunt for me.
@booboo said in All Blacks 2021:
@arhs said in All Blacks 2021:
I expected to see Harry Plummer added to the squad. Maybe good for Ofa T to be training over there if level 4 continues in Auckland.
As 10? Ehh... like him but not sure he's the next best 10 option. Hunt for me.
I agree Hunt is next best as a starter but thought they might break in someone slowly with a longer term view. I think Plummer has improved a lot this year. Should be playing 10 all the time I feel.
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Looking forward to seeing how Beauden goes at 10. It's a good opportunity for him to put some pressure on Mo'unga and also show if he still has it.
@dice said in All Blacks 2021:
Looking forward to seeing how Beauden goes at 10. It's a good opportunity for him to put some pressure on Mo'unga and also show if he still has it.
It's a shit opportunity. Best lock and best halfback missing in a dead rubber. We also use these games to give too many fringe players a go.
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@booboo said in All Blacks 2021:
@arhs said in All Blacks 2021:
I expected to see Harry Plummer added to the squad. Maybe good for Ofa T to be training over there if level 4 continues in Auckland.
As 10? Ehh... like him but not sure he's the next best 10 option. Hunt for me.
I agree Hunt is next best as a starter but thought they might break in someone slowly with a longer term view. I think Plummer has improved a lot this year. Should be playing 10 all the time I feel.
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You gotta love the people that decry the current playing squad as vastly inferior to years gone past but have obviously just memory blocked that era where Weepu, Cowan and Ellis were the best halfbacks in the country.
@frye said in All Blacks 2021:
You gotta love the people that decry the current playing squad as vastly inferior to years gone past but have obviously just memory blocked that era where Weepu, Cowan and Ellis were the best halfbacks in the country.
What about all the other positions? Weepu was pretty decent, his fitness probably held him back from being better. But the rest of the 2015 team from 1 to 15, almost man for man was better than this team. No slight on the 2021 edition, we just had a once in a lifetime generational squad
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@frye said in All Blacks 2021:
You gotta love the people that decry the current playing squad as vastly inferior to years gone past but have obviously just memory blocked that era where Weepu, Cowan and Ellis were the best halfbacks in the country.
What about all the other positions? Weepu was pretty decent, his fitness probably held him back from being better. But the rest of the 2015 team from 1 to 15, almost man for man was better than this team. No slight on the 2021 edition, we just had a once in a lifetime generational squad
@canefan said in All Blacks 2021:
@frye said in All Blacks 2021:
You gotta love the people that decry the current playing squad as vastly inferior to years gone past but have obviously just memory blocked that era where Weepu, Cowan and Ellis were the best halfbacks in the country.
What about all the other positions? Weepu was pretty decent, his fitness probably held him back from being better. But the rest of the 2015 team from 1 to 15, almost man for man was better than this team. No slight on the 2021 edition, we just had a once in a lifetime generational squad
I'm actually quite surprised how many of that 2015 squad are still in the 2021 squad: Coles, Taylor, Retallick, Whitelock, Cane, Smith, Perenara and Beauden Barrett. Oh, and Moody, who was added later.
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@dice said in All Blacks 2021:
Looking forward to seeing how Beauden goes at 10. It's a good opportunity for him to put some pressure on Mo'unga and also show if he still has it.
It's a shit opportunity. Best lock and best halfback missing in a dead rubber. We also use these games to give too many fringe players a go.
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:
@dice said in All Blacks 2021:
Looking forward to seeing how Beauden goes at 10. It's a good opportunity for him to put some pressure on Mo'unga and also show if he still has it.
It's a shit opportunity. Best lock and best halfback missing in a dead rubber. We also use these games to give too many fringe players a go.
Except he had got at least three games to show it. The puma games aren't dead rubbers.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:
@dice said in All Blacks 2021:
Looking forward to seeing how Beauden goes at 10. It's a good opportunity for him to put some pressure on Mo'unga and also show if he still has it.
It's a shit opportunity. Best lock and best halfback missing in a dead rubber. We also use these games to give too many fringe players a go.
Except he had got at least three games to show it. The puma games aren't dead rubbers.
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@machpants absolutely. We are only one match into the Championship. Next match v Aussie is critical too. Or am I mistaken?
@arhs Nope, you're right. I've seen some massive mistakes in some of the media, too, who've obviously lost track of where we are in the competition. I can excuse the rugby public no longer knowing where we're at, but so-called rugbywriters should know that we've (only) played one RC game. I've seen this next test described as the first RC game, or just Bledisloe 3 (which strictly speaking isn't correct either, although it is the third Bledisloe game).
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@arhs Nope, you're right. I've seen some massive mistakes in some of the media, too, who've obviously lost track of where we are in the competition. I can excuse the rugby public no longer knowing where we're at, but so-called rugbywriters should know that we've (only) played one RC game. I've seen this next test described as the first RC game, or just Bledisloe 3 (which strictly speaking isn't correct either, although it is the third Bledisloe game).
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@mariner4life Note the word "should". I see it as a job requirement that is often not met.
@stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:
@mariner4life Note the word "should". I see it as a job requirement that is often not met.
i gave up on that expectation long ago
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Some good info here on the constraints caused by various quarantines both away and on return. Basically ABs only have X MIQ spots booked to come back to so injuries may not be able to be replaced and injured players may have to hang around as food bills.
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Looking forward to seeing how Beauden goes at 10. It's a good opportunity for him to put some pressure on Mo'unga and also show if he still has it.
@dice said in All Blacks 2021:
Looking forward to seeing how Beauden goes at 10. It's a good opportunity for him to put some pressure on Mo'unga and also show if he still has it.
Yep will be interesting to see how he and TJP go, neither has really had much rugby lately, so is good to see how they go , just so we got reserves etc up to speed.
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@arhs Nope, you're right. I've seen some massive mistakes in some of the media, too, who've obviously lost track of where we are in the competition. I can excuse the rugby public no longer knowing where we're at, but so-called rugbywriters should know that we've (only) played one RC game. I've seen this next test described as the first RC game, or just Bledisloe 3 (which strictly speaking isn't correct either, although it is the third Bledisloe game).
@stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:
@arhs Nope, you're right. I've seen some massive mistakes in some of the media, too, who've obviously lost track of where we are in the competition. I can excuse the rugby public no longer knowing where we're at, but so-called rugbywriters should know that we've (only) played one RC game. I've seen this next test described as the first RC game, or just Bledisloe 3 (which strictly speaking isn't correct either, although it is the third Bledisloe game).
Mate, take my word for it, I don't take the newspapers word as gospel for much without checking on a few scources. I think not only them but any real hardcore rugby fan would or should know how many RC games have been played. It a shame that rugby writers seem to be so blase' on things like that because casual viewers can get bloody confused.
