Stadium of Canterbury
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@kiwiwomble What has happened to The Den as I thought it had the ability to hold slightly over 20,000? Maybe the visitors end has been closed to prevent the inevitable trouble it's occupation will bring.
@higgins haven’t compiled the list myself, just cut and paste it from a very quick google
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I remember 1993 Bledisloe in Dunedin. They added extra capacity. 39,000 in a city of about 105,000 at the time.
Let alone seeing 1970s Okara Park full with 30k etc, or say 1983 Rotorua for the Lions match with 30k - each in a town of about 40k at the time.
It was very cheap to maintain a ground that is 85% grass banks. Just a bit of gas money for the tractor mower.
@rapido said in Stadium of Canterbury:
I remember 1993 Bledisloe in Dunedin. They added extra capacity. 39,000 in a city of about 105,000 at the time.
Let alone seeing 1970s Okara Park full with 30k etc, or say 1983 Rotorua for the Lions match with 30k - each in a town of about 40k at the time.
It was very cheap to maintain a ground that is 85% grass banks. Just a bit of gas money for the tractor mower.
That was the first ever million dollar gate in NZ. The ORFU set up the tent village at Bathgate Park for pre and post match festivities for profit and also to take pressure off Dunedin's bars. Massive attendance from visiting fans domestically and internationally.
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@chris said in Stadium of Canterbury:
[link text](link url)https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/126044306/christchurch-to-get-30000seat-stadium-after-council-backtrack
About time you useless fucks on the council,
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This is the annoying stuff, not only should the funding be more secure before deciding what to build, i know plenty of people from the surrounding districts that signed the petition, hell actively campaigned on the socials for others to do so
pretty unfair to the actual residents of chch
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This is the annoying stuff, not only should the funding be more secure before deciding what to build, i know plenty of people from the surrounding districts that signed the petition, hell actively campaigned on the socials for others to do so
pretty unfair to the actual residents of chch
@kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:
This is the annoying stuff, not only should the funding be more secure before deciding what to build, i know plenty of people from the surrounding districts that signed the petition, hell actively campaigned on the socials for others to do so
pretty unfair to the actual residents of chch
If you don't want to contribute don't attend matches at the stadium,Very annoying article it is a regional stadium not a Chch stadium,This attitude really pisses me off.
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@kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:
This is the annoying stuff, not only should the funding be more secure before deciding what to build, i know plenty of people from the surrounding districts that signed the petition, hell actively campaigned on the socials for others to do so
pretty unfair to the actual residents of chch
If you don't want to contribute don't attend matches at the stadium,Very annoying article it is a regional stadium not a Chch stadium,This attitude really pisses me off.
@chris said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:
This is the annoying stuff, not only should the funding be more secure before deciding what to build, i know plenty of people from the surrounding districts that signed the petition, hell actively campaigned on the socials for others to do so
pretty unfair to the actual residents of chch
If you don't want to contribute don't attend matches at the stadium,Very annoying article it is a regional stadium not a Chch stadium,This attitude really pisses me off.
This has been a great demonstration of how broken local councils can get.
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@kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:
This is the annoying stuff, not only should the funding be more secure before deciding what to build, i know plenty of people from the surrounding districts that signed the petition, hell actively campaigned on the socials for others to do so
pretty unfair to the actual residents of chch
If you don't want to contribute don't attend matches at the stadium,Very annoying article it is a regional stadium not a Chch stadium,This attitude really pisses me off.
@chris said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:
This is the annoying stuff, not only should the funding be more secure before deciding what to build, i know plenty of people from the surrounding districts that signed the petition, hell actively campaigned on the socials for others to do so
pretty unfair to the actual residents of chch
If you don't want to contribute don't attend matches at the stadium,Very annoying article it is a regional stadium not a Chch stadium,This attitude really pisses me off.
Don't worry, I'm a Selwyn rates payer and I'll let them know that we should contribute. I'd like that far more than a new fucking park in Rolleston ffs.
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@chris said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:
This is the annoying stuff, not only should the funding be more secure before deciding what to build, i know plenty of people from the surrounding districts that signed the petition, hell actively campaigned on the socials for others to do so
pretty unfair to the actual residents of chch
If you don't want to contribute don't attend matches at the stadium,Very annoying article it is a regional stadium not a Chch stadium,This attitude really pisses me off.
This has been a great demonstration of how broken local councils can get.
@kirwan said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@chris said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:
This is the annoying stuff, not only should the funding be more secure before deciding what to build, i know plenty of people from the surrounding districts that signed the petition, hell actively campaigned on the socials for others to do so
pretty unfair to the actual residents of chch
If you don't want to contribute don't attend matches at the stadium,Very annoying article it is a regional stadium not a Chch stadium,This attitude really pisses me off.
This has been a great demonstration of how broken local councils can get.
Imagine being that shit at politics, local council was your ceiling.
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@chris said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:
This is the annoying stuff, not only should the funding be more secure before deciding what to build, i know plenty of people from the surrounding districts that signed the petition, hell actively campaigned on the socials for others to do so
pretty unfair to the actual residents of chch
If you don't want to contribute don't attend matches at the stadium,Very annoying article it is a regional stadium not a Chch stadium,This attitude really pisses me off.
Don't worry, I'm a Selwyn rates payer and I'll let them know that we should contribute. I'd like that far more than a new fucking park in Rolleston ffs.
@gt12 said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@chris said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:
This is the annoying stuff, not only should the funding be more secure before deciding what to build, i know plenty of people from the surrounding districts that signed the petition, hell actively campaigned on the socials for others to do so
pretty unfair to the actual residents of chch
If you don't want to contribute don't attend matches at the stadium,Very annoying article it is a regional stadium not a Chch stadium,This attitude really pisses me off.
Don't worry, I'm a Selwyn rates payer and I'll let them know that we should contribute. I'd like that far more than a new fucking park in Rolleston ffs.
100 per cent
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@chris said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:
This is the annoying stuff, not only should the funding be more secure before deciding what to build, i know plenty of people from the surrounding districts that signed the petition, hell actively campaigned on the socials for others to do so
pretty unfair to the actual residents of chch
If you don't want to contribute don't attend matches at the stadium,Very annoying article it is a regional stadium not a Chch stadium,This attitude really pisses me off.
This has been a great demonstration of how broken local councils can get.
@kirwan said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@chris said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:
This is the annoying stuff, not only should the funding be more secure before deciding what to build, i know plenty of people from the surrounding districts that signed the petition, hell actively campaigned on the socials for others to do so
pretty unfair to the actual residents of chch
If you don't want to contribute don't attend matches at the stadium,Very annoying article it is a regional stadium not a Chch stadium,This attitude really pisses me off.
This has been a great demonstration of how broken local councils can get.
I am afraid you are correct,
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still discussing it after a decision have been made about size etc is pretty fucked up
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@kiwiwomble does anyone get the feeling the council simply doesn't want to build it?
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@kiwiwomble does anyone get the feeling the council simply doesn't want to build it?
@antipodean i think what i fearer would happen is happening, too much effort to try and get the perfect stadium, which has delayed things so much that the cost is far exceeding the money they received for the old one so more investment needed form council etc which makes it even more likely to become a white elephant
Probably could have had a 25-30k stadium without a roof several years ago
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So, take this with agrain of salt as it's third-hand information, but I had coffee with a chap recently who is involved in a side hustle with one of the top dog Aussies here to manage this project.
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Apparently every month the project is static - like now, and as it appears to have been for 3-4 months since closing off the roading in the area - it costs $1m. And this time next year if the same thing is happening, it'll be $2m per month.
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The project team has been pushing the CCC hard to get groundworks underway. Theory being, no matter what happens, the footprint isn't going to grow but costs are rising. I can vouch for that from my industry involvement: steel has gone up approx 50% this year and will go up another 20% or so by the end of Q1 next year. And there will be a fuck load of steel in this job. But the CCC continues to sit on it's hands.
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This chap has said the CCC is the slowest, most beuracratic and inefficient governmental body they've dealt with anywhere in the world. Surprise surprise!
So take it from all this that the budget will shrink or the CCC will need to kick over a few more stones to get back to the $485m required to build this thing. It's impossible not to see some further carnage arising around this be it an uproar over more monmey being required or an uproar over a further attempted shrinking of the project. The only other alternative is to quietly further down-spec the stadium.
This continues to be a catastrophic fuck up from the CCC which can only get worse.
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