Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth)
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I thought weber was fine, he wasn't smith but no one is, and thats something thats needs to be kept in mind, calling for the ball from 30m out and expecting it on your chest at pace on the run might just be 5-10m too far for him, as it fro most people
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Dishing out red cards for accidental contacts like these might just incentivize more dangerous play from the opposing player when contesting for the ball. If Koroibete hadn't had tackled Barrett in the air, he wouldnot have gotten facekicked. The laws are just confusing now.
@tordah said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):
Dishing out red cards for accidental contacts like these might just incentivize more dangerous play from the opposing player when contesting for the ball. If Koroibete hadn't had tackled Barrett in the air, he wouldnot have gotten facekicked. The laws are just confusing now.
So Koroibete run a into Jordie's boot.
A little later there was direct contact to the head with force between BBBR's shoulder and Hoopah!'s head, and no card ...
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@shark said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):
@machpants said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):
@shark said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):
@machpants said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):
Good point by Ozzie journo
If there is one area of concern for the All Blacks arising from the match – apart from Beauden Barrett’s abominable place kicking – it is this. They were caught a few times, too slow to re-form close to the ruck, and while Foster acknowledged the strength of the Wallabies in targeting this area, and some potential mitigation around positional and personnel disruption, he duly recognised that this is an area where the All Blacks need to improve sharply.
That presents a conundrum for Akira Ioane, who impressed again in the close channels during the first half. That’s exactly where All Black fans over the years have liked to see their number six; with his sleeves rolled up and his shoulders smacking hard into the opposition.
Yet it was out wide where Ioane tore the game apart
Akira and Ardie mean only one close in 'expert', when we really need two. If our hookers were like Marx, we'd be fine, but they are wide boys too.
This is the point I made re Ioane. Impressive but let's see if he can grunt it up against SA.
He might not get called on to do it, ABs have a loose forward and a hooker wide. Seems like Akira is the loose forward to go wide, might change Vs SA tho
I'm trying to think of times when we've beaten SA using a wide ranging 6.....
We've beaten them with a wide ranging 8 (in Read).
@kiwimurph said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):
@shark said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):
@machpants said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):
@shark said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):
@machpants said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):
Good point by Ozzie journo
If there is one area of concern for the All Blacks arising from the match – apart from Beauden Barrett’s abominable place kicking – it is this. They were caught a few times, too slow to re-form close to the ruck, and while Foster acknowledged the strength of the Wallabies in targeting this area, and some potential mitigation around positional and personnel disruption, he duly recognised that this is an area where the All Blacks need to improve sharply.
That presents a conundrum for Akira Ioane, who impressed again in the close channels during the first half. That’s exactly where All Black fans over the years have liked to see their number six; with his sleeves rolled up and his shoulders smacking hard into the opposition.
Yet it was out wide where Ioane tore the game apart
Akira and Ardie mean only one close in 'expert', when we really need two. If our hookers were like Marx, we'd be fine, but they are wide boys too.
This is the point I made re Ioane. Impressive but let's see if he can grunt it up against SA.
He might not get called on to do it, ABs have a loose forward and a hooker wide. Seems like Akira is the loose forward to go wide, might change Vs SA tho
I'm trying to think of times when we've beaten SA using a wide ranging 6.....
We've beaten them with a wide ranging 8 (in Read).
And a tight 6 in Kaino. If Ardie is playing that Read role then Ioane doesn't fit the model (although the game plan may differ to those glory days of Read/McCaw/Kaino). If Ioane is to play that wide role that's fine too but then either Savea plays it tigher or we play Jacobsen at 8 (Savea at 7) or swap Savea and Papali'i's roles.
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@voodoo said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):
Can't teach pace
Actually you can. In the US it is 76.2 centimetres (30 inches).
@nostrildamus said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):
@voodoo said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):
Can't teach pace
Actually you can. In the US it is 76.2 centimetres (30 inches).
Ploise exploin?
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The roles of the 6 and 8 can be interchangeable, as long as they know what they are meant to do within their structure. Remember that Read played the tighter role when Squire was used in the wider channels.
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Ok I officially love Akira he has x Factor real teamwork there he could have scored himself.
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This will be an unpopular opinion, but sober NZZP now thinks that a Red was the right call.
It was a reflex action by JB to losing balance, but ultimately if you raise your sprigs you open yourself up to the ref. No matter the intent, raised sprigs to the face are going to result in a Red every time. If JB doesn't lift his foot, then it's play on, but as soon as that happens I think Red is the right call. Reckless play, but that's life.
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This will be an unpopular opinion, but sober NZZP now thinks that a Red was the right call.
It was a reflex action by JB to losing balance, but ultimately if you raise your sprigs you open yourself up to the ref. No matter the intent, raised sprigs to the face are going to result in a Red every time. If JB doesn't lift his foot, then it's play on, but as soon as that happens I think Red is the right call. Reckless play, but that's life.
@nzzp said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):
This will be an unpopular opinion, but sober NZZP now thinks that a Red was the right call.
It was a reflex action by JB to losing balance, but ultimately if you raise your sprigs you open yourself up to the ref. No matter the intent, raised sprigs to the face are going to result in a Red every time. If JB doesn't lift his foot, then it's play on, but as soon as that happens I think Red is the right call. Reckless play, but that's life.
Some English twit on a page on FB thought the red was justification for Umaga and Mealamu “getting away with thuggery” in 2005.
I got some popcorn and was ready to read all the hateful comments but someone deleted it. Stink.
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@nzzp said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):
This will be an unpopular opinion, but sober NZZP now thinks that a Red was the right call.
It was a reflex action by JB to losing balance, but ultimately if you raise your sprigs you open yourself up to the ref. No matter the intent, raised sprigs to the face are going to result in a Red every time. If JB doesn't lift his foot, then it's play on, but as soon as that happens I think Red is the right call. Reckless play, but that's life.
Some English twit on a page on FB thought the red was justification for Umaga and Mealamu “getting away with thuggery” in 2005.
I got some popcorn and was ready to read all the hateful comments but someone deleted it. Stink.
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@chimoaus said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):
Interesting stat that the Wallabies had more carries and metres made?
@nostrildamus made my point.
Often the better team will have less time in possession because they'll score earlier in possession, and the lesser team will throw waves of attack against a better D.
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@nta said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):
Tackler must release. So....
So does the ball carrier?
@booboo said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):
@nta said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):
Tackler must release. So....
So does the ball carrier?
And both of them "immediately".
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@mn5 said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):
Some English twit on a page on FB thought the red was justification for Umaga and Mealamu “getting away with thuggery” in 2005.
The media have a lot to answer for.
@nzzp said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):
@mn5 said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):
Some English twit on a page on FB thought the red was justification for Umaga and Mealamu “getting away with thuggery” in 2005.
The media have a lot to answer for.
As bad as all the bullshit was in 2005 imagine how bad it would be in 2021 ? Umaga and Mealamu would cause servers to have meltdowns with all their tearful public apologies they were forced to make.
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This will be an unpopular opinion, but sober NZZP now thinks that a Red was the right call.
It was a reflex action by JB to losing balance, but ultimately if you raise your sprigs you open yourself up to the ref. No matter the intent, raised sprigs to the face are going to result in a Red every time. If JB doesn't lift his foot, then it's play on, but as soon as that happens I think Red is the right call. Reckless play, but that's life.
@nzzp and yet if someones head was on the ground and you kicked it, same result....
Guess the kicker (boom) will be the length of rest he gets.
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@nzzp and yet if someones head was on the ground and you kicked it, same result....
Guess the kicker (boom) will be the length of rest he gets.
@taniwharugby said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):
@nzzp and yet if someones head was on the ground and you kicked it, same result....
Guess the kicker (boom) will be the length of rest he gets.
I like what you did there
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No Whitelock, Smith, mounga. Savea and Taylor off early.
Still Aussie not even in it, even with 20mins at 14, and a very home ref performance.
@kirwan said in Wallabies vs All Blacks 3 (Perth):
No Whitelock, Smith, mounga. Savea and Taylor off early.
Still Aussie not even in it, even with 20mins at 14, and a very home ref performance.
Moody, Cane, Goodhue, Coles. Throw in Clarke (although I'd have him outside the XXIII), and a couple of rotations.
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Jordie deserves a bit of luck. Best fb last year and probably this also. Hasnt had a fair run I reckon.
Also if BB and JB are in the side, JB should take the goal kicks and touch finders
