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@rancid-schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@mn5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@mn5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@mn5 dont think anything is in the works, i think the only current starwars project unannounced but in the works is the taika waititi project and i dont know why but i cant see him taking it up
Yeah I have a strong feeling the Solo storyline will fall by the wayside with all the other activity that’s going on. Let’s not forget the Obi Wan series which I suspect will be all kinds of sensational, however like the Fett series it will in all likelihood take place entirely on Tattooine, that location has been done to death in my opinion. I’m fairly sure Obi Wan got there and never left til he met Han and Chewie in a New Hope.
i heard early rumours for several years Obi-wan went out looking for Jedi that had survived and tats would at least make up part of the series...fingers crossed, wonder if we'll see a live action version of the maul episode from rebels
Yeah his arc with Maul would be great if we saw it in live action form.
I thought he literally kept his head down and checked on Luke, nothing more than that. However judging by how Uncle Owen described him it’s not like he came round for dinner every week.
This is the problem with "filler". It starts to impact on the actual storyline. If Obi is travelling the Galaxy doing awesome shit, it makes less likely that he was able to live anonymously on Tatooine.
There is zero momentum for a new Solo film. I think it's only chance for success would be the inclusion of Jabba, Maul, Fett and Vader. Maybe even an Obi cameo. Again, the scope and potential are endless yet for some reason (other than the Mandalorian) we keep getting served uninspiring dross.
Definitely, so much of Rogue Ones appeal was DV even though he was in it only briefly.
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@rancid-schnitzel i think there is a little scope for some swashbuckling from obiwan, we've got 20 years to play with and as bad as it was he was living under a alias by the end, he'd just seen everything he knew fall down around him i think it would be pretty logical for him to spend some time trying to see if any of it had survived whilst he was still young enough, especially if he knew people like Ahsoka were somewhat removed from the jedi and so might not have been standing next to a stormtrooper when the order was given
I think old hermit trying to survive in the desert isn't enough on its own and would potentially be too similar to season 1 of Mando, very old west the ronin or masterless warrior
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@kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@rancid-schnitzel i think there is a little scope for some swashbuckling from obiwan, we've got 20 years to play with and as bad as it was he was living under a alias by the end, he'd just seen everything he knew fall down around him i think it would be pretty logical for him to spend some time trying to see if any of it had survived whilst he was still young enough, especially if he knew people like Ahsoka were somewhat removed from the jedi and so might not have been standing next to a stormtrooper when the order was given
I think old hermit trying to survive in the desert isn't enough on its own and would potentially be too similar to season 1 of Mando, very old west the ronin or masterless warrior
The Obi Wan we first saw ( in a New Hope ) seemed to do all he could to avoid combat and confrontations but ( due to Alec Guiness’s superb performance ) we get the feeling he’s definitely seen some action in his time. I hope this show bridges the gap and gives one of the more beloved characters in SW history what he deserves.
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My guess is the series will be the start of the exile, an adventure or two (even off planet) then will end with the realisation that Vader is still alive, perhaps another confrontation (to explain the "Obi Wan once thought as you did line"), then a broken Obi Wan wanders out to the sunset to live out his days on Tattoine a shell of his former self.
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@kirwan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
My guess is the series will be the start of the exile, an adventure or two (even off planet) then will end with the realisation that Vader is still alive, perhaps another confrontation (to explain the "Obi Wan once thought as you did line"), then a broken Obi Wan wanders out to the sunset to live out his days on Tattoine a shell of his former self.
That all sounds pretty accurate to me bar the off planet bit cos for whatever reason ( maybe I’m imagining it ) I thought he never left once he got there.
Then again, a smart cookie like Obi Wan would have known who Vader was pretty quickly depending on how effective the Empires propaganda/social media was.
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@kirwan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
My guess is the series will be the start of the exile, an adventure or two (even off planet) then will end with the realisation that Vader is still alive, perhaps another confrontation (to explain the "Obi Wan once thought as you did line"), then a broken Obi Wan wanders out to the sunset to live out his days on Tattoine a shell of his former self.
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i can imagine a whole episode with no dialogue, one big montage of a broken man trying to learn this new life in exile, showing how hard life is, maybe afraid to use the force incase someone senses it, also explaining how much he aged
@MN5 can you remember where you might have heard that, never leaving tattoine?
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am i imagining that hayden christensen has been confirmed as returning to the DV role? i cant imagine we'll see him on tattoine as surely he'd sense his child, surely if he went back he'd go to his family
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@mn5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@kirwan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
My guess is the series will be the start of the exile, an adventure or two (even off planet) then will end with the realisation that Vader is still alive, perhaps another confrontation (to explain the "Obi Wan once thought as you did line"), then a broken Obi Wan wanders out to the sunset to live out his days on Tattoine a shell of his former self.
That all sounds pretty accurate to me bar the off planet bit cos for whatever reason ( maybe I’m imagining it ) I thought he never left once he got there.
Then again, a smart cookie like Obi Wan would have known who Vader was pretty quickly depending on how effective the Empires propaganda/social media was.
I saw his response to that news in a SW Comic recently, it would be a great scene in the series. As far as Obi Wan is concerned he left him to die. So he'll have even more guilt with all the additional jedi that died thanks to Vader because he didn't finish him off.
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@kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
am i imagining that hayden christensen has been confirmed as returning to the DV role? i cant imagine we'll see him on tattoine as surely he'd sense his child, surely if he went back he'd go to his family
He's been cast, yes. I'm hoping we get a bacta tank scene and in that black pod thing getting his helmet put on.
And Rebels had that great scene where Vader's facemak got broken and you could see Anakin's sith eyes and hear his voice. That would be great to see in live action.
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@kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@kirwan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
My guess is the series will be the start of the exile, an adventure or two (even off planet) then will end with the realisation that Vader is still alive, perhaps another confrontation (to explain the "Obi Wan once thought as you did line"), then a broken Obi Wan wanders out to the sunset to live out his days on Tattoine a shell of his former self.
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i can imagine a whole episode with no dialogue, one big montage of a broken man trying to learn this new life in exile, showing how hard life is, maybe afraid to use the force incase someone senses it, also explaining how much he aged
@MN5 can you remember where you might have heard that, never leaving tattoine?
Ha, coulda been one of those fan theories but it does fit don’t you think ? When we met him in ANH he didn’t even have a speeder bike or other vehicle much less a spaceship so I don’t see him doing much travel. He needed a ride with Luke to Mos Easley !
I agree about him being afraid to use the force too, even those scumbags on tattooine might rat him out to the Empire if they saw him doing Jedi shit. Even given how crap Storm Troopers had become by the original trilogy enough of them storming his hut would be able to wipe him out.
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the last vader saw of obi he was a live and not with any troopers, so quite possible vader believes obi is alive and so we might get some vader trying to hunt him down, maybe obi has to fake his death to shake vader before properly going into exile
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@kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
am i imagining that hayden christensen has been confirmed as returning to the DV role? i cant imagine we'll see him on tattoine as surely he'd sense his child, surely if he went back he'd go to his family
As far as Anakin was concerned his mum was his family. But yeah he would sense Luke so no DV on Tat
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@kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
the last vader saw of obi he was a live and not with any troopers, so quite possible vader believes obi is alive and so we might get some vader trying to hunt him down, maybe obi has to fake his death to shake vader before properly going into exile
Moff Tarkin ( one of the most shrewd non force users in the series history ) also said that Obi Wan must have died years ago but I’m not sure if that was Tarkin trying to outsmart Vader ( unlikely ) or him underestimating Obi Wan ( who was still not even 60 years old by that stage )
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@mn5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@kirwan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
My guess is the series will be the start of the exile, an adventure or two (even off planet) then will end with the realisation that Vader is still alive, perhaps another confrontation (to explain the "Obi Wan once thought as you did line"), then a broken Obi Wan wanders out to the sunset to live out his days on Tattoine a shell of his former self.
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i can imagine a whole episode with no dialogue, one big montage of a broken man trying to learn this new life in exile, showing how hard life is, maybe afraid to use the force incase someone senses it, also explaining how much he aged
@MN5 can you remember where you might have heard that, never leaving tattoine?
Ha, coulda been one of those fan theories but it does fit don’t you think ? When we met him in ANH he didn’t even have a speeder bike or other vehicle much less a spaceship so I don’t see him doing much travel. He needed a ride with Luke to Mos Easley !
I agree about him being afraid to use the force too, even those scumbags on tattooine might rat him out to the Empire if they saw him doing Jedi shit. Even given how crap Storm Troopers had become by the original trilogy enough of them storming his hut would be able to wipe him out.
maybe ultimately, like for several years but my "desperate man hunts for any last thread of the world he let be destroyed" works for immediately after we saw him last
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@kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
the last vader saw of obi he was a live and not with any troopers, so quite possible vader believes obi is alive and so we might get some vader trying to hunt him down, maybe obi has to fake his death to shake vader before properly going into exile
No reason why they can't focus on a life before his exile as a hermit. Maybe he dropped the kid off and left for a while
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@canefan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
the last vader saw of obi he was a live and not with any troopers, so quite possible vader believes obi is alive and so we might get some vader trying to hunt him down, maybe obi has to fake his death to shake vader before properly going into exile
No reason why they can't focus on a life before his exile as a hermit. Maybe he dropped the kid off and left for a while
that what im thinking and what @Kirwan kind of said, we might get this series spread over the full 20 years, a few episodes out looking, maybe a run in with DV, fake death, back to tattoine and a few episodes carving out a life growing old before his time
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@mn5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
the last vader saw of obi he was a live and not with any troopers, so quite possible vader believes obi is alive and so we might get some vader trying to hunt him down, maybe obi has to fake his death to shake vader before properly going into exile
Moff Tarkin ( one of the most shrewd non force users in the series history ) also said that Obi Wan must have died years ago but I’m not sure if that was Tarkin trying to outsmart Vader ( unlikely ) or him underestimating Obi Wan ( who was still not even 60 years old by that stage )
that might just be him assuming seeing as so many of the jedi were caught in order 66 or in the years immediately after, if you havent heard trace of one of the more prominent jedi for years then you might assume they had been caught
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@mn5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@kirwan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
My guess is the series will be the start of the exile, an adventure or two (even off planet) then will end with the realisation that Vader is still alive, perhaps another confrontation (to explain the "Obi Wan once thought as you did line"), then a broken Obi Wan wanders out to the sunset to live out his days on Tattoine a shell of his former self.
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i can imagine a whole episode with no dialogue, one big montage of a broken man trying to learn this new life in exile, showing how hard life is, maybe afraid to use the force incase someone senses it, also explaining how much he aged
@MN5 can you remember where you might have heard that, never leaving tattoine?
Ha, coulda been one of those fan theories but it does fit don’t you think ? When we met him in ANH he didn’t even have a speeder bike or other vehicle much less a spaceship so I don’t see him doing much travel. He needed a ride with Luke to Mos Easley !
I agree about him being afraid to use the force too, even those scumbags on tattooine might rat him out to the Empire if they saw him doing Jedi shit. Even given how crap Storm Troopers had become by the original trilogy enough of them storming his hut would be able to wipe him out.
Don't forget that Obi Wan was also tracked down on Tatooine by Maul.