Aussie Pro Rugby
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Quade, McMahon. WTF is going on?
@antipodean said in Aussie Rugby:
Quade, McMahon. WTF is going on?
The unsurprising realisation that we have let our development systems die during the last 2 decades.
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Quade, McMahon. WTF is going on?
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@stargazer said in Aussie Rugby:
https://twitter.com/Reds_Rugby/status/1434984641455280128
Including:
https://twitter.com/espnscrum/status/1434994878396702723I am pleased for Thorn and for Queensland. He has an exceptional rugby pedigree and his efforts in coaching young men reveal the same determination, focus and strength he displayed on the field. He offers his time readily to club and junior rugby activities - clinics, addresses, presentations and such, yet amusingly the knowledgeable young rugby fans have the certain understanding that he is barely literate.
Your Quadie's momentary re-emergence as one of the Harmless Wallabies most hilarious comedy acts has revived the angry kiddie fans hatred for Brad Thorn - because Thorn dis-a-spekted the li'l fella and made every other coach also refuse to employ his silky bunny hop and pass-to-Row F skills.
Oh, and Brad has personally blocked his bid for Australian residency or citizenship or something.
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https://twitter.com/RugbyReg/status/1437371419914948610?s=20
Macqueen started in 1997 after Bledisloe, and gave it up in 2001 after Lions, before Bledisloe.
1998: 3-0
1999: 1-1
2000: 1-1
A 5-2 win ratio against the ABs is almost unimaginable.Rennie:
2020: 1-2 (1 draw)
2021: 0-3
Rennie with the 1-5 reversal. Last year could so easily have been 2-2 bar Hodge's kick. -
https://twitter.com/RugbyReg/status/1437371419914948610?s=20
Macqueen started in 1997 after Bledisloe, and gave it up in 2001 after Lions, before Bledisloe.
1998: 3-0
1999: 1-1
2000: 1-1
A 5-2 win ratio against the ABs is almost unimaginable.Rennie:
2020: 1-2 (1 draw)
2021: 0-3
Rennie with the 1-5 reversal. Last year could so easily have been 2-2 bar Hodge's kick.@nta anybody lamenting the current state of AB rugby should be forced to go back and look at 1998. look at who played. Look at how we lost some of those games. Just awful.
Playing against a couple of pretty handy outfits as well
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This is fantastic news for Australian rugby
It’s also a very very scary thought under Rennie’s guidance. -
This is fantastic news for Australian rugby
It’s also a very very scary thought under Rennie’s guidance.@steven-harris said in Aussie Rugby:
This is fantastic news for Australian rugby
It’s also a very very scary thought under Rennie’s guidance.Why do you say that (re: second point)? They've all been tried and found wanting anyway.
The only genuinely good thing would be more competitive SR teams.
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@steven-harris said in Aussie Rugby:
This is fantastic news for Australian rugby
It’s also a very very scary thought under Rennie’s guidance.Why do you say that (re: second point)? They've all been tried and found wanting anyway.
The only genuinely good thing would be more competitive SR teams.
@antipodean I think for the sake of rugby in this region we need to see a strong Australian team , they also bat above their station at RWC’s
Skelton and Arnold will give them world class size in the middle row but a whole lot of depth to their stocks but their ace in the pack in my opinion is Dave Rennie . -
@antipodean I think for the sake of rugby in this region we need to see a strong Australian team , they also bat above their station at RWC’s
Skelton and Arnold will give them world class size in the middle row but a whole lot of depth to their stocks but their ace in the pack in my opinion is Dave Rennie .@steven-harris said in Aussie Rugby:
@antipodean I think for the sake of rugby in this region we need to see a strong Australian team , they also bat above their station at RWC’s
Skelton and Arnold will give them world class size in the middle row but a whole lot of depth to their stocks but their ace in the pack in my opinion is Dave Rennie .I agree with your first point we need Australia to not suck. I think they've flattered to deceive at recent RWCs (well maybe not Japan).
European experience and capped players returning to play SR will certainly help, but I've said this before: I think Rennie's suffering from not having the Professor on staff.
tl;dr version: agree that more returning is good.
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@steven-harris said in Aussie Rugby:
@antipodean I think for the sake of rugby in this region we need to see a strong Australian team , they also bat above their station at RWC’s
Skelton and Arnold will give them world class size in the middle row but a whole lot of depth to their stocks but their ace in the pack in my opinion is Dave Rennie .I agree with your first point we need Australia to not suck. I think they've flattered to deceive at recent RWCs (well maybe not Japan).
European experience and capped players returning to play SR will certainly help, but I've said this before: I think Rennie's suffering from not having the Professor on staff.
tl;dr version: agree that more returning is good.
@antipodean when you consider the issues they have had off the field I suspect much that has flowed to on field ..and we could write a list .
I personally think they are a dark horse for the next RWC .
I don’t read to much into the strength of your super rugby teams as South Africa proved point at the last RWC but if you have 30 or so that can play test rugby and decent coach who can bring them together anything’s possible, plus don’t under estimate Scott Wisemantel who is Rennies attack coach , He has a very sharp mind and was Eddie Jones attack coach for both Japan and England when they beat the springboks in 2015 and the All Blacks in 2019 respectively.. -
@machpants maybe not right now , but in a RWC year circumstances change and given that he is already in France , I for one would’nt bet against it..
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Here we go again: the short term thinking for the national team, and nothing being announced about a development pathway for players and coaches.
Now, the success of the Wallabies is very important. It brings people to the game. A RWC win would be awesome.
But if we don't help build the lower levels, we will be back to where we started in a few years.
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Here we go again: the short term thinking for the national team, and nothing being announced about a development pathway for players and coaches.
Now, the success of the Wallabies is very important. It brings people to the game. A RWC win would be awesome.
But if we don't help build the lower levels, we will be back to where we started in a few years.
@nta that’s a fair point , but I also think it’s a 2 way sword , unlike NZ where Rugby is King , Australia has to battle with 3 other winter codes and having a solid shop window so that next group of young kids do have something to aspire to and seeing a winning international team is so important.
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@nta that’s a fair point , but I also think it’s a 2 way sword , unlike NZ where Rugby is King , Australia has to battle with 3 other winter codes and having a solid shop window so that next group of young kids do have something to aspire to and seeing a winning international team is so important.
@steven-harris said in Aussie Rugby:
@nta that’s a fair point , but I also think it’s a 2 way sword , unlike NZ where Rugby is King , Australia has to battle with 3 other winter codes and having a solid shop window so that next group of young kids do have something to aspire to and seeing a winning international team is so important.
To battle with other codes, Rugby would need to even be a capable opponent.
Let the private schools fund their own little piddling pool pathway. Where RA should spend any money is in Western Sydney, completely fucking ignoring SRU and making sure we can compete with league in the 14-19yo areas.
Sort that out and we'd be back on track in a decade.
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@antipodean when you consider the issues they have had off the field I suspect much that has flowed to on field ..and we could write a list .
I personally think they are a dark horse for the next RWC .
I don’t read to much into the strength of your super rugby teams as South Africa proved point at the last RWC but if you have 30 or so that can play test rugby and decent coach who can bring them together anything’s possible, plus don’t under estimate Scott Wisemantel who is Rennies attack coach , He has a very sharp mind and was Eddie Jones attack coach for both Japan and England when they beat the springboks in 2015 and the All Blacks in 2019 respectively..@steven-harris said in Aussie Rugby:
@antipodean when you consider the issues they have had off the field I suspect much that has flowed to on field ..and we could write a list .
I personally think they are a dark horse for the next RWC .
I don’t read to much into the strength of your super rugby teams as South Africa proved point at the last RWC but if you have 30 or so that can play test rugby and decent coach who can bring them together anything’s possible, plus don’t under estimate Scott Wisemantel who is Rennies attack coach , He has a very sharp mind and was Eddie Jones attack coach for both Japan and England when they beat the springboks in 2015 and the All Blacks in 2019 respectively..Is Scott on sabbatical at the moment?
I subscribe to the belief that RWC has a bit to do with luck. South Africa is a good example. 2007 they won by virtue of the All Blacks not progressing and an easy path. 2019 the easy path and a final against a team whose structure was developed to beat one team.
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@steven-harris said in Aussie Rugby:
@antipodean when you consider the issues they have had off the field I suspect much that has flowed to on field ..and we could write a list .
I personally think they are a dark horse for the next RWC .
I don’t read to much into the strength of your super rugby teams as South Africa proved point at the last RWC but if you have 30 or so that can play test rugby and decent coach who can bring them together anything’s possible, plus don’t under estimate Scott Wisemantel who is Rennies attack coach , He has a very sharp mind and was Eddie Jones attack coach for both Japan and England when they beat the springboks in 2015 and the All Blacks in 2019 respectively..Is Scott on sabbatical at the moment?
I subscribe to the belief that RWC has a bit to do with luck. South Africa is a good example. 2007 they won by virtue of the All Blacks not progressing and an easy path. 2019 the easy path and a final against a team whose structure was developed to beat one team.
@antipodean When you actually look at the record of the ABs since 2010 its kind of remarkable they didn't win 2019 and i fully expect them to win 2023 and beyond. It took four years of England prep peaking at the exact right time to knock them off.
No one comes close, consistently. Though in 20 years, once the player drain is in full swing, France and England might.
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@machpants Skelton has openly admitted to not missing Australia at all. He never got a real shot at the Wallabies, had some mental health issues here and i think he is loving life in Europe (not to mention succeeding in every team he plays in).
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This isn't the news you want after the Wallaby wins.
Rugby Australia has released a statement following the arrest of a senior executive on alleged child pornography charges.
According to the statement the board met and resolved to terminate the individual's employment effective immediately. There was no confirmation of what the charges were, nor was the executive named.
New Limited publications have stated that the man was arrested by federal police after a laptop and mobile phone allegedly containing videos of young children being sexually abused were seized during a raid.
He was charged with one count each of using a carriage service to solicit child abuse material, possessing or controlling child abuse material obtained or accessed using a carriage service, using a carriage service to access child abuse material, and causing child abuse material to be transmitted to self using a carriage service.
The 41-year-old Sydney man appeared in the Parramatta Local Court on Saturday where he was refused bail. He will next appear in the Central Local Court on 10th November.
Rugby Australia stated that it takes all matters relating to the behaviour of its employees very seriously.
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This isn't the news you want after the Wallaby wins.
Rugby Australia has released a statement following the arrest of a senior executive on alleged child pornography charges.
According to the statement the board met and resolved to terminate the individual's employment effective immediately. There was no confirmation of what the charges were, nor was the executive named.
New Limited publications have stated that the man was arrested by federal police after a laptop and mobile phone allegedly containing videos of young children being sexually abused were seized during a raid.
He was charged with one count each of using a carriage service to solicit child abuse material, possessing or controlling child abuse material obtained or accessed using a carriage service, using a carriage service to access child abuse material, and causing child abuse material to be transmitted to self using a carriage service.
The 41-year-old Sydney man appeared in the Parramatta Local Court on Saturday where he was refused bail. He will next appear in the Central Local Court on 10th November.
Rugby Australia stated that it takes all matters relating to the behaviour of its employees very seriously.
