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Magpies 2021

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  • S Steven Harris

    @stargazer How times have changed , i know both Mark & Josh very well, can recall a story from both of them in their first season as coaches when the maggpies were losing a home game and were down by 20 points at halftime
    they walking down the steps to address the team with many of the locals handing out plenty of advice reminding them that this was not a secondary schools team , and to go back to Auckland in colourful language .lol
    Really stocked for Mark , a really good story of a guy who won the Gallaher Shield in Auckland as a player with his club Waitemata , coached Waitemata with a degree of success and has gone on to bigger and better things .
    That game was against the Taniwha, Magpies came back from 20 points down and won, they just had to remind me of that.😂..cheeky buggers.
    Hope Josh hangs around.

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    @steven-harris said in Magpies 2021:

    @stargazer How times have changed , i know both Mark & Josh very well, can recall a story from both of them in their first season as coaches when the maggpies were losing a home game and were down by 20 points at halftime
    they walking down the steps to address the team with many of the locals handing out plenty of advice reminding them that this was not a secondary schools team , and to go back to Auckland in colourful language .lol
    Really stocked for Mark , a really good story of a guy who won the Gallaher Shield in Auckland as a player with his club Waitemata , coached Waitemata with a degree of success and has gone on to bigger and better things .
    That game was against the Taniwha, Magpies came back from 20 points down and won, they just had to remind me of that.😂..cheeky buggers.
    Hope Josh hangs around.

    Napier people, ah well, we have to put up with them. 😉

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      Stacey Ili has re-signed with the Rebels.

      https://melbournerebels.rugby/news/2021/09/14/rebels-reinforce-depth-for-super-rugby-pacific

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        Stacey Ili has re-signed with the Rebels.

        https://melbournerebels.rugby/news/2021/09/14/rebels-reinforce-depth-for-super-rugby-pacific

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        @stargazer Shit, that's a huge drop in standards he will be playing at, going from a decent team to one ranked at the Rebels level. Still it keeps him him fit enough for when the real rugby starts and pays a few bills too.

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        • StargazerS Stargazer

          Unfortunately, Ozich has indeed signed with the Force. The media release doesn't say for how long. Damn, it's great for him, but so disappointing for us.


          https://twitter.com/westernforce/status/1436542675813949441


          So what now? Josh Syms to take over and become head coach, next season?
          And who to come in? Is Tafai Ioasa good enough to make the step up from Hastings Boys'?

          I don't remember what Brendon Ratcliffe's stint as Magpies Head Coach was like ... if it was good, can we steal him from Napier Boys'?

          Who else is there, in Hawke's Bay or the rest of NZ?

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          @stargazer I think Ratcliffes record was pretty poor from memory.I know its probably a massive longshot but hawkes bay did try to get Joe Schmidt at one stage. Hes moving back to Nz but hes probably looking at a higher level than itm cup

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            @stargazer I think Ratcliffes record was pretty poor from memory.I know its probably a massive longshot but hawkes bay did try to get Joe Schmidt at one stage. Hes moving back to Nz but hes probably looking at a higher level than itm cup

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            @kiwimatrix Yeah, Schmidt would be great, but I can't see it happening.

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              I don’t want Schmidt. Only him if it’s a three way choice between him, the Hammettuer and Bitchell.

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                Ozich will finish up at the end of the NPC season, and although Lewis offered him the chance to keep his NPC gig as well as coach at the Force, Ozich chose to move the family over to Perth full-time.

                :disappointed_face:

                https://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/news/hawkes-bay-magpies-poised-for-battle-of-the-bays-ranfurly-shield-defence/BIQB2HRNIBQWIPSJ2OBDYZU4SM/

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                  Ozich said Auckland remaining in level 4 has impacted the team's ability to recruit another No 9 and that would be a "work-in-progress" over the next couple of weeks.

                  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/news/hawkes-bay-magpies-poised-for-battle-of-the-bays-ranfurly-shield-defence/BIQB2HRNIBQWIPSJ2OBDYZU4SM/

                  We have enough good but inexperienced, young halfbacks ourselves, so I assume they're after an older, more experienced halfback. Which experienced halfback in Auckland has no contract? Is Danny Tusitala available and in the country? Who else is there?

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                    Ozich said Auckland remaining in level 4 has impacted the team's ability to recruit another No 9 and that would be a "work-in-progress" over the next couple of weeks.

                    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/news/hawkes-bay-magpies-poised-for-battle-of-the-bays-ranfurly-shield-defence/BIQB2HRNIBQWIPSJ2OBDYZU4SM/

                    We have enough good but inexperienced, young halfbacks ourselves, so I assume they're after an older, more experienced halfback. Which experienced halfback in Auckland has no contract? Is Danny Tusitala available and in the country? Who else is there?

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                    @stargazer Auvasa Faleali'i?

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                      @stargazer Auvasa Faleali'i?

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                      @dice Can't say that name inspires me with much confidence.

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                        @stargazer Auvasa Faleali'i?

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                        @dice Auvasa Falealii is very good player , was outstanding for Samoa against the NZ Maori this year , highly experienced, would be a good stop gap option ..also Niko Costa who was halfback for this years Gallagher shield championship winner Eden ,very accurate goal kicker as well.

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                          Or they could just pick someone from Hawkes Bay club rugby. If the NPC is going to survive it needs to be a provincial competition not a slightly retarded version of franchise rugby

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                            Or they could just pick someone from Hawkes Bay club rugby. If the NPC is going to survive it needs to be a provincial competition not a slightly retarded version of franchise rugby

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                            @duluth We're down 3 halfbacks (Weber with the ABs, Fakatava out for the season, McLeod also broken - not sure for how long). So we need more than one halfback. So local youngsters are probably already in the frame, but we need some experience, too.

                            And, of course, it's an easy thing to say by someone from a big province with a huge player pool. We don't have that many players to pick from.

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                                Or they could just pick someone from Hawkes Bay club rugby. If the NPC is going to survive it needs to be a provincial competition not a slightly retarded version of franchise rugby

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                                @duluth said in Magpies 2021:

                                Or they could just pick someone from Hawkes Bay club rugby. If the NPC is going to survive it needs to be a provincial competition not a slightly retarded version of franchise rugby

                                I'd prefer they'd pick someone from the region too. I wonder how old the two Hastings Boys halves are? We've had schoolboy halfbacks before.

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                                  @duluth said in Magpies 2021:

                                  Or they could just pick someone from Hawkes Bay club rugby. If the NPC is going to survive it needs to be a provincial competition not a slightly retarded version of franchise rugby

                                  I'd prefer they'd pick someone from the region too. I wonder how old the two Hastings Boys halves are? We've had schoolboy halfbacks before.

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                                  @nepia You would have to assume the coaching know the capabilities of the local halfbacks and perhaps don't rate the rest of them. We have 3 decent local halfbacks, that is quite a few for a smaller province. We haven't got Unlimited depth.

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                                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                                    Ozich said Auckland remaining in level 4 has impacted the team's ability to recruit another No 9 and that would be a "work-in-progress" over the next couple of weeks.

                                    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/news/hawkes-bay-magpies-poised-for-battle-of-the-bays-ranfurly-shield-defence/BIQB2HRNIBQWIPSJ2OBDYZU4SM/

                                    We have enough good but inexperienced, young halfbacks ourselves, so I assume they're after an older, more experienced halfback. Which experienced halfback in Auckland has no contract? Is Danny Tusitala available and in the country? Who else is there?

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                                    @stargazer said in Magpies 2021:

                                    Ozich said Auckland remaining in level 4 has impacted the team's ability to recruit another No 9 and that would be a "work-in-progress" over the next couple of weeks.

                                    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/news/hawkes-bay-magpies-poised-for-battle-of-the-bays-ranfurly-shield-defence/BIQB2HRNIBQWIPSJ2OBDYZU4SM/

                                    We have enough good but inexperienced, young halfbacks ourselves, so I assume they're after an older, more experienced halfback. Which experienced halfback in Auckland has no contract? Is Danny Tusitala available and in the country? Who else is there?

                                    Danny Tusitala turned up and tried it out in club rugby for OBU in Wellington about four years ago and never made it so that is hardly a recommendation as to the level of his play. Unless of course the good old bias and other things prevalent in selection policies in Wellington took precedence.

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                                      Interview with Josh Syms on SENZ radio, this morning.

                                      https://player.whooshkaa.com/episode?id=905862


                                      Interesting to hear provincial unions voted on whether the Shield would still be on the line in extra time (under the golden point rule). No surprise that Hawke's Bay was outvoted 13 to 1, because they all want to get their hands on it, and obviously the Bay wants to keep it.

                                      They also talk about Lincoln McClutchie and why he has no SR contract. Syms sees it as a matter of opportunity and timing: playing well in front of the right person at the right time and that person gets interested and takes it further. That hasn't happened yet, apparently. He's highly rated in the Hawke's Bay set-up.

                                      Injury update on Devan Flanders: failed his HIA during the game, but much improved after the game. No decision until end of the week on whether he'll be available for the Wellington game.

                                      Caleb Makene is back from injury and available this week.

                                      Fakatava has started running, but definitely not playing this season. The player they got the paper work wrong for (to come out of Auckland under Level 4) is the replacement halfback they've signed. Syms doesn't give anything away about who it is.

                                      Syms also said that Mikaele-Tu'u isn't at 100% fitness yet, after his long injury break from the Highlanders. Considering how well he went yesterday, it's great that he can still get better!

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                                        So no injury update on Toala - that is hopefully good news and he is fine

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                                          So no injury update on Toala - that is hopefully good news and he is fine

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                                          @stockcar86 I hope so! He's been playing very well; much better than last year!

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