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Magpies 2021

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    I don’t want Schmidt. Only him if it’s a three way choice between him, the Hammettuer and Bitchell.

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      Ozich will finish up at the end of the NPC season, and although Lewis offered him the chance to keep his NPC gig as well as coach at the Force, Ozich chose to move the family over to Perth full-time.

      :disappointed_face:

      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/news/hawkes-bay-magpies-poised-for-battle-of-the-bays-ranfurly-shield-defence/BIQB2HRNIBQWIPSJ2OBDYZU4SM/

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        Ozich said Auckland remaining in level 4 has impacted the team's ability to recruit another No 9 and that would be a "work-in-progress" over the next couple of weeks.

        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/news/hawkes-bay-magpies-poised-for-battle-of-the-bays-ranfurly-shield-defence/BIQB2HRNIBQWIPSJ2OBDYZU4SM/

        We have enough good but inexperienced, young halfbacks ourselves, so I assume they're after an older, more experienced halfback. Which experienced halfback in Auckland has no contract? Is Danny Tusitala available and in the country? Who else is there?

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          Ozich said Auckland remaining in level 4 has impacted the team's ability to recruit another No 9 and that would be a "work-in-progress" over the next couple of weeks.

          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/news/hawkes-bay-magpies-poised-for-battle-of-the-bays-ranfurly-shield-defence/BIQB2HRNIBQWIPSJ2OBDYZU4SM/

          We have enough good but inexperienced, young halfbacks ourselves, so I assume they're after an older, more experienced halfback. Which experienced halfback in Auckland has no contract? Is Danny Tusitala available and in the country? Who else is there?

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          @stargazer Auvasa Faleali'i?

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            @stargazer Auvasa Faleali'i?

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            @dice Can't say that name inspires me with much confidence.

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              @stargazer Auvasa Faleali'i?

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              @dice Auvasa Falealii is very good player , was outstanding for Samoa against the NZ Maori this year , highly experienced, would be a good stop gap option ..also Niko Costa who was halfback for this years Gallagher shield championship winner Eden ,very accurate goal kicker as well.

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                Or they could just pick someone from Hawkes Bay club rugby. If the NPC is going to survive it needs to be a provincial competition not a slightly retarded version of franchise rugby

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                  Or they could just pick someone from Hawkes Bay club rugby. If the NPC is going to survive it needs to be a provincial competition not a slightly retarded version of franchise rugby

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                  @duluth We're down 3 halfbacks (Weber with the ABs, Fakatava out for the season, McLeod also broken - not sure for how long). So we need more than one halfback. So local youngsters are probably already in the frame, but we need some experience, too.

                  And, of course, it's an easy thing to say by someone from a big province with a huge player pool. We don't have that many players to pick from.

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                    • DuluthD Duluth

                      Or they could just pick someone from Hawkes Bay club rugby. If the NPC is going to survive it needs to be a provincial competition not a slightly retarded version of franchise rugby

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                      @duluth said in Magpies 2021:

                      Or they could just pick someone from Hawkes Bay club rugby. If the NPC is going to survive it needs to be a provincial competition not a slightly retarded version of franchise rugby

                      I'd prefer they'd pick someone from the region too. I wonder how old the two Hastings Boys halves are? We've had schoolboy halfbacks before.

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                      • NepiaN Nepia

                        @duluth said in Magpies 2021:

                        Or they could just pick someone from Hawkes Bay club rugby. If the NPC is going to survive it needs to be a provincial competition not a slightly retarded version of franchise rugby

                        I'd prefer they'd pick someone from the region too. I wonder how old the two Hastings Boys halves are? We've had schoolboy halfbacks before.

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                        @nepia You would have to assume the coaching know the capabilities of the local halfbacks and perhaps don't rate the rest of them. We have 3 decent local halfbacks, that is quite a few for a smaller province. We haven't got Unlimited depth.

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                          Ozich said Auckland remaining in level 4 has impacted the team's ability to recruit another No 9 and that would be a "work-in-progress" over the next couple of weeks.

                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/news/hawkes-bay-magpies-poised-for-battle-of-the-bays-ranfurly-shield-defence/BIQB2HRNIBQWIPSJ2OBDYZU4SM/

                          We have enough good but inexperienced, young halfbacks ourselves, so I assume they're after an older, more experienced halfback. Which experienced halfback in Auckland has no contract? Is Danny Tusitala available and in the country? Who else is there?

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                          @stargazer said in Magpies 2021:

                          Ozich said Auckland remaining in level 4 has impacted the team's ability to recruit another No 9 and that would be a "work-in-progress" over the next couple of weeks.

                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/news/hawkes-bay-magpies-poised-for-battle-of-the-bays-ranfurly-shield-defence/BIQB2HRNIBQWIPSJ2OBDYZU4SM/

                          We have enough good but inexperienced, young halfbacks ourselves, so I assume they're after an older, more experienced halfback. Which experienced halfback in Auckland has no contract? Is Danny Tusitala available and in the country? Who else is there?

                          Danny Tusitala turned up and tried it out in club rugby for OBU in Wellington about four years ago and never made it so that is hardly a recommendation as to the level of his play. Unless of course the good old bias and other things prevalent in selection policies in Wellington took precedence.

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                            Interview with Josh Syms on SENZ radio, this morning.

                            https://player.whooshkaa.com/episode?id=905862


                            Interesting to hear provincial unions voted on whether the Shield would still be on the line in extra time (under the golden point rule). No surprise that Hawke's Bay was outvoted 13 to 1, because they all want to get their hands on it, and obviously the Bay wants to keep it.

                            They also talk about Lincoln McClutchie and why he has no SR contract. Syms sees it as a matter of opportunity and timing: playing well in front of the right person at the right time and that person gets interested and takes it further. That hasn't happened yet, apparently. He's highly rated in the Hawke's Bay set-up.

                            Injury update on Devan Flanders: failed his HIA during the game, but much improved after the game. No decision until end of the week on whether he'll be available for the Wellington game.

                            Caleb Makene is back from injury and available this week.

                            Fakatava has started running, but definitely not playing this season. The player they got the paper work wrong for (to come out of Auckland under Level 4) is the replacement halfback they've signed. Syms doesn't give anything away about who it is.

                            Syms also said that Mikaele-Tu'u isn't at 100% fitness yet, after his long injury break from the Highlanders. Considering how well he went yesterday, it's great that he can still get better!

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                              So no injury update on Toala - that is hopefully good news and he is fine

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                                So no injury update on Toala - that is hopefully good news and he is fine

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                                @stockcar86 I hope so! He's been playing very well; much better than last year!

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                                • NepiaN Nepia

                                  @duluth said in Magpies 2021:

                                  Or they could just pick someone from Hawkes Bay club rugby. If the NPC is going to survive it needs to be a provincial competition not a slightly retarded version of franchise rugby

                                  I'd prefer they'd pick someone from the region too. I wonder how old the two Hastings Boys halves are? We've had schoolboy halfbacks before.

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                                  @nepia what's kahn doing these days wasn't he going to play heartland? Would be keen on him.

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                                    @nepia what's kahn doing these days wasn't he going to play heartland? Would be keen on him.

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                                    @magpie_in_aus Horowhenua-Kapiti only published a wider training squad in July (see article below), but he hasn't played in any of their preseason games. He also didn't play in their round 1 game on Saturday. So no idea whether he actually is a squad member.

                                    We could do much worse than getting him back to the Magpies!

                                    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/horowhenua-chronicle/news/former-crusaders-halfback-kahn-fotualii-named-in-horowhenua-kapiti-squad/VCHH3WWQBCUPDFQ2OYMRXN46FY/

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                                      @Nepia I see Chris Eaton is a PT no doubt he is fit to lace the boots up if needed.

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                                      • HigginsH Higgins

                                        @stargazer said in Magpies 2021:

                                        Ozich said Auckland remaining in level 4 has impacted the team's ability to recruit another No 9 and that would be a "work-in-progress" over the next couple of weeks.

                                        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/news/hawkes-bay-magpies-poised-for-battle-of-the-bays-ranfurly-shield-defence/BIQB2HRNIBQWIPSJ2OBDYZU4SM/

                                        We have enough good but inexperienced, young halfbacks ourselves, so I assume they're after an older, more experienced halfback. Which experienced halfback in Auckland has no contract? Is Danny Tusitala available and in the country? Who else is there?

                                        Danny Tusitala turned up and tried it out in club rugby for OBU in Wellington about four years ago and never made it so that is hardly a recommendation as to the level of his play. Unless of course the good old bias and other things prevalent in selection policies in Wellington took precedence.

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                                        @higgins Tusitala was with the bay...
                                        He was one of the 6 players in this article - https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby-six-players-removed-from-npc-squads-after-covid-19-travel-exemption-error/JBGEOM47BFCXPQPAF3MLB6HQGI/

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                                          The Hawke's Bay Magpies could be without some top players for the end of the extended Ranfurly Shield and NPC season because of commitments to overseas contracts.

                                          But coach Mark Ozich – himself headed to Australia at the end of the competition for a position with Perth-based Western Force – says it's the same for everyone in a Bunnings Warehouse NPC that could be extended by five weeks or more into late November.

                                          Legendary Magpies skipper Ash Dixon, bound for Japan, is among those heading abroad, but Ozich says there are at least a couple facing the problem of having a possible "small window" of time to meet the obligations of their contracts abroad, complicated by quarantine and other pandemic control issues.

                                          At the other of the scale was fringe squad member, Jordan Thompson-Dunn, a 20-year-old who left a fortnight ago to play "major-league" rugby for Portugal side Benfica, Ozich saying all provincial and senior club sides now face the problem of promising players being lured overseas.

                                          From this - paywalled - article:
                                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/news/magpies-npc-and-covid-one-game-at-a-time/EMC2QT3PONWMOAK6TX5PK6CUKI/

                                          So, apart from Dixon and Ozich himself, there's Falcon (Japan), Ili (Rebels), and ...? Maybe Sapsford (AB7s)? Who else? You'd think the Evans brothers (particularly Gareth), Toala and Visinia are the most likely players to go overseas, but I haven't heard/read anything about them signing contracts abroad.

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