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    I do love the old β€œtiring defence” line that gets thrown out when someone comes off the bench πŸ˜€

    One of the stark differences from the naked eye had nothing to do with the tiring defence or the defence at all, but it was just the speed of the pass from the base.

    That alone I thought it was quite a noticeable difference between TJP and Weber on the weekend.

    They both have accuracy issues, but if Barrett is getting the ball quicker the hope is he will create more.

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    • antipodeanA antipodean

      @nevorian said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

      @nzzp said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

      Controversial opinon here, but I'm not convinced that Weber will be an improvement on TJP. We know that coming on against tired legs makes a halfback look better, and we've seen this back to the Marshall/Kelleher days. TJP is a quality halfback, who sometimes struggles to get his passes right.

      That said, when he focusses on getting to the ruck and clearacne, he looks just fine ... and then brings a lot to the table.

      So, I wouldn't be surprised if we're stoked to see TJ come on with 20ish to go ... and if Weber doesn't look quite as good against a fresh Bok pack.

      Obviously hope to be proved wrong, and BW plays an absolute blinder!

      We seem to have a lack of depth at halfback in NZ at the mo buy is it just because of the very high bar that A Smith has set for others to reach?

      It's never been a great strength of New Zealand rugby, but what is infuriating is the other current candidates don't appear to be bothered by the disparity between their skills and his.

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      @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

      @nevorian said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

      @nzzp said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

      Controversial opinon here, but I'm not convinced that Weber will be an improvement on TJP. We know that coming on against tired legs makes a halfback look better, and we've seen this back to the Marshall/Kelleher days. TJP is a quality halfback, who sometimes struggles to get his passes right.

      That said, when he focusses on getting to the ruck and clearacne, he looks just fine ... and then brings a lot to the table.

      So, I wouldn't be surprised if we're stoked to see TJ come on with 20ish to go ... and if Weber doesn't look quite as good against a fresh Bok pack.

      Obviously hope to be proved wrong, and BW plays an absolute blinder!

      We seem to have a lack of depth at halfback in NZ at the mo buy is it just because of the very high bar that A Smith has set for others to reach?

      It's never been a great strength of New Zealand rugby,

      When Justin Marshall was being called one of our best you can see what a miserable bunch it has been.
      You guys complain about TJ and Weber! Have a thought for poor Merts who didn't know if he was going to have to jump for the ball or touch his toes.

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      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

        @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

        @nevorian said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

        @nzzp said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

        Controversial opinon here, but I'm not convinced that Weber will be an improvement on TJP. We know that coming on against tired legs makes a halfback look better, and we've seen this back to the Marshall/Kelleher days. TJP is a quality halfback, who sometimes struggles to get his passes right.

        That said, when he focusses on getting to the ruck and clearacne, he looks just fine ... and then brings a lot to the table.

        So, I wouldn't be surprised if we're stoked to see TJ come on with 20ish to go ... and if Weber doesn't look quite as good against a fresh Bok pack.

        Obviously hope to be proved wrong, and BW plays an absolute blinder!

        We seem to have a lack of depth at halfback in NZ at the mo buy is it just because of the very high bar that A Smith has set for others to reach?

        It's never been a great strength of New Zealand rugby, but what is infuriating is the other current candidates don't appear to be bothered by the disparity between their skills and his.

        i wanted to play like Richie. I fucking tried. i just couldn't.

        the dude is the GOAT for a reason.

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        @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

        @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

        @nevorian said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

        @nzzp said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

        Controversial opinon here, but I'm not convinced that Weber will be an improvement on TJP. We know that coming on against tired legs makes a halfback look better, and we've seen this back to the Marshall/Kelleher days. TJP is a quality halfback, who sometimes struggles to get his passes right.

        That said, when he focusses on getting to the ruck and clearacne, he looks just fine ... and then brings a lot to the table.

        So, I wouldn't be surprised if we're stoked to see TJ come on with 20ish to go ... and if Weber doesn't look quite as good against a fresh Bok pack.

        Obviously hope to be proved wrong, and BW plays an absolute blinder!

        We seem to have a lack of depth at halfback in NZ at the mo buy is it just because of the very high bar that A Smith has set for others to reach?

        It's never been a great strength of New Zealand rugby, but what is infuriating is the other current candidates don't appear to be bothered by the disparity between their skills and his.

        i wanted to play like Richie. I fucking tried. i just couldn't.

        the dude is the GOAT for a reason.

        Did you try working on your skills..? πŸ˜‰

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        • antipodeanA antipodean

          @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

          @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

          @nevorian said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

          @nzzp said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

          Controversial opinon here, but I'm not convinced that Weber will be an improvement on TJP. We know that coming on against tired legs makes a halfback look better, and we've seen this back to the Marshall/Kelleher days. TJP is a quality halfback, who sometimes struggles to get his passes right.

          That said, when he focusses on getting to the ruck and clearacne, he looks just fine ... and then brings a lot to the table.

          So, I wouldn't be surprised if we're stoked to see TJ come on with 20ish to go ... and if Weber doesn't look quite as good against a fresh Bok pack.

          Obviously hope to be proved wrong, and BW plays an absolute blinder!

          We seem to have a lack of depth at halfback in NZ at the mo buy is it just because of the very high bar that A Smith has set for others to reach?

          It's never been a great strength of New Zealand rugby, but what is infuriating is the other current candidates don't appear to be bothered by the disparity between their skills and his.

          i wanted to play like Richie. I fucking tried. i just couldn't.

          the dude is the GOAT for a reason.

          Did you try working on your skills..? πŸ˜‰

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          @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

          @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

          @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

          @nevorian said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

          @nzzp said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

          Controversial opinon here, but I'm not convinced that Weber will be an improvement on TJP. We know that coming on against tired legs makes a halfback look better, and we've seen this back to the Marshall/Kelleher days. TJP is a quality halfback, who sometimes struggles to get his passes right.

          That said, when he focusses on getting to the ruck and clearacne, he looks just fine ... and then brings a lot to the table.

          So, I wouldn't be surprised if we're stoked to see TJ come on with 20ish to go ... and if Weber doesn't look quite as good against a fresh Bok pack.

          Obviously hope to be proved wrong, and BW plays an absolute blinder!

          We seem to have a lack of depth at halfback in NZ at the mo buy is it just because of the very high bar that A Smith has set for others to reach?

          It's never been a great strength of New Zealand rugby, but what is infuriating is the other current candidates don't appear to be bothered by the disparity between their skills and his.

          i wanted to play like Richie. I fucking tried. i just couldn't.

          the dude is the GOAT for a reason.

          Did you try working on your skills..? πŸ˜‰

          no, dammit, is that what i did wrong?

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            Maybe my imagination, but the Boks, especially the chasing wingers, don't actually go to catch their attacking kicks. Instead, they try to slap the ball back towards their line or just hinder the catcher by putting their hands in the way. Other players position themselves for the slap back. Obviously not illegal but it makes taking a clean catch difficult. ABs need to position themselves to compete for the "slap back". Or has this always been a tactic?

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            • O Old Samurai Jack

              Maybe my imagination, but the Boks, especially the chasing wingers, don't actually go to catch their attacking kicks. Instead, they try to slap the ball back towards their line or just hinder the catcher by putting their hands in the way. Other players position themselves for the slap back. Obviously not illegal but it makes taking a clean catch difficult. ABs need to position themselves to compete for the "slap back". Or has this always been a tactic?

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              @old-samurai-jack they definately did that a few times

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                Maybe my imagination, but the Boks, especially the chasing wingers, don't actually go to catch their attacking kicks. Instead, they try to slap the ball back towards their line or just hinder the catcher by putting their hands in the way. Other players position themselves for the slap back. Obviously not illegal but it makes taking a clean catch difficult. ABs need to position themselves to compete for the "slap back". Or has this always been a tactic?

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                @old-samurai-jack said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                Maybe my imagination, but the Boks, especially the chasing wingers, don't actually go to catch their attacking kicks. Instead, they try to slap the ball back towards their line or just hinder the catcher by putting their hands in the way. Other players position themselves for the slap back. Obviously not illegal but it makes taking a clean catch difficult. ABs need to position themselves to compete for the "slap back". Or has this always been a tactic?

                This is a very old tactic they have gone back to. It was one of the things years ago that lead to rule changes about interfering with the jumper. They would just jump into the defending jumper to disrupt with no intention of catching. Obviously they have had to get a wee bit smarter about the picture they are painting to get away with it but the intention is the same just get in the air at a similar height and wave an arm around.

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                • nzzpN nzzp

                  Controversial opinon here, but I'm not convinced that Weber will be an improvement on TJP. We know that coming on against tired legs makes a halfback look better, and we've seen this back to the Marshall/Kelleher days. TJP is a quality halfback, who sometimes struggles to get his passes right.

                  That said, when he focusses on getting to the ruck and clearacne, he looks just fine ... and then brings a lot to the table.

                  So, I wouldn't be surprised if we're stoked to see TJ come on with 20ish to go ... and if Weber doesn't look quite as good against a fresh Bok pack.

                  Obviously hope to be proved wrong, and BW plays an absolute blinder!

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                  @nzzp said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                  Controversial opinon here, but I'm not convinced that Weber will be an improvement on TJP. We know that coming on against tired legs makes a halfback look better, and we've seen this back to the Marshall/Kelleher days. TJP is a quality halfback, who sometimes struggles to get his passes right.

                  That said, when he focusses on getting to the ruck and clearacne, he looks just fine ... and then brings a lot to the table.

                  So, I wouldn't be surprised if we're stoked to see TJ come on with 20ish to go ... and if Weber doesn't look quite as good against a fresh Bok pack.

                  Obviously hope to be proved wrong, and BW plays an absolute blinder!

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                  Helping keep Weber and the boys (especially Jordie) pimple-free

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                    @nzzp said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                    Controversial opinon here, but I'm not convinced that Weber will be an improvement on TJP. We know that coming on against tired legs makes a halfback look better, and we've seen this back to the Marshall/Kelleher days. TJP is a quality halfback, who sometimes struggles to get his passes right.

                    That said, when he focusses on getting to the ruck and clearacne, he looks just fine ... and then brings a lot to the table.

                    So, I wouldn't be surprised if we're stoked to see TJ come on with 20ish to go ... and if Weber doesn't look quite as good against a fresh Bok pack.

                    Obviously hope to be proved wrong, and BW plays an absolute blinder!

                    alt text

                    Helping keep Weber and the boys (especially Jordie) pimple-free

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                    @billy-tell said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                    Helping keep Weber and the boys (especially Jordie) pimple-free

                    Jordie? The Pimply Giraffe? You'll destroy him, don't do that

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                      @chris-b said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                      @dan54 Some bastard here will probably come up with a video - except, now that I've asked them to. :).

                      Yep remember him spilling one badly in a tackle in first half. Also could have had a try when he popped a no look pass behind him to no one. He was expecting someone to be there but if he had a quick look he would have found Jordie eho would have been a good chance close to the line

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                      @nevorian said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                      @chris-b said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                      @dan54 Some bastard here will probably come up with a video - except, now that I've asked them to. :).

                      Yep remember him spilling one badly in a tackle in first half. Also could have had a try when he popped a no look pass behind him to no one. He was expecting someone to be there but if he had a quick look he would have found Jordie eho would have been a good chance close to the line

                      Yeah - he definitely lost one forward trying to pass in the tackle - a few metres after he'd taken a high kick. I'm somewhat inclined to think that's what people have registered in their mind.

                      Yeah - I saw the no look pass in the corner.

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                      • O Old Samurai Jack

                        Maybe my imagination, but the Boks, especially the chasing wingers, don't actually go to catch their attacking kicks. Instead, they try to slap the ball back towards their line or just hinder the catcher by putting their hands in the way. Other players position themselves for the slap back. Obviously not illegal but it makes taking a clean catch difficult. ABs need to position themselves to compete for the "slap back". Or has this always been a tactic?

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                        @old-samurai-jack said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                        Maybe my imagination, but the Boks, especially the chasing wingers, don't actually go to catch their attacking kicks. Instead, they try to slap the ball back towards their line or just hinder the catcher by putting their hands in the way. Other players position themselves for the slap back. Obviously not illegal but it makes taking a clean catch difficult. ABs need to position themselves to compete for the "slap back". Or has this always been a tactic?

                        Just crowd the area with bodies and wait for an opposition back to jump and try and make the catch (because that’s what they’ve been coached to do) and if they make a mistake all the better.

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                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                          @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                          @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                          @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                          @nevorian said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                          @nzzp said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                          Controversial opinon here, but I'm not convinced that Weber will be an improvement on TJP. We know that coming on against tired legs makes a halfback look better, and we've seen this back to the Marshall/Kelleher days. TJP is a quality halfback, who sometimes struggles to get his passes right.

                          That said, when he focusses on getting to the ruck and clearacne, he looks just fine ... and then brings a lot to the table.

                          So, I wouldn't be surprised if we're stoked to see TJ come on with 20ish to go ... and if Weber doesn't look quite as good against a fresh Bok pack.

                          Obviously hope to be proved wrong, and BW plays an absolute blinder!

                          We seem to have a lack of depth at halfback in NZ at the mo buy is it just because of the very high bar that A Smith has set for others to reach?

                          It's never been a great strength of New Zealand rugby, but what is infuriating is the other current candidates don't appear to be bothered by the disparity between their skills and his.

                          i wanted to play like Richie. I fucking tried. i just couldn't.

                          the dude is the GOAT for a reason.

                          Did you try working on your skills..? πŸ˜‰

                          no, dammit, is that what i did wrong?

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                          @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                          @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                          @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                          @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                          @nevorian said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                          @nzzp said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                          Controversial opinon here, but I'm not convinced that Weber will be an improvement on TJP. We know that coming on against tired legs makes a halfback look better, and we've seen this back to the Marshall/Kelleher days. TJP is a quality halfback, who sometimes struggles to get his passes right.

                          That said, when he focusses on getting to the ruck and clearacne, he looks just fine ... and then brings a lot to the table.

                          So, I wouldn't be surprised if we're stoked to see TJ come on with 20ish to go ... and if Weber doesn't look quite as good against a fresh Bok pack.

                          Obviously hope to be proved wrong, and BW plays an absolute blinder!

                          We seem to have a lack of depth at halfback in NZ at the mo buy is it just because of the very high bar that A Smith has set for others to reach?

                          It's never been a great strength of New Zealand rugby, but what is infuriating is the other current candidates don't appear to be bothered by the disparity between their skills and his.

                          i wanted to play like Richie. I fucking tried. i just couldn't.

                          the dude is the GOAT for a reason.

                          Did you try working on your skills..? πŸ˜‰

                          no, dammit, is that what i did wrong?

                          I have a sneaking suspicion that's where my career fell over.

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                          • antipodeanA antipodean

                            @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                            @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                            @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                            @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                            @nevorian said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                            @nzzp said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                            Controversial opinon here, but I'm not convinced that Weber will be an improvement on TJP. We know that coming on against tired legs makes a halfback look better, and we've seen this back to the Marshall/Kelleher days. TJP is a quality halfback, who sometimes struggles to get his passes right.

                            That said, when he focusses on getting to the ruck and clearacne, he looks just fine ... and then brings a lot to the table.

                            So, I wouldn't be surprised if we're stoked to see TJ come on with 20ish to go ... and if Weber doesn't look quite as good against a fresh Bok pack.

                            Obviously hope to be proved wrong, and BW plays an absolute blinder!

                            We seem to have a lack of depth at halfback in NZ at the mo buy is it just because of the very high bar that A Smith has set for others to reach?

                            It's never been a great strength of New Zealand rugby, but what is infuriating is the other current candidates don't appear to be bothered by the disparity between their skills and his.

                            i wanted to play like Richie. I fucking tried. i just couldn't.

                            the dude is the GOAT for a reason.

                            Did you try working on your skills..? πŸ˜‰

                            no, dammit, is that what i did wrong?

                            I have a sneaking suspicion that's where my career fell over.

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                            @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                            @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                            @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                            @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                            @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                            @nevorian said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                            @nzzp said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                            Controversial opinon here, but I'm not convinced that Weber will be an improvement on TJP. We know that coming on against tired legs makes a halfback look better, and we've seen this back to the Marshall/Kelleher days. TJP is a quality halfback, who sometimes struggles to get his passes right.

                            That said, when he focusses on getting to the ruck and clearacne, he looks just fine ... and then brings a lot to the table.

                            So, I wouldn't be surprised if we're stoked to see TJ come on with 20ish to go ... and if Weber doesn't look quite as good against a fresh Bok pack.

                            Obviously hope to be proved wrong, and BW plays an absolute blinder!

                            We seem to have a lack of depth at halfback in NZ at the mo buy is it just because of the very high bar that A Smith has set for others to reach?

                            It's never been a great strength of New Zealand rugby, but what is infuriating is the other current candidates don't appear to be bothered by the disparity between their skills and his.

                            i wanted to play like Richie. I fucking tried. i just couldn't.

                            the dude is the GOAT for a reason.

                            Did you try working on your skills..? πŸ˜‰

                            no, dammit, is that what i did wrong?

                            I have a sneaking suspicion that's where my career fell over.

                            Mine was having the sporting ability of a wombat, and the coordination of a drunken daddy long legs

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                            • O Old Samurai Jack

                              Maybe my imagination, but the Boks, especially the chasing wingers, don't actually go to catch their attacking kicks. Instead, they try to slap the ball back towards their line or just hinder the catcher by putting their hands in the way. Other players position themselves for the slap back. Obviously not illegal but it makes taking a clean catch difficult. ABs need to position themselves to compete for the "slap back". Or has this always been a tactic?

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                              @old-samurai-jack said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                              Maybe my imagination, but the Boks, especially the chasing wingers, don't actually go to catch their attacking kicks. Instead, they try to slap the ball back towards their line or just hinder the catcher by putting their hands in the way. Other players position themselves for the slap back. Obviously not illegal but it makes taking a clean catch difficult. ABs need to position themselves to compete for the "slap back". Or has this always been a tactic?

                              It smacks of Rassie, but England has used it. If the kick makes clean take unlikely pack the field around and try and slap ball your way, or almost as likely dive on the loose ball when not taken cleanly.

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                                @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                @nevorian said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                @nzzp said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                Controversial opinon here, but I'm not convinced that Weber will be an improvement on TJP. We know that coming on against tired legs makes a halfback look better, and we've seen this back to the Marshall/Kelleher days. TJP is a quality halfback, who sometimes struggles to get his passes right.

                                That said, when he focusses on getting to the ruck and clearacne, he looks just fine ... and then brings a lot to the table.

                                So, I wouldn't be surprised if we're stoked to see TJ come on with 20ish to go ... and if Weber doesn't look quite as good against a fresh Bok pack.

                                Obviously hope to be proved wrong, and BW plays an absolute blinder!

                                We seem to have a lack of depth at halfback in NZ at the mo buy is it just because of the very high bar that A Smith has set for others to reach?

                                It's never been a great strength of New Zealand rugby, but what is infuriating is the other current candidates don't appear to be bothered by the disparity between their skills and his.

                                i wanted to play like Richie. I fucking tried. i just couldn't.

                                the dude is the GOAT for a reason.

                                Did you try working on your skills..? πŸ˜‰

                                no, dammit, is that what i did wrong?

                                I have a sneaking suspicion that's where my career fell over.

                                Mine was having the sporting ability of a wombat, and the coordination of a drunken daddy long legs

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                                @machpants said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                @nevorian said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                @nzzp said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                Controversial opinon here, but I'm not convinced that Weber will be an improvement on TJP. We know that coming on against tired legs makes a halfback look better, and we've seen this back to the Marshall/Kelleher days. TJP is a quality halfback, who sometimes struggles to get his passes right.

                                That said, when he focusses on getting to the ruck and clearacne, he looks just fine ... and then brings a lot to the table.

                                So, I wouldn't be surprised if we're stoked to see TJ come on with 20ish to go ... and if Weber doesn't look quite as good against a fresh Bok pack.

                                Obviously hope to be proved wrong, and BW plays an absolute blinder!

                                We seem to have a lack of depth at halfback in NZ at the mo buy is it just because of the very high bar that A Smith has set for others to reach?

                                It's never been a great strength of New Zealand rugby, but what is infuriating is the other current candidates don't appear to be bothered by the disparity between their skills and his.

                                i wanted to play like Richie. I fucking tried. i just couldn't.

                                the dude is the GOAT for a reason.

                                Did you try working on your skills..? πŸ˜‰

                                no, dammit, is that what i did wrong?

                                I have a sneaking suspicion that's where my career fell over.

                                Mine was having the sporting ability of a wombat, and the coordination of a drunken daddy long legs

                                You would have owned me at any sport with those attributes.

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                                • M Machpants

                                  @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                  @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                  @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                  @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                  @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                  @nevorian said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                  @nzzp said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                  Controversial opinon here, but I'm not convinced that Weber will be an improvement on TJP. We know that coming on against tired legs makes a halfback look better, and we've seen this back to the Marshall/Kelleher days. TJP is a quality halfback, who sometimes struggles to get his passes right.

                                  That said, when he focusses on getting to the ruck and clearacne, he looks just fine ... and then brings a lot to the table.

                                  So, I wouldn't be surprised if we're stoked to see TJ come on with 20ish to go ... and if Weber doesn't look quite as good against a fresh Bok pack.

                                  Obviously hope to be proved wrong, and BW plays an absolute blinder!

                                  We seem to have a lack of depth at halfback in NZ at the mo buy is it just because of the very high bar that A Smith has set for others to reach?

                                  It's never been a great strength of New Zealand rugby, but what is infuriating is the other current candidates don't appear to be bothered by the disparity between their skills and his.

                                  i wanted to play like Richie. I fucking tried. i just couldn't.

                                  the dude is the GOAT for a reason.

                                  Did you try working on your skills..? πŸ˜‰

                                  no, dammit, is that what i did wrong?

                                  I have a sneaking suspicion that's where my career fell over.

                                  Mine was having the sporting ability of a wombat, and the coordination of a drunken daddy long legs

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                                  @machpants said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                  @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                  @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                  @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                  @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                  @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                  @nevorian said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                  @nzzp said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                  Controversial opinon here, but I'm not convinced that Weber will be an improvement on TJP. We know that coming on against tired legs makes a halfback look better, and we've seen this back to the Marshall/Kelleher days. TJP is a quality halfback, who sometimes struggles to get his passes right.

                                  That said, when he focusses on getting to the ruck and clearacne, he looks just fine ... and then brings a lot to the table.

                                  So, I wouldn't be surprised if we're stoked to see TJ come on with 20ish to go ... and if Weber doesn't look quite as good against a fresh Bok pack.

                                  Obviously hope to be proved wrong, and BW plays an absolute blinder!

                                  We seem to have a lack of depth at halfback in NZ at the mo buy is it just because of the very high bar that A Smith has set for others to reach?

                                  It's never been a great strength of New Zealand rugby, but what is infuriating is the other current candidates don't appear to be bothered by the disparity between their skills and his.

                                  i wanted to play like Richie. I fucking tried. i just couldn't.

                                  the dude is the GOAT for a reason.

                                  Did you try working on your skills..? πŸ˜‰

                                  no, dammit, is that what i did wrong?

                                  I have a sneaking suspicion that's where my career fell over.

                                  Mine was having the sporting ability of a wombat, and the coordination of a drunken daddy long legs

                                  Mind you the gals must have loved you!

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                                    Very strong All Blacks team and bench. Cant see the Springbok being competitive in the last test. All Blacks by 50

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                                    @oompb Hey OomPB, how are you doing? We had a scary time in July, but all okay now. You're in Perth now I think, hope you have settled down nicely in Aus.

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                                      @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                      @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                      @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                      @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                      @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                      @nevorian said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                      @nzzp said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                      Controversial opinon here, but I'm not convinced that Weber will be an improvement on TJP. We know that coming on against tired legs makes a halfback look better, and we've seen this back to the Marshall/Kelleher days. TJP is a quality halfback, who sometimes struggles to get his passes right.

                                      That said, when he focusses on getting to the ruck and clearacne, he looks just fine ... and then brings a lot to the table.

                                      So, I wouldn't be surprised if we're stoked to see TJ come on with 20ish to go ... and if Weber doesn't look quite as good against a fresh Bok pack.

                                      Obviously hope to be proved wrong, and BW plays an absolute blinder!

                                      We seem to have a lack of depth at halfback in NZ at the mo buy is it just because of the very high bar that A Smith has set for others to reach?

                                      It's never been a great strength of New Zealand rugby, but what is infuriating is the other current candidates don't appear to be bothered by the disparity between their skills and his.

                                      i wanted to play like Richie. I fucking tried. i just couldn't.

                                      the dude is the GOAT for a reason.

                                      Did you try working on your skills..? πŸ˜‰

                                      no, dammit, is that what i did wrong?

                                      I have a sneaking suspicion that's where my career fell over.

                                      Mine was having the sporting ability of a wombat, and the coordination of a drunken daddy long legs

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                                      @machpants said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                      Mine was having the sporting ability of a wombat, and the coordination of a drunken daddy long legs

                                      A least you had some sporting ability...

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                                        @machpants said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                        Mine was having the sporting ability of a wombat, and the coordination of a drunken daddy long legs

                                        A least you had some sporting ability...

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                                        @victor-meldrew said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                        @machpants said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                        Mine was having the sporting ability of a wombat, and the coordination of a drunken daddy long legs

                                        A least you had some sporting ability...

                                        The older he gets the faster he was.

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                                          @victor-meldrew said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                          @machpants said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                          Mine was having the sporting ability of a wombat, and the coordination of a drunken daddy long legs

                                          A least you had some sporting ability...

                                          The older he gets the faster he was.

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                                          @pakman said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                          @victor-meldrew said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                          @machpants said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                          Mine was having the sporting ability of a wombat, and the coordination of a drunken daddy long legs

                                          A least you had some sporting ability...

                                          The older he gets the faster he was.

                                          Now we know why they call him Nylons.

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