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  • boobooB booboo

    @bovidae said in What should the eoyt squad look like?:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300422401/all-blacks-bolter-josh-lords-emotional-call-to-parents-there-were-a-few-tears

    He also said he appreciated the guidance he got from Barnes and ex-All Black Jarred Hoeata at Taranaki.

    Am not sure that is ideal ... how many cards has young fulla copped?

    Also, haven't seen why Paddy T is coming home. What h ave I missed?

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    @booboo said in What should the eoyt squad look like?:

    @bovidae said in What should the eoyt squad look like?:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300422401/all-blacks-bolter-josh-lords-emotional-call-to-parents-there-were-a-few-tears

    He also said he appreciated the guidance he got from Barnes and ex-All Black Jarred Hoeata at Taranaki.

    Am not sure that is ideal ... **how many cards has young fulla copped?
    **
    Also, haven't seen why Paddy T is coming home. What h ave I missed?

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      @bovidae said in What should the eoyt squad look like?:

      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300422401/all-blacks-bolter-josh-lords-emotional-call-to-parents-there-were-a-few-tears

      He also said he appreciated the guidance he got from Barnes and ex-All Black Jarred Hoeata at Taranaki.

      Am not sure that is ideal ... how many cards has young fulla copped?

      Also, haven't seen why Paddy T is coming home. What h ave I missed?

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      @booboo said in What should the eoyt squad look like?:

      @bovidae said in What should the eoyt squad look like?:

      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300422401/all-blacks-bolter-josh-lords-emotional-call-to-parents-there-were-a-few-tears

      He also said he appreciated the guidance he got from Barnes and ex-All Black Jarred Hoeata at Taranaki.

      Am not sure that is ideal ... how many cards has young fulla copped?

      Also, haven't seen why Paddy T is coming home. What h ave I missed?

      He's going to Japan without his family. Someone else said he is probably just spending time with them before he goes.

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        @booboo said in What should the eoyt squad look like?:

        @bovidae said in What should the eoyt squad look like?:

        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300422401/all-blacks-bolter-josh-lords-emotional-call-to-parents-there-were-a-few-tears

        He also said he appreciated the guidance he got from Barnes and ex-All Black Jarred Hoeata at Taranaki.

        Am not sure that is ideal ... how many cards has young fulla copped?

        Also, haven't seen why Paddy T is coming home. What h ave I missed?

        He's going to Japan without his family. Someone else said he is probably just spending time with them before he goes.

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        @bobily2 said in What should the eoyt squad look like?:

        @booboo said in What should the eoyt squad look like?:

        @bovidae said in What should the eoyt squad look like?:

        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300422401/all-blacks-bolter-josh-lords-emotional-call-to-parents-there-were-a-few-tears

        He also said he appreciated the guidance he got from Barnes and ex-All Black Jarred Hoeata at Taranaki.

        Am not sure that is ideal ... how many cards has young fulla copped?

        Also, haven't seen why Paddy T is coming home. What h ave I missed?

        He's going to Japan without his family. Someone else said he is probably just spending time with them before he goes.

        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby-scott-barrett-and-patrick-tuipulotu-to-return-home-from-all-blacks-touring-squad-rookie-josh-lord-earns-call-up/7EKTETE6JAATGP6XFXKSSYHBPM/

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        • Dan54D Dan54

          Can I ask is anyone else wondering about the ScoBar and PT coming back home suddenly?
          Sco Bar is hauled off at halftime after a couple of dumb penalties , and then suddenly has to get home to wife?

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          @dan54 said in What should the eoyt squad look like?:

          Can I ask is anyone else wondering about the ScoBar and PT coming back home suddenly?
          Sco Bar is hauled off at halftime after a couple of dumb penalties , and then suddenly has to get home to wife?

          To be fair mate I agree, was just trying to see if I could get any nibbles etc. Meant to put smiley face there!

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          • Dan54D Dan54

            @dan54 said in What should the eoyt squad look like?:

            Can I ask is anyone else wondering about the ScoBar and PT coming back home suddenly?
            Sco Bar is hauled off at halftime after a couple of dumb penalties , and then suddenly has to get home to wife?

            To be fair mate I agree, was just trying to see if I could get any nibbles etc. Meant to put smiley face there!

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            @dan54 said in What should the eoyt squad look like?:

            @dan54 said in What should the eoyt squad look like?:

            Can I ask is anyone else wondering about the ScoBar and PT coming back home suddenly?
            Sco Bar is hauled off at halftime after a couple of dumb penalties , and then suddenly has to get home to wife?

            To be fair mate I agree, was just trying to see if I could get any nibbles etc. Meant to put smiley face there!

            Did you just quote yourself, agree, reply, and then explain your own post to yourself? 🙂

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            • HoorooH Hooroo

              @dan54 said in What should the eoyt squad look like?:

              @dan54 said in What should the eoyt squad look like?:

              Can I ask is anyone else wondering about the ScoBar and PT coming back home suddenly?
              Sco Bar is hauled off at halftime after a couple of dumb penalties , and then suddenly has to get home to wife?

              To be fair mate I agree, was just trying to see if I could get any nibbles etc. Meant to put smiley face there!

              Did you just quote yourself, agree, reply, and then explain your own post to yourself? 🙂

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              @hooroo said in What should the eoyt squad look like?:

              @dan54 said in What should the eoyt squad look like?:

              @dan54 said in What should the eoyt squad look like?:

              Can I ask is anyone else wondering about the ScoBar and PT coming back home suddenly?
              Sco Bar is hauled off at halftime after a couple of dumb penalties , and then suddenly has to get home to wife?

              To be fair mate I agree, was just trying to see if I could get any nibbles etc. Meant to put smiley face there!

              Did you just quote yourself, agree, reply, and then explain your own post to yourself? 🙂

              It's the only way he can get a decent conversation around this place.

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              • HoorooH Hooroo

                @dan54 said in What should the eoyt squad look like?:

                @dan54 said in What should the eoyt squad look like?:

                Can I ask is anyone else wondering about the ScoBar and PT coming back home suddenly?
                Sco Bar is hauled off at halftime after a couple of dumb penalties , and then suddenly has to get home to wife?

                To be fair mate I agree, was just trying to see if I could get any nibbles etc. Meant to put smiley face there!

                Did you just quote yourself, agree, reply, and then explain your own post to yourself? 🙂

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                @hooroo said in What should the eoyt squad look like?:

                @dan54 said in What should the eoyt squad look like?:

                @dan54 said in What should the eoyt squad look like?:

                Can I ask is anyone else wondering about the ScoBar and PT coming back home suddenly?
                Sco Bar is hauled off at halftime after a couple of dumb penalties , and then suddenly has to get home to wife?

                To be fair mate I agree, was just trying to see if I could get any nibbles etc. Meant to put smiley face there!

                Did you just quote yourself, agree, reply, and then explain your own post to yourself? 🙂

                God only knows mate!! I just thank my lucky stars if any of my coments actually make it to forum, this internet stuff doesn't always come easy!!

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                  Ian Foster interview @ 29:00

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                    Seems like Wales vs NZ may miss key players like Tipuric, North, Biggar, Rees-Zammit, Faletau etc (see list, ignore clickbait headline)

                    "While Williams joins Justin Tipuric, George North, Leigh Halfpenny, Dan Lydiate, James Botham, Jarrod Evans and Josh Macleod on the injury list the Welsh are also without their England-based stars ... game is outside the official Test window which means Premiership clubs won’t be required to release their players for the fixture ... Dan Biggar, Louis Rees-Zammit, Taulupe Faletau, Callum Sheedy, Nick Tompkins, Ioan Lloyd and Tommy Reffell will be missing."

                    https://www.theroar.com.au/2021/10/06/stupidest-fixture-ever-the-cynical-money-making-ploy-that-exposes-wales-to-all-blacks-annihilation/

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                      I think Lord isn't yet ready for international rugby (lack of experience, lack of muscle and physicality). I guess he will earn his first caps against USA and Italy as Whitelock and BBBR will need a rest before the Irish and French tests.

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                      • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                        commentators must be frantily scribbling down some ziggers like "Lord on high" whenever he take a lineout or the classic "good lord!" if he does anything noticeable at all

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                        @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                        commentators must be frantily scribbling down some ziggers like "Lord on high" whenever he take a lineout or the classic "good lord!" if he does anything noticeable at all

                        As long as he lords it over the opposition they can zing all they like.
                        Quite noble of them really. Even laudable.

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                        • C cgrant

                          I think Lord isn't yet ready for international rugby (lack of experience, lack of muscle and physicality). I guess he will earn his first caps against USA and Italy as Whitelock and BBBR will need a rest before the Irish and French tests.

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                          @cgrant said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                          I think Lord isn't yet ready for international rugby (lack of experience, lack of muscle and physicality). I guess he will earn his first caps against USA and Italy as Whitelock and BBBR will need a rest before the Irish and French tests.

                          Whitelock doesn't need a rest! Apart from his NPC game, last Friday, he hasn't played for a while! If he doesn't play a few tests soon, he'll be seriously undercooked for the Irish and French tests.

                          Edit: The USA and Italy tests are good to give players game time who won't get many opportunities against the stronger opponents, but not because the first choice players need a rest. They've quite a break between the last test against South Africka and the first test of the EOYT.

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                            Ian Foster interview @ 29:00

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                            @tim said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                            Ian Foster interview @ 29:00

                            what dress style is Sir JK aiming for?
                            Post70s-lounge-midlife crisis The Joker?

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                              Good to see they're pissed about it, but (as Squidge pointed out) Foster's ABs have big deficencies. Masked by the skill levels of the players, esp on counter, but still no tactical idea beyond that

                              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300428865/all-blacks-still-licking-springboks-wounds-as-they-shape-up-for-northern-tour

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                                Seems like Wales vs NZ may miss key players like Tipuric, North, Biggar, Rees-Zammit, Faletau etc (see list, ignore clickbait headline)

                                "While Williams joins Justin Tipuric, George North, Leigh Halfpenny, Dan Lydiate, James Botham, Jarrod Evans and Josh Macleod on the injury list the Welsh are also without their England-based stars ... game is outside the official Test window which means Premiership clubs won’t be required to release their players for the fixture ... Dan Biggar, Louis Rees-Zammit, Taulupe Faletau, Callum Sheedy, Nick Tompkins, Ioan Lloyd and Tommy Reffell will be missing."

                                https://www.theroar.com.au/2021/10/06/stupidest-fixture-ever-the-cynical-money-making-ploy-that-exposes-wales-to-all-blacks-annihilation/

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                                @l_n_p said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                                Seems like Wales vs NZ may miss key players like Tipuric, North, Biggar, Rees-Zammit, Faletau etc (see list, ignore clickbait headline)

                                "While Williams joins Justin Tipuric, George North, Leigh Halfpenny, Dan Lydiate, James Botham, Jarrod Evans and Josh Macleod on the injury list the Welsh are also without their England-based stars ... game is outside the official Test window which means Premiership clubs won’t be required to release their players for the fixture ... Dan Biggar, Louis Rees-Zammit, Taulupe Faletau, Callum Sheedy, Nick Tompkins, Ioan Lloyd and Tommy Reffell will be missing."

                                https://www.theroar.com.au/2021/10/06/stupidest-fixture-ever-the-cynical-money-making-ploy-that-exposes-wales-to-all-blacks-annihilation/

                                Great big banana skin waiting for us there then

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                                  @l_n_p said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                                  Seems like Wales vs NZ may miss key players like Tipuric, North, Biggar, Rees-Zammit, Faletau etc (see list, ignore clickbait headline)

                                  "While Williams joins Justin Tipuric, George North, Leigh Halfpenny, Dan Lydiate, James Botham, Jarrod Evans and Josh Macleod on the injury list the Welsh are also without their England-based stars ... game is outside the official Test window which means Premiership clubs won’t be required to release their players for the fixture ... Dan Biggar, Louis Rees-Zammit, Taulupe Faletau, Callum Sheedy, Nick Tompkins, Ioan Lloyd and Tommy Reffell will be missing."

                                  https://www.theroar.com.au/2021/10/06/stupidest-fixture-ever-the-cynical-money-making-ploy-that-exposes-wales-to-all-blacks-annihilation/

                                  Great big banana skin waiting for us there then

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                                  @nevorian James Botham is the grandson of Ian? God, I feel old.

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                                    Good to see they're pissed about it, but (as Squidge pointed out) Foster's ABs have big deficencies. Masked by the skill levels of the players, esp on counter, but still no tactical idea beyond that

                                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300428865/all-blacks-still-licking-springboks-wounds-as-they-shape-up-for-northern-tour

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                                    @machpants said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                                    Good to see they're pissed about it, but (as Squidge pointed out) Foster's ABs have big deficencies. Masked by the skill levels of the players, esp on counter, but still no tactical idea beyond that

                                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300428865/all-blacks-still-licking-springboks-wounds-as-they-shape-up-for-northern-tour

                                    If SA didn't get that last gasp penalty and we were unbeaten with two wins over the RWC holders would the big deficiencies still exist?

                                    If we roll all our NH opposition that would mean that the state of rugby around the world was in the toilet if that is the case.

                                    I have't actually watched the Squidge tape so not sure what the deficiencies are.

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                                      @l_n_p said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                                      Seems like Wales vs NZ may miss key players like Tipuric, North, Biggar, Rees-Zammit, Faletau etc (see list, ignore clickbait headline)

                                      "While Williams joins Justin Tipuric, George North, Leigh Halfpenny, Dan Lydiate, James Botham, Jarrod Evans and Josh Macleod on the injury list the Welsh are also without their England-based stars ... game is outside the official Test window which means Premiership clubs won’t be required to release their players for the fixture ... Dan Biggar, Louis Rees-Zammit, Taulupe Faletau, Callum Sheedy, Nick Tompkins, Ioan Lloyd and Tommy Reffell will be missing."

                                      https://www.theroar.com.au/2021/10/06/stupidest-fixture-ever-the-cynical-money-making-ploy-that-exposes-wales-to-all-blacks-annihilation/

                                      Great big banana skin waiting for us there then

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                                      @nevorian said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                                      @l_n_p said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                                      Seems like Wales vs NZ may miss key players like Tipuric, North, Biggar, Rees-Zammit, Faletau etc (see list, ignore clickbait headline)

                                      "While Williams joins Justin Tipuric, George North, Leigh Halfpenny, Dan Lydiate, James Botham, Jarrod Evans and Josh Macleod on the injury list the Welsh are also without their England-based stars ... game is outside the official Test window which means Premiership clubs won’t be required to release their players for the fixture ... Dan Biggar, Louis Rees-Zammit, Taulupe Faletau, Callum Sheedy, Nick Tompkins, Ioan Lloyd and Tommy Reffell will be missing."

                                      https://www.theroar.com.au/2021/10/06/stupidest-fixture-ever-the-cynical-money-making-ploy-that-exposes-wales-to-all-blacks-annihilation/

                                      Great big banana skin waiting for us there then

                                      pffft hahaha what? They haven't beaten us since the 50s, so suddenly they are a chance with half their starting team out?

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                                      • NepiaN Nepia

                                        @machpants said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                                        Good to see they're pissed about it, but (as Squidge pointed out) Foster's ABs have big deficencies. Masked by the skill levels of the players, esp on counter, but still no tactical idea beyond that

                                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300428865/all-blacks-still-licking-springboks-wounds-as-they-shape-up-for-northern-tour

                                        If SA didn't get that last gasp penalty and we were unbeaten with two wins over the RWC holders would the big deficiencies still exist?

                                        If we roll all our NH opposition that would mean that the state of rugby around the world was in the toilet if that is the case.

                                        I have't actually watched the Squidge tape so not sure what the deficiencies are.

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                                        @nepia said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                                        @machpants said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                                        Good to see they're pissed about it, but (as Squidge pointed out) Foster's ABs have big deficencies. Masked by the skill levels of the players, esp on counter, but still no tactical idea beyond that

                                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300428865/all-blacks-still-licking-springboks-wounds-as-they-shape-up-for-northern-tour

                                        If SA didn't get that last gasp penalty and we were unbeaten with two wins over the RWC holders would the big deficiencies still exist?

                                        If we roll all our NH opposition that would mean that the state of rugby around the world was in the toilet if that is the case.

                                        I have't actually watched the Squidge tape so not sure what the deficiencies are.

                                        Key point on attack is if we don;t break through on attack straight away, we achieve nothing. Add a few phases in and our shape falls to pieces, at a time we should be building pressure. So outside counter or a bit of 1st phase genius, ABs don't have much on attack.

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                                          @nepia said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                                          @machpants said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                                          Good to see they're pissed about it, but (as Squidge pointed out) Foster's ABs have big deficencies. Masked by the skill levels of the players, esp on counter, but still no tactical idea beyond that

                                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300428865/all-blacks-still-licking-springboks-wounds-as-they-shape-up-for-northern-tour

                                          If SA didn't get that last gasp penalty and we were unbeaten with two wins over the RWC holders would the big deficiencies still exist?

                                          If we roll all our NH opposition that would mean that the state of rugby around the world was in the toilet if that is the case.

                                          I have't actually watched the Squidge tape so not sure what the deficiencies are.

                                          Key point on attack is if we don;t break through on attack straight away, we achieve nothing. Add a few phases in and our shape falls to pieces, at a time we should be building pressure. So outside counter or a bit of 1st phase genius, ABs don't have much on attack.

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                                          @machpants said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                                          @nepia said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                                          @machpants said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                                          Good to see they're pissed about it, but (as Squidge pointed out) Foster's ABs have big deficencies. Masked by the skill levels of the players, esp on counter, but still no tactical idea beyond that

                                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300428865/all-blacks-still-licking-springboks-wounds-as-they-shape-up-for-northern-tour

                                          If SA didn't get that last gasp penalty and we were unbeaten with two wins over the RWC holders would the big deficiencies still exist?

                                          If we roll all our NH opposition that would mean that the state of rugby around the world was in the toilet if that is the case.

                                          I have't actually watched the Squidge tape so not sure what the deficiencies are.

                                          Key point on attack is if we don;t break through on attack straight away, we achieve nothing. Add a few phases in and our shape falls to pieces, at a time we should be building pressure. So outside counter or a bit of 1st phase genius, ABs don't have much on attack.

                                          But he condradicts this by showing how we play long phases changing attack points and mixing in the odd kick to move the big forwards around until we find a gap against a tiring defence. eg the Will Jordan try
                                          The examples of Havili being way out of structure were the big telling point for me. Maybe we should look at an ALB/Reiko combination?

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