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  • sparkyS sparky

    @stargazer said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

    Referee appointments:


    France v New Zealand
    Referee: Wayne Barnes (RFU)
    Assistant Referee 1: Luke Pearce (RFU)
    Assistant Referee 2: Karl Dickson (RFU)
    TMO: Stuart Terheege (RFU)

    The All Blacks against France. The man with the whistle is Wayne "blind as a bat" Barnes. What could possibly go wrong?

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    @sparky said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

    @stargazer said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

    Referee appointments:


    France v New Zealand
    Referee: Wayne Barnes (RFU)
    Assistant Referee 1: Luke Pearce (RFU)
    Assistant Referee 2: Karl Dickson (RFU)
    TMO: Stuart Terheege (RFU)

    The All Blacks against France. The man with the whistle is Wayne "blind as a bat" Barnes. What could possibly go wrong?

    Bollocks, he's a great ref. Sure in 07 he was totally inexperienced and fucked the ABs, freezing liked a podium in the lights, but that was 14 years ago. He's one of the best refs in the world now

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      @nevorian said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

      We have been at a bit of a hiatus in the centre’s since then so maybe has been a bit difficult for anyone to reach that level with ALB maybe getting the closest

      Jack Goodhue looked bloody good. Basically played mistake free rugby.
      He's been unlucky with injuries and being moved around from 13 to 12.

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      @frank said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

      He's been unlucky with injuries and being moved around from 13 to 12.

      There's been an obsession with buggering about with the AB midfield for the last 6-7 years. Fat lot of good it has done us.

      Just find the most promising 12/13 combination and let it develop for more than a few games

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      • M Machpants

        @sparky said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

        @stargazer said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

        Referee appointments:


        France v New Zealand
        Referee: Wayne Barnes (RFU)
        Assistant Referee 1: Luke Pearce (RFU)
        Assistant Referee 2: Karl Dickson (RFU)
        TMO: Stuart Terheege (RFU)

        The All Blacks against France. The man with the whistle is Wayne "blind as a bat" Barnes. What could possibly go wrong?

        Bollocks, he's a great ref. Sure in 07 he was totally inexperienced and fucked the ABs, freezing liked a podium in the lights, but that was 14 years ago. He's one of the best refs in the world now

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        @machpants

        Yep. He's now very consistent and I really like the way he communicates with the players - the opposite of pompous and happy to share a joke with the players.

        (The Curse of the Meldrew's is probably now on him and he'll have a shocker....)

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        • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

          @frank said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

          He's been unlucky with injuries and being moved around from 13 to 12.

          There's been an obsession with buggering about with the AB midfield for the last 6-7 years. Fat lot of good it has done us.

          Just find the most promising 12/13 combination and let it develop for more than a few games

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          @victor-meldrew said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

          @frank said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

          He's been unlucky with injuries and being moved around from 13 to 12.

          There's been an obsession with buggering about with the AB midfield for the last 6-7 years. Fat lot of good it has done us.

          Just find the most promising 12/13 combination and let it develop for more than a few games

          Ma’a is still playing. Sure it was only third division but I don’t see why he can’t transfer that form to the biggest stage.

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          • MN5M MN5

            @victor-meldrew said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

            @frank said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

            He's been unlucky with injuries and being moved around from 13 to 12.

            There's been an obsession with buggering about with the AB midfield for the last 6-7 years. Fat lot of good it has done us.

            Just find the most promising 12/13 combination and let it develop for more than a few games

            Ma’a is still playing. Sure it was only third division but I don’t see why he can’t transfer that form to the biggest stage.

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            @mn5 said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

            @victor-meldrew said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

            @frank said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

            He's been unlucky with injuries and being moved around from 13 to 12.

            There's been an obsession with buggering about with the AB midfield for the last 6-7 years. Fat lot of good it has done us.

            Just find the most promising 12/13 combination and let it develop for more than a few games

            Ma’a is still playing. Sure it was only third division but I don’t see why he can’t transfer that form to the biggest stage.

            Fuck yeah. Surprised there hasn't been a co-ordinated internet and media campaign to get him back in Black as it's the obvious answer to our problems.

            Bloody NZRFU giving Foster another two years....

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            • M Machpants

              @sparky said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

              @stargazer said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

              Referee appointments:


              France v New Zealand
              Referee: Wayne Barnes (RFU)
              Assistant Referee 1: Luke Pearce (RFU)
              Assistant Referee 2: Karl Dickson (RFU)
              TMO: Stuart Terheege (RFU)

              The All Blacks against France. The man with the whistle is Wayne "blind as a bat" Barnes. What could possibly go wrong?

              Bollocks, he's a great ref. Sure in 07 he was totally inexperienced and fucked the ABs, freezing liked a podium in the lights, but that was 14 years ago. He's one of the best refs in the world now

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              @machpants said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

              @sparky said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

              @stargazer said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

              Referee appointments:


              France v New Zealand
              Referee: Wayne Barnes (RFU)
              Assistant Referee 1: Luke Pearce (RFU)
              Assistant Referee 2: Karl Dickson (RFU)
              TMO: Stuart Terheege (RFU)

              The All Blacks against France. The man with the whistle is Wayne "blind as a bat" Barnes. What could possibly go wrong?

              Bollocks, he's a great ref. Sure in 07 he was totally inexperienced and fucked the ABs, freezing liked a podium in the lights, but that was 14 years ago. He's one of the best refs in the world now

              He robbed the ABs of a World Cup knockout game and shouldn't have been allowed to referee an under 11 match after that let alone international tests. He's fucked up several other tests since then. A dreadful ref.

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              • M Machpants

                @sparky said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                @stargazer said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                Referee appointments:


                France v New Zealand
                Referee: Wayne Barnes (RFU)
                Assistant Referee 1: Luke Pearce (RFU)
                Assistant Referee 2: Karl Dickson (RFU)
                TMO: Stuart Terheege (RFU)

                The All Blacks against France. The man with the whistle is Wayne "blind as a bat" Barnes. What could possibly go wrong?

                Bollocks, he's a great ref. Sure in 07 he was totally inexperienced and fucked the ABs, freezing liked a podium in the lights, but that was 14 years ago. He's one of the best refs in the world now

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                @machpants said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                freezing liked a podium in the lights

                Wait... podiums move about if not lighted?

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                • M Machpants

                  @sparky said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                  @stargazer said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                  Referee appointments:


                  France v New Zealand
                  Referee: Wayne Barnes (RFU)
                  Assistant Referee 1: Luke Pearce (RFU)
                  Assistant Referee 2: Karl Dickson (RFU)
                  TMO: Stuart Terheege (RFU)

                  The All Blacks against France. The man with the whistle is Wayne "blind as a bat" Barnes. What could possibly go wrong?

                  Bollocks, he's a great ref. Sure in 07 he was totally inexperienced and fucked the ABs, freezing liked a podium in the lights, but that was 14 years ago. He's one of the best refs in the world now

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                  @machpants said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                  @sparky said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                  @stargazer said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                  Referee appointments:


                  France v New Zealand
                  Referee: Wayne Barnes (RFU)
                  Assistant Referee 1: Luke Pearce (RFU)
                  Assistant Referee 2: Karl Dickson (RFU)
                  TMO: Stuart Terheege (RFU)

                  The All Blacks against France. The man with the whistle is Wayne "blind as a bat" Barnes. What could possibly go wrong?

                  Bollocks, he's a great ref. Sure in 07 he was totally inexperienced and fucked the ABs, freezing liked a podium in the lights, but that was 14 years ago. He's one of the best refs in the world now

                  Ooh, subtle, I nearly missed that. Changes the tone of the entire post, that does...

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                  • sparkyS sparky

                    @machpants said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                    @sparky said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                    @stargazer said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                    Referee appointments:


                    France v New Zealand
                    Referee: Wayne Barnes (RFU)
                    Assistant Referee 1: Luke Pearce (RFU)
                    Assistant Referee 2: Karl Dickson (RFU)
                    TMO: Stuart Terheege (RFU)

                    The All Blacks against France. The man with the whistle is Wayne "blind as a bat" Barnes. What could possibly go wrong?

                    Bollocks, he's a great ref. Sure in 07 he was totally inexperienced and fucked the ABs, freezing liked a podium in the lights, but that was 14 years ago. He's one of the best refs in the world now

                    He robbed the ABs of a World Cup knockout game and shouldn't have been allowed to referee an under 11 match after that let alone international tests. He's fucked up several other tests since then. A dreadful ref.

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                    • sparkyS sparky

                      @machpants said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                      @sparky said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                      @stargazer said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                      Referee appointments:


                      France v New Zealand
                      Referee: Wayne Barnes (RFU)
                      Assistant Referee 1: Luke Pearce (RFU)
                      Assistant Referee 2: Karl Dickson (RFU)
                      TMO: Stuart Terheege (RFU)

                      The All Blacks against France. The man with the whistle is Wayne "blind as a bat" Barnes. What could possibly go wrong?

                      Bollocks, he's a great ref. Sure in 07 he was totally inexperienced and fucked the ABs, freezing liked a podium in the lights, but that was 14 years ago. He's one of the best refs in the world now

                      He robbed the ABs of a World Cup knockout game and shouldn't have been allowed to referee an under 11 match after that let alone international tests. He's fucked up several other tests since then. A dreadful ref.

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                      @sparky said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                      @machpants said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                      @sparky said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                      @stargazer said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                      Referee appointments:


                      France v New Zealand
                      Referee: Wayne Barnes (RFU)
                      Assistant Referee 1: Luke Pearce (RFU)
                      Assistant Referee 2: Karl Dickson (RFU)
                      TMO: Stuart Terheege (RFU)

                      The All Blacks against France. The man with the whistle is Wayne "blind as a bat" Barnes. What could possibly go wrong?

                      Bollocks, he's a great ref. Sure in 07 he was totally inexperienced and fucked the ABs, freezing liked a podium in the lights, but that was 14 years ago. He's one of the best refs in the world now

                      He robbed the ABs of a World Cup knockout game and shouldn't have been allowed to referee an under 11 match after that let alone international tests. He's fucked up several other tests since then. A dreadful ref.

                      I wouldn't go quite as far, but he's indeed had a few howlers after that, most notably the 2017 Six Nations game between France and Wales. Complete officiating chaos including a biting incident and total confusion/cheating around French prop subs in a 100-minute test match.

                      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/wayne-barnes-criticised-after-100-minute-match/NE7VYZDFNQF5H4WDCYLZEQOVQI/

                      https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/mar/18/france-wales-six-nations-match-report

                      Watch esp. from 3.40:

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                      • sparkyS sparky

                        @machpants said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                        @sparky said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                        @stargazer said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                        Referee appointments:


                        France v New Zealand
                        Referee: Wayne Barnes (RFU)
                        Assistant Referee 1: Luke Pearce (RFU)
                        Assistant Referee 2: Karl Dickson (RFU)
                        TMO: Stuart Terheege (RFU)

                        The All Blacks against France. The man with the whistle is Wayne "blind as a bat" Barnes. What could possibly go wrong?

                        Bollocks, he's a great ref. Sure in 07 he was totally inexperienced and fucked the ABs, freezing liked a podium in the lights, but that was 14 years ago. He's one of the best refs in the world now

                        He robbed the ABs of a World Cup knockout game and shouldn't have been allowed to referee an under 11 match after that let alone international tests. He's fucked up several other tests since then. A dreadful ref.

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                        @sparky said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                        @machpants said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                        @sparky said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                        @stargazer said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                        Referee appointments:


                        France v New Zealand
                        Referee: Wayne Barnes (RFU)
                        Assistant Referee 1: Luke Pearce (RFU)
                        Assistant Referee 2: Karl Dickson (RFU)
                        TMO: Stuart Terheege (RFU)

                        The All Blacks against France. The man with the whistle is Wayne "blind as a bat" Barnes. What could possibly go wrong?

                        Bollocks, he's a great ref. Sure in 07 he was totally inexperienced and fucked the ABs, freezing liked a podium in the lights, but that was 14 years ago. He's one of the best refs in the world now

                        He robbed the ABs of a World Cup knockout game and shouldn't have been allowed to referee an under 11 match after that let alone international tests. He's fucked up several other tests since then. A dreadful ref.

                        Usually has a brain fart or two each game. Not the first name that springs to mind when I think of the best, hell I've only barely forgiven him for 2007....

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                        • canefanC canefan

                          @sparky said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                          @machpants said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                          @sparky said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                          @stargazer said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                          Referee appointments:


                          France v New Zealand
                          Referee: Wayne Barnes (RFU)
                          Assistant Referee 1: Luke Pearce (RFU)
                          Assistant Referee 2: Karl Dickson (RFU)
                          TMO: Stuart Terheege (RFU)

                          The All Blacks against France. The man with the whistle is Wayne "blind as a bat" Barnes. What could possibly go wrong?

                          Bollocks, he's a great ref. Sure in 07 he was totally inexperienced and fucked the ABs, freezing liked a podium in the lights, but that was 14 years ago. He's one of the best refs in the world now

                          He robbed the ABs of a World Cup knockout game and shouldn't have been allowed to referee an under 11 match after that let alone international tests. He's fucked up several other tests since then. A dreadful ref.

                          Usually has a brain fart or two each game. Not the first name that springs to mind when I think of the best, hell I've only barely forgiven him for 2007....

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                          @canefan what happened in 2007?

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                          • BonesB Bones

                            @machpants said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                            freezing liked a podium in the lights

                            Wait... podiums move about if not lighted?

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                            @bones said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                            @machpants said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                            freezing liked a podium in the lights

                            Wait... podiums move about if not lighted?

                            Yeah, that's why they keep the spotlight on them, to keep the sneaky bastards from running off before medal ceremonies!

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                            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                              @canefan what happened in 2007?

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                              @taniwharugby said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                              @canefan what happened in 2007?

                              Nothing. It was just a rumour on the internet.

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                                Quinn measuring Sevu's head.

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                                • D DaGrubster

                                  @l_n_p

                                  Pivac was considered a disaster early on. The fans wanted him out early on.

                                  To your second point, I have been saying that for a while. The coaching drain is having a bigger impact than the player drain - it affects all levels of rugby in NZ.

                                  I don't think fozzie gets into the top 5 NZ coaches around the globe. Maybe scrapes into the top 10

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                                  @dagrubster said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                                  @l_n_p

                                  Pivac was considered a disaster early on. The fans wanted him out early on.

                                  To your second point, I have been saying that for a while. The coaching drain is having a bigger impact than the player drain - it affects all levels of rugby in NZ.

                                  I don't think fozzie gets into the top 5 NZ coaches around the globe. Maybe scrapes into the top 10

                                  Top 5 from ... Jones, Pivac, Rennie, Joseph, Robertson, Rassie (videos aside?)
                                  Brown (more a gifted assistant at international level a la Wayne Smith?)
                                  Gatland (stylistically not my cuppa for the ABs, but his historical international results vs resources big picture are top drawer).
                                  Maybe Townsend because reputedly Eddie hates facing his sides, can't predict him tactically at all and that's saying something.

                                  That's eight/nine to start with, six kiwis. Closing the coaching gap has made NH sides a much tougher nut to crack once the AB talent of 2015 faded a notch or two.

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                                  • canefanC canefan

                                    @sparky said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                                    @machpants said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                                    @sparky said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                                    @stargazer said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                                    Referee appointments:


                                    France v New Zealand
                                    Referee: Wayne Barnes (RFU)
                                    Assistant Referee 1: Luke Pearce (RFU)
                                    Assistant Referee 2: Karl Dickson (RFU)
                                    TMO: Stuart Terheege (RFU)

                                    The All Blacks against France. The man with the whistle is Wayne "blind as a bat" Barnes. What could possibly go wrong?

                                    Bollocks, he's a great ref. Sure in 07 he was totally inexperienced and fucked the ABs, freezing liked a podium in the lights, but that was 14 years ago. He's one of the best refs in the world now

                                    He robbed the ABs of a World Cup knockout game and shouldn't have been allowed to referee an under 11 match after that let alone international tests. He's fucked up several other tests since then. A dreadful ref.

                                    Usually has a brain fart or two each game. Not the first name that springs to mind when I think of the best, hell I've only barely forgiven him for 2007....

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                                    @canefan said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                                    @sparky said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                                    @machpants said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                                    @sparky said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                                    @stargazer said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                                    Referee appointments:


                                    France v New Zealand
                                    Referee: Wayne Barnes (RFU)
                                    Assistant Referee 1: Luke Pearce (RFU)
                                    Assistant Referee 2: Karl Dickson (RFU)
                                    TMO: Stuart Terheege (RFU)

                                    The All Blacks against France. The man with the whistle is Wayne "blind as a bat" Barnes. What could possibly go wrong?

                                    Bollocks, he's a great ref. Sure in 07 he was totally inexperienced and fucked the ABs, freezing liked a podium in the lights, but that was 14 years ago. He's one of the best refs in the world now

                                    He robbed the ABs of a World Cup knockout game and shouldn't have been allowed to referee an under 11 match after that let alone international tests. He's fucked up several other tests since then. A dreadful ref.

                                    Usually has a brain fart or two each game. Not the first name that springs to mind when I think of the best, hell I've only barely forgiven him for 2007....

                                    Forgive, but never forget

                                    Mind you, as @taniwharugby says there has to have benn something happen to forget...

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                                      If you’ve watched any of the URC then you’ll know Wales has no chance

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                                        If you’ve watched any of the URC then you’ll know Wales has no chance

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                                        @mikethesnow said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                                        If you’ve watched any of the URC then you’ll know Wales has no chance

                                        Esp as Wales B, again!

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                                          George Bridge, an intelligent footballer...?

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