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All Blacks EOYT 2021

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  • BovidaeB Bovidae

    We will likely get to know who won't be involved in this test before the match 23 is announced, as a small group will be flying to Europe earlier than the main squad.

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    @bovidae Good thinking!

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      @crazy-horse said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

      Who hasn't put a mask on upside down/inside out? Hell, I have even tried drinking a coffee with a mask on. I wouldn't recommend that.

      As Graham Henry always said “better mask put-oners make better All Blacks”.

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      @billy-tell said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

      @crazy-horse said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

      Who hasn't put a mask on upside down/inside out? Hell, I have even tried drinking a coffee with a mask on. I wouldn't recommend that.

      As Graham Henry always said “better mask put-oners make better All Blacks”.

      And I'm sure George sets up his mask perfectly at training, he's not likely to go it alone, either...

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      • BovidaeB Bovidae

        Quinn measuring Sevu's head.

        245856920_10158434020566915_8781251885930249136_n.jpg

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        @bovidae said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

        Quinn measuring Sevu's head.

        245856920_10158434020566915_8781251885930249136_n.jpg

        is only the front row seated? Some of the comparative heights are interesting, I'd have thought Reece should be considerably taller than Richie, and Dalton clearly taller than Braydon..

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        • BovidaeB Bovidae

          Quinn measuring Sevu's head.

          245856920_10158434020566915_8781251885930249136_n.jpg

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          @bovidae said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

          Quinn measuring Sevu's head.

          245856920_10158434020566915_8781251885930249136_n.jpg

          He’d need two tape measure at once

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          • P pakman

            When is the team named?

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            @pakman said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

            When is the team named?

            More pertinent m: what time is kick-off?

            Don't make me Google...

            (I know the Gazemeister posted kick off times somewhere, I even commented on them, but I'm lazy ... )

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              @pakman said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

              When is the team named?

              More pertinent m: what time is kick-off?

              Don't make me Google...

              (I know the Gazemeister posted kick off times somewhere, I even commented on them, but I'm lazy ... )

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              @booboo 0830 Sun for those in NZ.

              Anyone know if the game is viewable from the UK?

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                I have published a list of the most important men's test matches as well as the upcoming Black Ferns test on the Fern's home page:

                https://www.thesilverfern.com/post/october-november-2021-test-schedule

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                  @booboo 0830 Sun for those in NZ.

                  Anyone know if the game is viewable from the UK?

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                  @scribe said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                  @booboo 0830 Sun for those in NZ.

                  Anyone know if the game is viewable from the UK?

                  https://www.premiersports.com/ Channel Two live.

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                    @booboo 0830 Sun for those in NZ.

                    Anyone know if the game is viewable from the UK?

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                    @scribe said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                    @booboo 0830 Sun for those in NZ.

                    Anyone know if the game is viewable from the UK?

                    And check out time is 1000 from our dirty weekend hotel, so I'll watch this delayed Sunday night, I guess

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                      https://twitter.com/liamnapiernz/status/1450581168580022273?s=20

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                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300434279/all-blacks-vs-usa-sam-whitelock-returns-as-captain-for-northern-tour

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                          Sounds like they’ve realized that neither Cane nor Savea automatically hold their place, so this is the right call (or Smith could work as well).

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                            Sounds like they’ve realized that neither Cane nor Savea automatically hold their place, so this is the right call (or Smith could work as well).

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                            @gt12 said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                            Sounds like they’ve realized that neither Cane nor Savea automatically hold their place, so this is the right call (or Smith could work as well).

                            I’d hope so but I doubt that’s their thinking, Foster happy to move players/captaincy to fit his plans rather than form.

                            Plumtree said the All Blacks coaches believed Whitelock, who captained the side when they played in New Zealand, was the right man to lead the side in the weeks ahead.

                            Fixed it, he a lock in until RWC IMO, and a real leader

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                              @gt12 said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                              Sounds like they’ve realized that neither Cane nor Savea automatically hold their place, so this is the right call (or Smith could work as well).

                              I’d hope so but I doubt that’s their thinking, Foster happy to move players/captaincy to fit his plans rather than form.

                              Plumtree said the All Blacks coaches believed Whitelock, who captained the side when they played in New Zealand, was the right man to lead the side in the weeks ahead.

                              Fixed it, he a lock in until RWC IMO, and a real leader

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                              @machpants said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                              Fixed it, he a lock in until RWC IMO, and a real leader

                              Careful - the last captain we locked in to the RWC fell off a cliff with form

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                                Team announced Twitter: https://mobile.twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1451270079669100544/photo/1

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                                  Sam Cane is as realistic as he is resolute. So for the experienced All Blacks flanker, and 2020 captain, his mindset has quickly shifted to the final fortnight of this tour, by which time he hopes to be knocking loudly on the door of test selection.

                                  Cane, on Tuesday (NZT) from Cardiff, revealed a planned timeline between he and coach Ian Foster that has him regrouping following his return to test footy via a half-hour off the bench in the 104-14 romp over the USA in Washington DC at the weekend.

                                  By his own admission, Cane is still not ready for a full-blown test against a tier-1 nation, such as this weekend’s clash against Wales at a sold-out Principality Stadium in Cardiff, after a six-month rehabilitation from shoulder surgery to repair a pectoral muscle tear.

                                  But he hopes the next fortnight will nudge him close enough for the selectors to at least have something to think about ahead of that brutal finish against Ireland in Dublin (November 13) and France in Paris (November 20).

                                  “I’m not quite in good enough shape or sharp enough to be playing test match footy right now. My mindset is similar to when I first made the squad and knew I was going to get bugger-all game-time – to target each day and try to be a better rugby player by the end of the week, and hopefully I’ll get up to speed reasonably quickly.

                                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300438454/all-blacks-on-tour-sam-cane-rules-himself-out-for-wales-targets-final-fortnight


                                  Weird, he wants/expects to be selected for the two most difficult tests on this tour, without playing in the two easier tests? He's seriously undercooked already; that won't change if he doesn't play. 🤔

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                                    Sam Cane is as realistic as he is resolute. So for the experienced All Blacks flanker, and 2020 captain, his mindset has quickly shifted to the final fortnight of this tour, by which time he hopes to be knocking loudly on the door of test selection.

                                    Cane, on Tuesday (NZT) from Cardiff, revealed a planned timeline between he and coach Ian Foster that has him regrouping following his return to test footy via a half-hour off the bench in the 104-14 romp over the USA in Washington DC at the weekend.

                                    By his own admission, Cane is still not ready for a full-blown test against a tier-1 nation, such as this weekend’s clash against Wales at a sold-out Principality Stadium in Cardiff, after a six-month rehabilitation from shoulder surgery to repair a pectoral muscle tear.

                                    But he hopes the next fortnight will nudge him close enough for the selectors to at least have something to think about ahead of that brutal finish against Ireland in Dublin (November 13) and France in Paris (November 20).

                                    “I’m not quite in good enough shape or sharp enough to be playing test match footy right now. My mindset is similar to when I first made the squad and knew I was going to get bugger-all game-time – to target each day and try to be a better rugby player by the end of the week, and hopefully I’ll get up to speed reasonably quickly.

                                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300438454/all-blacks-on-tour-sam-cane-rules-himself-out-for-wales-targets-final-fortnight


                                    Weird, he wants/expects to be selected for the two most difficult tests on this tour, without playing in the two easier tests? He's seriously undercooked already; that won't change if he doesn't play. 🤔

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                                    @stargazer said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                                    Sam Cane is as realistic as he is resolute. So for the experienced All Blacks flanker, and 2020 captain, his mindset has quickly shifted to the final fortnight of this tour, by which time he hopes to be knocking loudly on the door of test selection.

                                    Cane, on Tuesday (NZT) from Cardiff, revealed a planned timeline between he and coach Ian Foster that has him regrouping following his return to test footy via a half-hour off the bench in the 104-14 romp over the USA in Washington DC at the weekend.

                                    By his own admission, Cane is still not ready for a full-blown test against a tier-1 nation, such as this weekend’s clash against Wales at a sold-out Principality Stadium in Cardiff, after a six-month rehabilitation from shoulder surgery to repair a pectoral muscle tear.

                                    But he hopes the next fortnight will nudge him close enough for the selectors to at least have something to think about ahead of that brutal finish against Ireland in Dublin (November 13) and France in Paris (November 20).

                                    “I’m not quite in good enough shape or sharp enough to be playing test match footy right now. My mindset is similar to when I first made the squad and knew I was going to get bugger-all game-time – to target each day and try to be a better rugby player by the end of the week, and hopefully I’ll get up to speed reasonably quickly.

                                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300438454/all-blacks-on-tour-sam-cane-rules-himself-out-for-wales-targets-final-fortnight


                                    Weird, he wants/expects to be selected for the two most difficult tests on this tour, without playing in the two easier tests?

                                    Why is almost everyone in NZ assuming Saturday against Wales is going to be an easy test? Wales are the 6 Nations champions and have been targeting this game for months. Alun Wyn Jones is one of the great leaders in Rugby history. They will follow the blueprint Eddie Jones laid down in Yokohama two years ago of winning the collisions, giving nothing, shutting the ABs down.

                                    A win would mean absolutely everything to them after only tasting defeat against the ABs since 1953. Any sense of complacency will be rewarded with pain.

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                                      @stargazer said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                                      Sam Cane is as realistic as he is resolute. So for the experienced All Blacks flanker, and 2020 captain, his mindset has quickly shifted to the final fortnight of this tour, by which time he hopes to be knocking loudly on the door of test selection.

                                      Cane, on Tuesday (NZT) from Cardiff, revealed a planned timeline between he and coach Ian Foster that has him regrouping following his return to test footy via a half-hour off the bench in the 104-14 romp over the USA in Washington DC at the weekend.

                                      By his own admission, Cane is still not ready for a full-blown test against a tier-1 nation, such as this weekend’s clash against Wales at a sold-out Principality Stadium in Cardiff, after a six-month rehabilitation from shoulder surgery to repair a pectoral muscle tear.

                                      But he hopes the next fortnight will nudge him close enough for the selectors to at least have something to think about ahead of that brutal finish against Ireland in Dublin (November 13) and France in Paris (November 20).

                                      “I’m not quite in good enough shape or sharp enough to be playing test match footy right now. My mindset is similar to when I first made the squad and knew I was going to get bugger-all game-time – to target each day and try to be a better rugby player by the end of the week, and hopefully I’ll get up to speed reasonably quickly.

                                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300438454/all-blacks-on-tour-sam-cane-rules-himself-out-for-wales-targets-final-fortnight


                                      Weird, he wants/expects to be selected for the two most difficult tests on this tour, without playing in the two easier tests?

                                      Why is almost everyone in NZ assuming Saturday against Wales is going to be an easy test? Wales are the 6 Nations champions and have been targeting this game for months. Alun Wyn Jones is one of the great leaders in Rugby history. They will follow the blueprint Eddie Jones laid down in Yokohama two years ago of winning the collisions, giving nothing, shutting the ABs down.

                                      A win would mean absolutely everything to them after only tasting defeat against the ABs since 1953. Any sense of complacency will be rewarded with pain.

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                                      @sparky because a welsh poster has told us that most of their A players are not available for this game as it's out of the normal window.

                                      Or are you saying that Wales B is going to be a hard game for our A team?

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                                        @sparky because a welsh poster has told us that most of their A players are not available for this game as it's out of the normal window.

                                        Or are you saying that Wales B is going to be a hard game for our A team?

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                                        @kirwan said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                                        @sparky because a welsh poster has told us that most of their A players are not available for this game as it's out of the normal window.

                                        Or are you saying that Wales B is going to be a hard game for our A team?

                                        There are only 3 or so starters not available due to window, that's a pile of shit. Big excuse in the making. There are, however, a ton of injuries - but that's just bad luck.

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                                          @kirwan said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                                          @sparky because a welsh poster has told us that most of their A players are not available for this game as it's out of the normal window.

                                          Or are you saying that Wales B is going to be a hard game for our A team?

                                          There are only 3 or so starters not available due to window, that's a pile of shit. Big excuse in the making. There are, however, a ton of injuries - but that's just bad luck.

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                                          @machpants said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                                          @kirwan said in All Blacks EOYT 2021:

                                          @sparky because a welsh poster has told us that most of their A players are not available for this game as it's out of the normal window.

                                          Or are you saying that Wales B is going to be a hard game for our A team?

                                          There are only 3 or so starters not available due to window, that's a pile of shit. Big excuse in the making. There are, however, a ton of injuries - but that's just bad luck.

                                          Fair enough, was just parroting what I read. Injuries don't count, we have players out too.

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