All Blacks vs USA
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@stargazer said in All Blacks vs USA:
is there anything more 2021 than an announcement of a pending announcement?
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs USA:
@stargazer said in All Blacks vs USA:
is there anything more 2021 than an announcement of a pending announcement?
Somewhere Aunt Cindy is shaking her head at them releasing too much information in their announcement announcement.
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Any other ideas on team? This is what we had from another thread
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Ethan DeGroot
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Samisoni Taukei’aho
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Tyrel Lomax
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Sam Whitelock
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Tupou Vaa’i
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Ethan Blackadder
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Sam Cane
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Hoskins Sotutu
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Finlay Christie
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Richie Mounga
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George Bridge
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Quinn Tupaea
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Braydon Ennor
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Will Jordan
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Damian McKenzie
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Dane Coles
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Karl Tu’inukuafe
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Angus Ta'avao
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Josh Lord
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Shannon Frizell
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Brad Weber
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Rieko Ioane/ALB/Havili
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Sevu Reece
Could obviously swap some reserves/starters around (eg Coles/Samisoni and Frizzell/Blackadder).
Havent thought through the combos they may like to try at stages of the game either which could dictate bench strategy. eg does DMac start and move to 10 and maybe Jordan shifts to 15?
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Papalii is fit again so he might start at 6 with Cane and Sotutu. Frizell to be the other loose forward in the 23.
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@machpants said in All Blacks vs USA:
Frizzle has an injury, dunno if he'll be alright.
Waste of space.
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Playing teams like the USA should be treated like mid-weekers. No one should get a Test cap for this "demonstration effort".
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Playing teams like the USA should be treated like mid-weekers. No one should get a Test cap for this "demonstration effort".
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs USA:
Playing teams like the USA should be treated like mid-weekers. No one should get a Test cap for this "demonstration effort".
Disagree. That is like the insults NZ Cricket used to get for decades.
Just because you aren't a top tier test team doesn't mean you don't deserve to play tests.
That's the point. You are testing yourselves against another team. That's how you get better and just one reason why the ABs won't be playing a 'demonstration'.
In fact those playing need to show they are worthy of the jersey they are wearing.
We have had plenty of touring players disappear from future squads after playing second tier teams. -
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs USA:
Playing teams like the USA should be treated like mid-weekers. No one should get a Test cap for this "demonstration effort".
Disagree. That is like the insults NZ Cricket used to get for decades.
Just because you aren't a top tier test team doesn't mean you don't deserve to play tests.
That's the point. You are testing yourselves against another team. That's how you get better and just one reason why the ABs won't be playing a 'demonstration'.
In fact those playing need to show they are worthy of the jersey they are wearing.
We have had plenty of touring players disappear from future squads after playing second tier teams.@crucial said in All Blacks vs USA:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs USA:
Playing teams like the USA should be treated like mid-weekers. No one should get a Test cap for this "demonstration effort".
Disagree. That is like the insults NZ Cricket used to get for decades.
Just because you aren't a top tier test team doesn't mean you don't deserve to play tests.
Of course they can, amongst their tier.
That's the point. You are testing yourselves against another team. That's how you get better and just one reason why the ABs won't be playing a 'demonstration'.
It is a demonstration. They lost to Uruguay.
In fact those playing need to show they are worthy of the jersey they are wearing.
Like they used to do in mid-weekers? USA are so bad, there's no way we're going to learn anything new about players. An opposed training run would provide more structure.
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@crucial said in All Blacks vs USA:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs USA:
Playing teams like the USA should be treated like mid-weekers. No one should get a Test cap for this "demonstration effort".
Disagree. That is like the insults NZ Cricket used to get for decades.
Just because you aren't a top tier test team doesn't mean you don't deserve to play tests.
Of course they can, amongst their tier.
That's the point. You are testing yourselves against another team. That's how you get better and just one reason why the ABs won't be playing a 'demonstration'.
It is a demonstration. They lost to Uruguay.
In fact those playing need to show they are worthy of the jersey they are wearing.
Like they used to do in mid-weekers? USA are so bad, there's no way we're going to learn anything new about players. An opposed training run would provide more structure.
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs USA:
@crucial said in All Blacks vs USA:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs USA:
Playing teams like the USA should be treated like mid-weekers. No one should get a Test cap for this "demonstration effort".
Disagree. That is like the insults NZ Cricket used to get for decades.
Just because you aren't a top tier test team doesn't mean you don't deserve to play tests.
Of course they can, amongst their tier.
That's the point. You are testing yourselves against another team. That's how you get better and just one reason why the ABs won't be playing a 'demonstration'.
It is a demonstration. They lost to Uruguay.
In fact those playing need to show they are worthy of the jersey they are wearing.
Like they used to do in mid-weekers? USA are so bad, there's no way we're going to learn anything new about players. An opposed training run would provide more structure.
South African fans probably said something like this on their version of the fern just before they lost to Japan for the first time.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks vs USA:
@crucial said in All Blacks vs USA:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs USA:
Playing teams like the USA should be treated like mid-weekers. No one should get a Test cap for this "demonstration effort".
Disagree. That is like the insults NZ Cricket used to get for decades.
Just because you aren't a top tier test team doesn't mean you don't deserve to play tests.
Of course they can, amongst their tier.
That's the point. You are testing yourselves against another team. That's how you get better and just one reason why the ABs won't be playing a 'demonstration'.
It is a demonstration. They lost to Uruguay.
In fact those playing need to show they are worthy of the jersey they are wearing.
Like they used to do in mid-weekers? USA are so bad, there's no way we're going to learn anything new about players. An opposed training run would provide more structure.
South African fans probably said something like this on their version of the fern just before they lost to Japan for the first time.
@mn5 said in All Blacks vs USA:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs USA:
@crucial said in All Blacks vs USA:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs USA:
Playing teams like the USA should be treated like mid-weekers. No one should get a Test cap for this "demonstration effort".
Disagree. That is like the insults NZ Cricket used to get for decades.
Just because you aren't a top tier test team doesn't mean you don't deserve to play tests.
Of course they can, amongst their tier.
That's the point. You are testing yourselves against another team. That's how you get better and just one reason why the ABs won't be playing a 'demonstration'.
It is a demonstration. They lost to Uruguay.
In fact those playing need to show they are worthy of the jersey they are wearing.
Like they used to do in mid-weekers? USA are so bad, there's no way we're going to learn anything new about players. An opposed training run would provide more structure.
South African fans probably said something like this on their version of the fern just before they lost to Japan for the first time.
and im pretty sure we did before the argentina game last year, "these guys haven't played for nearly a year, probably only have 60mins in them etc"
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“The only player’s that not available is Shannon Frizell, who’s still recovering from a knock that he got with the [ Ta$man] side a couple of weeks ago but apart from that, everyone else is good,” Plumtree confirmedd
@machpants seriously, there were already big question marks around him being in the team...and we've still taken him even though he had an injury before leaving?
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@machpants seriously, there were already big question marks around him being in the team...and we've still taken him even though he had an injury before leaving?
@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs USA:
@machpants seriously, there were already big question marks around him being in the team...and we've still taken him even though he had an injury before leaving?
Yeah I certainly would not have the prat anywhere near a black jersey
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@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs USA:
@machpants seriously, there were already big question marks around him being in the team...and we've still taken him even though he had an injury before leaving?
Yeah I certainly would not have the prat anywhere near a black jersey
@machpants said in All Blacks vs USA:
@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs USA:
@machpants seriously, there were already big question marks around him being in the team...and we've still taken him even though he had an injury before leaving?
Yeah I certainly would not have the prat anywhere near a black jersey
Sevu Reece is in the team though, what are your thoughts on him ?
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@machpants said in All Blacks vs USA:
@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs USA:
@machpants seriously, there were already big question marks around him being in the team...and we've still taken him even though he had an injury before leaving?
Yeah I certainly would not have the prat anywhere near a black jersey
Sevu Reece is in the team though, what are your thoughts on him ?
@mn5 said in All Blacks vs USA:
@machpants said in All Blacks vs USA:
@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs USA:
@machpants seriously, there were already big question marks around him being in the team...and we've still taken him even though he had an injury before leaving?
Yeah I certainly would not have the prat anywhere near a black jersey
Sevu Reece is in the team though, what are your thoughts on him ?
Not a fan, can add samisoni to that as well, Reece is a double: a poach and a wife beater.
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@mn5 said in All Blacks vs USA:
@machpants said in All Blacks vs USA:
@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs USA:
@machpants seriously, there were already big question marks around him being in the team...and we've still taken him even though he had an injury before leaving?
Yeah I certainly would not have the prat anywhere near a black jersey
Sevu Reece is in the team though, what are your thoughts on him ?
Not a fan, can add samisoni to that as well, Reece is a double: a poach and a wife beater.
@machpants said in All Blacks vs USA:
@mn5 said in All Blacks vs USA:
@machpants said in All Blacks vs USA:
@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs USA:
@machpants seriously, there were already big question marks around him being in the team...and we've still taken him even though he had an injury before leaving?
Yeah I certainly would not have the prat anywhere near a black jersey
Sevu Reece is in the team though, what are your thoughts on him ?
Not a fan, can add samisoni to that as well, Reece is a double: a poach and a wife beater.
Cool just checking you weren’t playing favourites
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@mn5 said in All Blacks vs USA:
@machpants said in All Blacks vs USA:
@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs USA:
@machpants seriously, there were already big question marks around him being in the team...and we've still taken him even though he had an injury before leaving?
Yeah I certainly would not have the prat anywhere near a black jersey
Sevu Reece is in the team though, what are your thoughts on him ?
Not a fan, can add samisoni to that as well, Reece is a double: a poach and a wife beater.
@machpants said in All Blacks vs USA:
@mn5 said in All Blacks vs USA:
@machpants said in All Blacks vs USA:
@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs USA:
@machpants seriously, there were already big question marks around him being in the team...and we've still taken him even though he had an injury before leaving?
Yeah I certainly would not have the prat anywhere near a black jersey
Sevu Reece is in the team though, what are your thoughts on him ?
Not a fan, can add samisoni to that as well, Reece is a double: a poach and a wife beater.
Isn't Frizzel a double (or triple)?
