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All Blacks vs USA

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    Playing teams like the USA should be treated like mid-weekers. No one should get a Test cap for this "demonstration effort".

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    • antipodeanA antipodean

      Playing teams like the USA should be treated like mid-weekers. No one should get a Test cap for this "demonstration effort".

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      @antipodean said in All Blacks vs USA:

      Playing teams like the USA should be treated like mid-weekers. No one should get a Test cap for this "demonstration effort".

      Disagree. That is like the insults NZ Cricket used to get for decades.

      Just because you aren't a top tier test team doesn't mean you don't deserve to play tests.
      That's the point. You are testing yourselves against another team. That's how you get better and just one reason why the ABs won't be playing a 'demonstration'.
      In fact those playing need to show they are worthy of the jersey they are wearing.
      We have had plenty of touring players disappear from future squads after playing second tier teams.

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        Frank Halai, Francis Saili and Dom Bird would all agree that you need to show test qualities against 'lesser' teams and not treat them as 'exhibitions'.

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        • CrucialC Crucial

          @antipodean said in All Blacks vs USA:

          Playing teams like the USA should be treated like mid-weekers. No one should get a Test cap for this "demonstration effort".

          Disagree. That is like the insults NZ Cricket used to get for decades.

          Just because you aren't a top tier test team doesn't mean you don't deserve to play tests.
          That's the point. You are testing yourselves against another team. That's how you get better and just one reason why the ABs won't be playing a 'demonstration'.
          In fact those playing need to show they are worthy of the jersey they are wearing.
          We have had plenty of touring players disappear from future squads after playing second tier teams.

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          @crucial said in All Blacks vs USA:

          @antipodean said in All Blacks vs USA:

          Playing teams like the USA should be treated like mid-weekers. No one should get a Test cap for this "demonstration effort".

          Disagree. That is like the insults NZ Cricket used to get for decades.

          Just because you aren't a top tier test team doesn't mean you don't deserve to play tests.

          Of course they can, amongst their tier.

          That's the point. You are testing yourselves against another team. That's how you get better and just one reason why the ABs won't be playing a 'demonstration'.

          It is a demonstration. They lost to Uruguay.

          In fact those playing need to show they are worthy of the jersey they are wearing.

          Like they used to do in mid-weekers? USA are so bad, there's no way we're going to learn anything new about players. An opposed training run would provide more structure.

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          • antipodeanA antipodean

            @crucial said in All Blacks vs USA:

            @antipodean said in All Blacks vs USA:

            Playing teams like the USA should be treated like mid-weekers. No one should get a Test cap for this "demonstration effort".

            Disagree. That is like the insults NZ Cricket used to get for decades.

            Just because you aren't a top tier test team doesn't mean you don't deserve to play tests.

            Of course they can, amongst their tier.

            That's the point. You are testing yourselves against another team. That's how you get better and just one reason why the ABs won't be playing a 'demonstration'.

            It is a demonstration. They lost to Uruguay.

            In fact those playing need to show they are worthy of the jersey they are wearing.

            Like they used to do in mid-weekers? USA are so bad, there's no way we're going to learn anything new about players. An opposed training run would provide more structure.

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            #22

            @antipodean said in All Blacks vs USA:

            @crucial said in All Blacks vs USA:

            @antipodean said in All Blacks vs USA:

            Playing teams like the USA should be treated like mid-weekers. No one should get a Test cap for this "demonstration effort".

            Disagree. That is like the insults NZ Cricket used to get for decades.

            Just because you aren't a top tier test team doesn't mean you don't deserve to play tests.

            Of course they can, amongst their tier.

            That's the point. You are testing yourselves against another team. That's how you get better and just one reason why the ABs won't be playing a 'demonstration'.

            It is a demonstration. They lost to Uruguay.

            In fact those playing need to show they are worthy of the jersey they are wearing.

            Like they used to do in mid-weekers? USA are so bad, there's no way we're going to learn anything new about players. An opposed training run would provide more structure.

            South African fans probably said something like this on their version of the fern just before they lost to Japan for the first time.

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            • MN5M MN5

              @antipodean said in All Blacks vs USA:

              @crucial said in All Blacks vs USA:

              @antipodean said in All Blacks vs USA:

              Playing teams like the USA should be treated like mid-weekers. No one should get a Test cap for this "demonstration effort".

              Disagree. That is like the insults NZ Cricket used to get for decades.

              Just because you aren't a top tier test team doesn't mean you don't deserve to play tests.

              Of course they can, amongst their tier.

              That's the point. You are testing yourselves against another team. That's how you get better and just one reason why the ABs won't be playing a 'demonstration'.

              It is a demonstration. They lost to Uruguay.

              In fact those playing need to show they are worthy of the jersey they are wearing.

              Like they used to do in mid-weekers? USA are so bad, there's no way we're going to learn anything new about players. An opposed training run would provide more structure.

              South African fans probably said something like this on their version of the fern just before they lost to Japan for the first time.

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              Kiwiwomble
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              @mn5 said in All Blacks vs USA:

              @antipodean said in All Blacks vs USA:

              @crucial said in All Blacks vs USA:

              @antipodean said in All Blacks vs USA:

              Playing teams like the USA should be treated like mid-weekers. No one should get a Test cap for this "demonstration effort".

              Disagree. That is like the insults NZ Cricket used to get for decades.

              Just because you aren't a top tier test team doesn't mean you don't deserve to play tests.

              Of course they can, amongst their tier.

              That's the point. You are testing yourselves against another team. That's how you get better and just one reason why the ABs won't be playing a 'demonstration'.

              It is a demonstration. They lost to Uruguay.

              In fact those playing need to show they are worthy of the jersey they are wearing.

              Like they used to do in mid-weekers? USA are so bad, there's no way we're going to learn anything new about players. An opposed training run would provide more structure.

              South African fans probably said something like this on their version of the fern just before they lost to Japan for the first time.

              and im pretty sure we did before the argentina game last year, "these guys haven't played for nearly a year, probably only have 60mins in them etc"

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                “The only player’s that not available is Shannon Frizell, who’s still recovering from a knock that he got with the [ Ta$man] side a couple of weeks ago but apart from that, everyone else is good,” Plumtree confirmedd

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                  “The only player’s that not available is Shannon Frizell, who’s still recovering from a knock that he got with the [ Ta$man] side a couple of weeks ago but apart from that, everyone else is good,” Plumtree confirmedd

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                  @machpants seriously, there were already big question marks around him being in the team...and we've still taken him even though he had an injury before leaving?

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                    @machpants seriously, there were already big question marks around him being in the team...and we've still taken him even though he had an injury before leaving?

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                    @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs USA:

                    @machpants seriously, there were already big question marks around him being in the team...and we've still taken him even though he had an injury before leaving?

                    Yeah I certainly would not have the prat anywhere near a black jersey

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                    • M Machpants

                      @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs USA:

                      @machpants seriously, there were already big question marks around him being in the team...and we've still taken him even though he had an injury before leaving?

                      Yeah I certainly would not have the prat anywhere near a black jersey

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                      @machpants said in All Blacks vs USA:

                      @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs USA:

                      @machpants seriously, there were already big question marks around him being in the team...and we've still taken him even though he had an injury before leaving?

                      Yeah I certainly would not have the prat anywhere near a black jersey

                      Sevu Reece is in the team though, what are your thoughts on him ?

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                      • MN5M MN5

                        @machpants said in All Blacks vs USA:

                        @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs USA:

                        @machpants seriously, there were already big question marks around him being in the team...and we've still taken him even though he had an injury before leaving?

                        Yeah I certainly would not have the prat anywhere near a black jersey

                        Sevu Reece is in the team though, what are your thoughts on him ?

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                        @mn5 said in All Blacks vs USA:

                        @machpants said in All Blacks vs USA:

                        @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs USA:

                        @machpants seriously, there were already big question marks around him being in the team...and we've still taken him even though he had an injury before leaving?

                        Yeah I certainly would not have the prat anywhere near a black jersey

                        Sevu Reece is in the team though, what are your thoughts on him ?

                        Not a fan, can add samisoni to that as well, Reece is a double: a poach and a wife beater.

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                        • M Machpants

                          @mn5 said in All Blacks vs USA:

                          @machpants said in All Blacks vs USA:

                          @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs USA:

                          @machpants seriously, there were already big question marks around him being in the team...and we've still taken him even though he had an injury before leaving?

                          Yeah I certainly would not have the prat anywhere near a black jersey

                          Sevu Reece is in the team though, what are your thoughts on him ?

                          Not a fan, can add samisoni to that as well, Reece is a double: a poach and a wife beater.

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                          @machpants said in All Blacks vs USA:

                          @mn5 said in All Blacks vs USA:

                          @machpants said in All Blacks vs USA:

                          @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs USA:

                          @machpants seriously, there were already big question marks around him being in the team...and we've still taken him even though he had an injury before leaving?

                          Yeah I certainly would not have the prat anywhere near a black jersey

                          Sevu Reece is in the team though, what are your thoughts on him ?

                          Not a fan, can add samisoni to that as well, Reece is a double: a poach and a wife beater.

                          Cool just checking you weren’t playing favourites 😉

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                          • M Machpants

                            @mn5 said in All Blacks vs USA:

                            @machpants said in All Blacks vs USA:

                            @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs USA:

                            @machpants seriously, there were already big question marks around him being in the team...and we've still taken him even though he had an injury before leaving?

                            Yeah I certainly would not have the prat anywhere near a black jersey

                            Sevu Reece is in the team though, what are your thoughts on him ?

                            Not a fan, can add samisoni to that as well, Reece is a double: a poach and a wife beater.

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                            @machpants said in All Blacks vs USA:

                            @mn5 said in All Blacks vs USA:

                            @machpants said in All Blacks vs USA:

                            @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs USA:

                            @machpants seriously, there were already big question marks around him being in the team...and we've still taken him even though he had an injury before leaving?

                            Yeah I certainly would not have the prat anywhere near a black jersey

                            Sevu Reece is in the team though, what are your thoughts on him ?

                            Not a fan, can add samisoni to that as well, Reece is a double: a poach and a wife beater.

                            Isn't Frizzel a double (or triple)?

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                              @machpants said in All Blacks vs USA:

                              @mn5 said in All Blacks vs USA:

                              @machpants said in All Blacks vs USA:

                              @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs USA:

                              @machpants seriously, there were already big question marks around him being in the team...and we've still taken him even though he had an injury before leaving?

                              Yeah I certainly would not have the prat anywhere near a black jersey

                              Sevu Reece is in the team though, what are your thoughts on him ?

                              Not a fan, can add samisoni to that as well, Reece is a double: a poach and a wife beater.

                              Isn't Frizzel a double (or triple)?

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                              @bones said in All Blacks vs USA:

                              @machpants said in All Blacks vs USA:

                              @mn5 said in All Blacks vs USA:

                              @machpants said in All Blacks vs USA:

                              @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs USA:

                              @machpants seriously, there were already big question marks around him being in the team...and we've still taken him even though he had an injury before leaving?

                              Yeah I certainly would not have the prat anywhere near a black jersey

                              Sevu Reece is in the team though, what are your thoughts on him ?

                              Not a fan, can add samisoni to that as well, Reece is a double: a poach and a wife beater.

                              Isn't Frizzel a double (or triple)?

                              Yup think so, at least Reece can be good!

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                                “The only player’s that not available is Shannon Frizell, who’s still recovering from a knock that he got with the [ Ta$man] side a couple of weeks ago but apart from that, everyone else is good,” Plumtree confirmedd

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                                @machpants said in All Blacks vs USA:

                                “The only player’s that not available is Shannon Frizell, who’s still recovering from a knock that he got..........

                                when the girl he hit unexpectedly punched him back.

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                                      https://mobile.twitter.com/T2Rugby/status/1451219685563932676

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                                        https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1451270079669100544?t=cku1pFv7IBEyLSZbuimfBg&s=19

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                                          When did Braydon Ennor play for the ABs before?

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