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Pasifika SR team

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  • NepiaN Nepia

    @derpus said in Pasifika SR team:

    This team is actually shaping up to be better than i thought. Still not sold on the whole eligibility thing but eh.

    I think they stand a good chance of knocking off the Tahs, Rebels and Force.

    Why? In reality, they have similar eligibility rules to NZ. They just happen to be based in NZ for financial reasons.

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    @nepia What is happening regards to rep duties, can the y still choose to represent the Wallabies or All Blacks?

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      @nepia What is happening regards to rep duties, can the y still choose to represent the Wallabies or All Blacks?

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      @sbw1 said in Pasifika SR team:

      @nepia What is happening regards to rep duties, can the y still choose to represent the Wallabies or All Blacks?

      This has been discussed multiple times throughout this thread. 🤔

      Obviously the all ready played for the PIs can't (and they seem to be a large portion of signings so far). The spaces for non qualified for the PIs are limited. The grey area is for PI qualified who have represented the PIs yet (like Ere Enari, Danny Toala), but representing MP doesn't lock you into a PI.

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        @sbw1 said in Pasifika SR team:

        @nepia What is happening regards to rep duties, can the y still choose to represent the Wallabies or All Blacks?

        This has been discussed multiple times throughout this thread. 🤔

        Obviously the all ready played for the PIs can't (and they seem to be a large portion of signings so far). The spaces for non qualified for the PIs are limited. The grey area is for PI qualified who have represented the PIs yet (like Ere Enari, Danny Toala), but representing MP doesn't lock you into a PI.

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        @nepia said in Pasifika SR team:

        but representing MP doesn't lock you into a PI.

        although someone posted earlier, this is something they are trying to get made into a thing so this ties them to Tonga/Samoa (they didnt mention Cook Islands though I dont think...) not sure how that'd work though.

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          @nepia said in Pasifika SR team:

          but representing MP doesn't lock you into a PI.

          although someone posted earlier, this is something they are trying to get made into a thing so this ties them to Tonga/Samoa (they didnt mention Cook Islands though I dont think...) not sure how that'd work though.

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          @taniwharugby said in Pasifika SR team:

          @nepia said in Pasifika SR team:

          but representing MP doesn't lock you into a PI.

          although someone posted earlier, this is something they are trying to get made into a thing so this ties them to Tonga/Samoa, not sure how that'd work though.

          It would be impossible wouldn't it? It's not a National body.

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          • NepiaN Nepia

            @taniwharugby said in Pasifika SR team:

            @nepia said in Pasifika SR team:

            but representing MP doesn't lock you into a PI.

            although someone posted earlier, this is something they are trying to get made into a thing so this ties them to Tonga/Samoa, not sure how that'd work though.

            It would be impossible wouldn't it? It's not a National body.

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            @nepia yeah no idea, I expect so, plus I think if it did they would stop some of the young guys on the fence from signing, not to mention (I edited after) Cook Islands, would that mean you play for MP you get to choose which of the 3 teams you play for...

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              @nepia yeah no idea, I expect so, plus I think if it did they would stop some of the young guys on the fence from signing, not to mention (I edited after) Cook Islands, would that mean you play for MP you get to choose which of the 3 teams you play for...

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              @taniwharugby said in Pasifika SR team:

              @nepia yeah no idea, I expect so, plus I think if it did they would stop some of the young guys on the fence from signing, not to mention (I edited after) Cook Islands, would that mean you play for MP you get to choose which of the 3 teams you play for...

              Haha, yeah Orbyn Leger will qualify for all of the teams.

              I'm unsure if Toala or Enari would sign for them if it locks them into Samoa. They're both pretty far away from the ABs currently but that can change pretty quickly.

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              • NepiaN Nepia

                @taniwharugby said in Pasifika SR team:

                @nepia yeah no idea, I expect so, plus I think if it did they would stop some of the young guys on the fence from signing, not to mention (I edited after) Cook Islands, would that mean you play for MP you get to choose which of the 3 teams you play for...

                Haha, yeah Orbyn Leger will qualify for all of the teams.

                I'm unsure if Toala or Enari would sign for them if it locks them into Samoa. They're both pretty far away from the ABs currently but that can change pretty quickly.

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                @nepia Toala would have to wait for Billy Proctor to fall out of favour first and for all AB supporters sake I hope that this is sooner rather than later. Foster cannot be that poor a selector could he?

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                  Lock in all of these guys
                  Jonathan Taumateine
                  Manu Paea
                  Sam Slade
                  Ezekiel Lindenmuth
                  Tima Fainga’anuku

                  There is apparently up to 8 Hawkes Bay players according to my source ..
                  What’s the run count at the minute ..?

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                    Lock in all of these guys
                    Jonathan Taumateine
                    Manu Paea
                    Sam Slade
                    Ezekiel Lindenmuth
                    Tima Fainga’anuku

                    There is apparently up to 8 Hawkes Bay players according to my source ..
                    What’s the run count at the minute ..?

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                    @steven-harris

                    Thus far, we have 6:
                    Enari
                    McClutchie
                    Fomai
                    Funaki
                    Toala
                    Visinia

                    Maybe 'Apikotoa and Kaifa? Unless they've managed to sign IWL, too, and he hasn't re-signed with the Canes?

                    Don't think Kianu Kereru-Symes is PI eligible, but McClutchie isn't either ... Same with Namatahi Waa.

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                      @steven-harris

                      Thus far, we have 6:
                      Enari
                      McClutchie
                      Fomai
                      Funaki
                      Toala
                      Visinia

                      Maybe 'Apikotoa and Kaifa? Unless they've managed to sign IWL, too, and he hasn't re-signed with the Canes?

                      Don't think Kianu Kereru-Symes is PI eligible, but McClutchie isn't either ... Same with Namatahi Waa.

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                      @stargazer I was thinking about all the guys you mentioned
                      They still need at least 2 more props , another hooker , Slade is more of a utility IWL would be very handy having a bit of size and bulk in the middle row

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                        @stargazer I was thinking about all the guys you mentioned
                        They still need at least 2 more props , another hooker , Slade is more of a utility IWL would be very handy having a bit of size and bulk in the middle row

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                        @steven-harris I would assume that Siua Maile could be the last hooker spot for them?

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                          @steven-harris I would assume that Siua Maile could be the last hooker spot for them?

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                          @african-monkey not sure .

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                            @african-monkey not sure .

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                            Joe Apikotoa has gone from Chiefs to MP.

                            I believe Isaia Walker-Leawere is still with the Canes.

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                              Joe Apikotoa has gone from Chiefs to MP.

                              I believe Isaia Walker-Leawere is still with the Canes.

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                              @number-10
                              Good intel , heard Levi Amua has also signed with MP as well.

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                                Joe Apikotoa has gone from Chiefs to MP.

                                I believe Isaia Walker-Leawere is still with the Canes.

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                                @number-10 said in Pasifika SR team:

                                Joe Apikotoa has gone from Chiefs to MP.

                                He was only an injury replacement player this year so unlikely to get a full contract for 2022 unless 7 props were selected. MP would make sense.

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                                  Pretty sure these guys are definites as well
                                  Ezekiel Lindenmuth
                                  Solomon Kata
                                  Levi Aumua
                                  Manu Paea
                                  Alex McRobbie

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                                  @nogusta said in Pasifika SR team:

                                  Pretty sure these guys are definites as well
                                  Ezekiel Lindenmuth
                                  Solomon Kata
                                  Levi Aumua
                                  Manu Paea
                                  Alex McRobbie

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                                    Not sure if relevant but put it here anyway.

                                    https://facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=5138415986175623&id=219981801352424

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                                      Not sure if relevant but put it here anyway.

                                      https://facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=5138415986175623&id=219981801352424

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                                      @nta Tracy Atiga is a lying, opportunistic dragon. I don't believe even half of what she says.

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                                        @nta Tracy Atiga is a lying, opportunistic dragon. I don't believe even half of what she says.

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                                        @stargazer said in Pasifika SR team:

                                        @nta Tracy Atiga is a lying, opportunistic dragon. I don't believe even half of what she says.

                                        The phrase "million dollar salary" was a red flag but I wasn't even aware other consortiums were in the running.

                                        I'm always a little wary when NZR is getting stick from representatives of the Islands.
                                        OTOH you look at how the Islands are faring as Test nations despite their massive talent pool... A lot of talent being warehoused in other places.
                                        I'm not saying anyone is 100% right or wrong, but it isn't an ideal situation.

                                        Of course, then you look at venality of the Island Unions and think how they are their own worst enemies at times...

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                                          personally i don't think the whole process was as transparent as it could have been, and at a superficial level i liked the idea of a team in Hawaii rather than show horning another into auckland....but....claim they would have been able to pay players +$1m...certainly seems fantastical enough for me to doubt the rest of what they claim was locked in

                                          I also dont think NZR would put some sort of maniacal control of PI rugby ahead of making shit loads of money from loads of new sponsors which is the only way i can see they are claiming to have so much money, its not like they can ever expect to have 80-100k memberships or something like the AFL teams

                                          I also very much doubt the esteemed journalists that they are fact checked any of these claims

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