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Pasifika SR team

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  • S Steven Harris

    Lock in all of these guys
    Jonathan Taumateine
    Manu Paea
    Sam Slade
    Ezekiel Lindenmuth
    Tima Fainga’anuku

    There is apparently up to 8 Hawkes Bay players according to my source ..
    What’s the run count at the minute ..?

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    @steven-harris

    Thus far, we have 6:
    Enari
    McClutchie
    Fomai
    Funaki
    Toala
    Visinia

    Maybe 'Apikotoa and Kaifa? Unless they've managed to sign IWL, too, and he hasn't re-signed with the Canes?

    Don't think Kianu Kereru-Symes is PI eligible, but McClutchie isn't either ... Same with Namatahi Waa.

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      @steven-harris

      Thus far, we have 6:
      Enari
      McClutchie
      Fomai
      Funaki
      Toala
      Visinia

      Maybe 'Apikotoa and Kaifa? Unless they've managed to sign IWL, too, and he hasn't re-signed with the Canes?

      Don't think Kianu Kereru-Symes is PI eligible, but McClutchie isn't either ... Same with Namatahi Waa.

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      @stargazer I was thinking about all the guys you mentioned
      They still need at least 2 more props , another hooker , Slade is more of a utility IWL would be very handy having a bit of size and bulk in the middle row

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        @stargazer I was thinking about all the guys you mentioned
        They still need at least 2 more props , another hooker , Slade is more of a utility IWL would be very handy having a bit of size and bulk in the middle row

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        @steven-harris I would assume that Siua Maile could be the last hooker spot for them?

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          @steven-harris I would assume that Siua Maile could be the last hooker spot for them?

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          @african-monkey not sure .

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            @african-monkey not sure .

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            Joe Apikotoa has gone from Chiefs to MP.

            I believe Isaia Walker-Leawere is still with the Canes.

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            • Number 10N Number 10

              Joe Apikotoa has gone from Chiefs to MP.

              I believe Isaia Walker-Leawere is still with the Canes.

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              @number-10
              Good intel , heard Levi Amua has also signed with MP as well.

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              • Number 10N Number 10

                Joe Apikotoa has gone from Chiefs to MP.

                I believe Isaia Walker-Leawere is still with the Canes.

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                @number-10 said in Pasifika SR team:

                Joe Apikotoa has gone from Chiefs to MP.

                He was only an injury replacement player this year so unlikely to get a full contract for 2022 unless 7 props were selected. MP would make sense.

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                • N Nogusta

                  Pretty sure these guys are definites as well
                  Ezekiel Lindenmuth
                  Solomon Kata
                  Levi Aumua
                  Manu Paea
                  Alex McRobbie

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                  @nogusta said in Pasifika SR team:

                  Pretty sure these guys are definites as well
                  Ezekiel Lindenmuth
                  Solomon Kata
                  Levi Aumua
                  Manu Paea
                  Alex McRobbie

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                    #598

                    Not sure if relevant but put it here anyway.

                    https://facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=5138415986175623&id=219981801352424

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                      Not sure if relevant but put it here anyway.

                      https://facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=5138415986175623&id=219981801352424

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                      @nta Tracy Atiga is a lying, opportunistic dragon. I don't believe even half of what she says.

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                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                        @nta Tracy Atiga is a lying, opportunistic dragon. I don't believe even half of what she says.

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                        @stargazer said in Pasifika SR team:

                        @nta Tracy Atiga is a lying, opportunistic dragon. I don't believe even half of what she says.

                        The phrase "million dollar salary" was a red flag but I wasn't even aware other consortiums were in the running.

                        I'm always a little wary when NZR is getting stick from representatives of the Islands.
                        OTOH you look at how the Islands are faring as Test nations despite their massive talent pool... A lot of talent being warehoused in other places.
                        I'm not saying anyone is 100% right or wrong, but it isn't an ideal situation.

                        Of course, then you look at venality of the Island Unions and think how they are their own worst enemies at times...

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                          personally i don't think the whole process was as transparent as it could have been, and at a superficial level i liked the idea of a team in Hawaii rather than show horning another into auckland....but....claim they would have been able to pay players +$1m...certainly seems fantastical enough for me to doubt the rest of what they claim was locked in

                          I also dont think NZR would put some sort of maniacal control of PI rugby ahead of making shit loads of money from loads of new sponsors which is the only way i can see they are claiming to have so much money, its not like they can ever expect to have 80-100k memberships or something like the AFL teams

                          I also very much doubt the esteemed journalists that they are fact checked any of these claims

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                            Even if she wasn't lying (which she is), Super Rugby teams have generally been operating to a salary cap. I doubt any competition in the world would let a team come in with 5 or 6 times the usual salary cap. Any proposal that didn't take into account the existing restrictions put upon teams would likely be seen as poorly researched, and unprofessional

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                              Not sure if relevant but put it here anyway.

                              https://facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=5138415986175623&id=219981801352424

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                              @nta Can you sum it up for those of us who don't click on Meta?

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                              • NepiaN Nepia

                                @nta Can you sum it up for those of us who don't click on Meta?

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                                @nepia said in Pasifika SR team:

                                @nta Can you sum it up for those of us who don't click on Meta?

                                NZR set up MP to make more ABs players and keep the money in NZ and enact colonialism versus the islands and in hawaii the players would’ve been on million plus salaries.

                                Note: I’ve also not watched, same as I don’t watch anti-vax and flat earth vids

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                                • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                  personally i don't think the whole process was as transparent as it could have been, and at a superficial level i liked the idea of a team in Hawaii rather than show horning another into auckland....but....claim they would have been able to pay players +$1m...certainly seems fantastical enough for me to doubt the rest of what they claim was locked in

                                  I also dont think NZR would put some sort of maniacal control of PI rugby ahead of making shit loads of money from loads of new sponsors which is the only way i can see they are claiming to have so much money, its not like they can ever expect to have 80-100k memberships or something like the AFL teams

                                  I also very much doubt the esteemed journalists that they are fact checked any of these claims

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                                  @kiwiwomble said in Pasifika SR team:

                                  personally i don't think the whole process was as transparent as it could have been

                                  This has always been an issue for me, when you had current NZR board members and the NZRPA involved with the formation of Moana Pasifika.

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                                  • NepiaN Nepia

                                    @nta Can you sum it up for those of us who don't click on Meta?

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                                    @nepia said in Pasifika SR team:

                                    @nta Can you sum it up for those of us who don't click on Meta?

                                    Basically: there was a Hawaii option apparently circulated (Kanaloa?) that wasn't even allowed a seat at the table because NZR wanted a big say in how MP operated.

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                                      i couldn't help reading through the comments, at least most people are calling BS

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                                        Even if she wasn't lying (which she is), Super Rugby teams have generally been operating to a salary cap. I doubt any competition in the world would let a team come in with 5 or 6 times the usual salary cap. Any proposal that didn't take into account the existing restrictions put upon teams would likely be seen as poorly researched, and unprofessional

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                                        muddyriver
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                                        @bobily2 you could argue that All blacks players arent really under the super rugby Salary cap.

                                        the only issue would have been them taking allblacks but would have saved NZR some money and theyre still playing in the same comp.

                                        Paying a tongan guy from france 1 million is the same as paying Keiran Read 1 million at the crusaders

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                                          It certainly seems less transparent than the Drua setup. Early days tho.

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