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  • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

    @chris said in Blues 2022:

    @african-monkey said in Blues 2022:

    @chris As @chchfanatic said, your crew knew what to do and fucked it up. No ones fault but your own.

    Totally agree we fucked up,That doesn't turn the comp into a true competition.
    Thats my point not about the Blues not deserving to win.
    My point being the Competition format was seriously flawed

    And yet the Crusaders still entered the comp.
    I did not know they were unaware of the bonus points system or that they would not play every team. So unfair. I feel sorry for them now.
    You do also realize the Boks fans will now seize on your logic to deny the All Blacks one RWC win, don't you? Mark Keohane will just love you.

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    #430

    @nostrildamus said in Blues 2022:

    @chris said in Blues 2022:

    @african-monkey said in Blues 2022:

    @chris As @chchfanatic said, your crew knew what to do and fucked it up. No ones fault but your own.

    Totally agree we fucked up,That doesn't turn the comp into a true competition.
    Thats my point not about the Blues not deserving to win.
    My point being the Competition format was seriously flawed

    And yet the Crusaders still entered the comp.
    I did not know they were unaware of the bonus points system or that they would not play every team. So unfair. I feel sorry for them now.
    You do also realize the Boks fans will now seize on your logic to deny the All Blacks one RWC win, don't you? Mark Keohane will just love you.

    Great bloke is Mark Keohane he makes me laugh whenever he writes shit.
    Nothing to do with who won that comp not what I was saying .
    I repeat stupid competition were you don’t play half the teams is not a true competition.
    That was the point of the post not a Serve at the Blues but at the format of the competition.
    But I understand the Blues have not won anything for a while so the competition is being defended.
    But deep down you know like everyone really does it was a Mickey Mouse comp.

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    • M muddyriver

      @nostrildamus Im fully in the camp that Super rugby TT was not a legitimate comp.

      Who can beat the Australian teams the most. Joke of a competition.

      Edit: and i hate the crusaders.

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      Chris B.
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      #431

      @muddyriver said in Blues 2022:

      Who can beat the Australian teams the most.

      Sounds like an immensely worthwhile competition to me! I wonder if it could be expanded to other spheres? 🙂

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      • ChrisC Chris

        @nostrildamus said in Blues 2022:

        @chris said in Blues 2022:

        @african-monkey said in Blues 2022:

        @chris As @chchfanatic said, your crew knew what to do and fucked it up. No ones fault but your own.

        Totally agree we fucked up,That doesn't turn the comp into a true competition.
        Thats my point not about the Blues not deserving to win.
        My point being the Competition format was seriously flawed

        And yet the Crusaders still entered the comp.
        I did not know they were unaware of the bonus points system or that they would not play every team. So unfair. I feel sorry for them now.
        You do also realize the Boks fans will now seize on your logic to deny the All Blacks one RWC win, don't you? Mark Keohane will just love you.

        Great bloke is Mark Keohane he makes me laugh whenever he writes shit.
        Nothing to do with who won that comp not what I was saying .
        I repeat stupid competition were you don’t play half the teams is not a true competition.
        That was the point of the post not a Serve at the Blues but at the format of the competition.
        But I understand the Blues have not won anything for a while so the competition is being defended.
        But deep down you know like everyone really does it was a Mickey Mouse comp.

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        nostrildamus
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        #432

        @chris said in Blues 2022:

        @nostrildamus said in Blues 2022:

        @chris said in Blues 2022:

        @african-monkey said in Blues 2022:

        @chris As @chchfanatic said, your crew knew what to do and fucked it up. No ones fault but your own.

        Totally agree we fucked up,That doesn't turn the comp into a true competition.
        Thats my point not about the Blues not deserving to win.
        My point being the Competition format was seriously flawed

        And yet the Crusaders still entered the comp.
        I did not know they were unaware of the bonus points system or that they would not play every team. So unfair. I feel sorry for them now.
        You do also realize the Boks fans will now seize on your logic to deny the All Blacks one RWC win, don't you? Mark Keohane will just love you.

        Great bloke is Mark Keohane he makes me laugh whenever he writes shit.
        Nothing to do with who won that comp not what I was saying .
        I repeat stupid competition were you don’t play half the teams is not a true competition.
        That was the point of the post not a Serve at the Blues but at the format of the competition.
        But I understand the Blues have not won anything for a while so the competition is being defended.
        But deep down you know like everyone really does it was a Mickey Mouse comp.

        if you go back you will see I only entered this thread to defend Crusaders from being called discards.

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        • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

          @chris said in Blues 2022:

          @nostrildamus said in Blues 2022:

          @chris said in Blues 2022:

          @african-monkey said in Blues 2022:

          @chris As @chchfanatic said, your crew knew what to do and fucked it up. No ones fault but your own.

          Totally agree we fucked up,That doesn't turn the comp into a true competition.
          Thats my point not about the Blues not deserving to win.
          My point being the Competition format was seriously flawed

          And yet the Crusaders still entered the comp.
          I did not know they were unaware of the bonus points system or that they would not play every team. So unfair. I feel sorry for them now.
          You do also realize the Boks fans will now seize on your logic to deny the All Blacks one RWC win, don't you? Mark Keohane will just love you.

          Great bloke is Mark Keohane he makes me laugh whenever he writes shit.
          Nothing to do with who won that comp not what I was saying .
          I repeat stupid competition were you don’t play half the teams is not a true competition.
          That was the point of the post not a Serve at the Blues but at the format of the competition.
          But I understand the Blues have not won anything for a while so the competition is being defended.
          But deep down you know like everyone really does it was a Mickey Mouse comp.

          if you go back you will see I only entered this thread to defend Crusaders from being called discards.

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          #433

          @nostrildamus said in Blues 2022:

          @chris said in Blues 2022:

          @nostrildamus said in Blues 2022:

          @chris said in Blues 2022:

          @african-monkey said in Blues 2022:

          @chris As @chchfanatic said, your crew knew what to do and fucked it up. No ones fault but your own.

          Totally agree we fucked up,That doesn't turn the comp into a true competition.
          Thats my point not about the Blues not deserving to win.
          My point being the Competition format was seriously flawed

          And yet the Crusaders still entered the comp.
          I did not know they were unaware of the bonus points system or that they would not play every team. So unfair. I feel sorry for them now.
          You do also realize the Boks fans will now seize on your logic to deny the All Blacks one RWC win, don't you? Mark Keohane will just love you.

          Great bloke is Mark Keohane he makes me laugh whenever he writes shit.
          Nothing to do with who won that comp not what I was saying .
          I repeat stupid competition were you don’t play half the teams is not a true competition.
          That was the point of the post not a Serve at the Blues but at the format of the competition.
          But I understand the Blues have not won anything for a while so the competition is being defended.
          But deep down you know like everyone really does it was a Mickey Mouse comp.

          if you go back you will see I only entered this thread to defend Crusaders from being called discards.

          Haha True.

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          • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

            @chris said in Blues 2022:

            @african-monkey said in Blues 2022:

            @chris As @chchfanatic said, your crew knew what to do and fucked it up. No ones fault but your own.

            Totally agree we fucked up,That doesn't turn the comp into a true competition.
            Thats my point not about the Blues not deserving to win.
            My point being the Competition format was seriously flawed

            And yet the Crusaders still entered the comp.
            I did not know they were unaware of the bonus points system or that they would not play every team. So unfair. I feel sorry for them now.
            You do also realize the Boks fans will now seize on your logic to deny the All Blacks one RWC win, don't you? Mark Keohane will just love you.

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            #434

            @nostrildamus said in Blues 2022:

            @chris said in Blues 2022:

            @african-monkey said in Blues 2022:

            @chris As @chchfanatic said, your crew knew what to do and fucked it up. No ones fault but your own.

            Totally agree we fucked up,That doesn't turn the comp into a true competition.
            Thats my point not about the Blues not deserving to win.
            My point being the Competition format was seriously flawed

            And yet the Crusaders still entered the comp.
            I did not know they were unaware of the bonus points system or that they would not play every team. So unfair. I feel sorry for them now.
            You do also realize the Boks fans will now seize on your logic to deny the All Blacks one RWC win, don't you? Mark Keohane will just love you.

            I don't give a crap either way, but I do find it amusing many are saying tough shit the Crusaders knew the rules, yet in another thread many (the same many?) lamented the rule that 'awarded' the Cricket World Cup to England. Surely the Black Caps knew the rules so it's tough titties to them too?

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              Billy Tell
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              #435

              Be interesting to see how this pans out. Left Ireland on a low (yet another ¼ final exit) and several players hinted they were happy to see the back of him (obsessive compulsive attention to detail, snuffed out all creativity, withering post-match criticism of players). Could be a master stroke though.

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              • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                Be interesting to see how this pans out. Left Ireland on a low (yet another ¼ final exit) and several players hinted they were happy to see the back of him (obsessive compulsive attention to detail, snuffed out all creativity, withering post-match criticism of players). Could be a master stroke though.

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                #436

                @billy-tell said in Blues 2022:

                Be interesting to see how this pans out. Left Ireland on a low (yet another ¼ final exit) and several players hinted they were happy to see the back of him (obsessive compulsive attention to detail, snuffed out all creativity, withering post-match criticism of players). Could be a master stroke though.

                He won't be the head coach though, so very unlikely that he will be calling out players in the post-match press conferences. Also, those Irish are very sensitive souls, so I can see how maybe his calling out those guys may have a more detrimental impact

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                • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                  @nostrildamus said in Blues 2022:

                  @chris said in Blues 2022:

                  @african-monkey said in Blues 2022:

                  @chris As @chchfanatic said, your crew knew what to do and fucked it up. No ones fault but your own.

                  Totally agree we fucked up,That doesn't turn the comp into a true competition.
                  Thats my point not about the Blues not deserving to win.
                  My point being the Competition format was seriously flawed

                  And yet the Crusaders still entered the comp.
                  I did not know they were unaware of the bonus points system or that they would not play every team. So unfair. I feel sorry for them now.
                  You do also realize the Boks fans will now seize on your logic to deny the All Blacks one RWC win, don't you? Mark Keohane will just love you.

                  I don't give a crap either way, but I do find it amusing many are saying tough shit the Crusaders knew the rules, yet in another thread many (the same many?) lamented the rule that 'awarded' the Cricket World Cup to England. Surely the Black Caps knew the rules so it's tough titties to them too?

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                  nostrildamus
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                  #437

                  @crazy-horse said in Blues 2022:

                  @nostrildamus said in Blues 2022:

                  @chris said in Blues 2022:

                  @african-monkey said in Blues 2022:

                  @chris As @chchfanatic said, your crew knew what to do and fucked it up. No ones fault but your own.

                  Totally agree we fucked up,That doesn't turn the comp into a true competition.
                  Thats my point not about the Blues not deserving to win.
                  My point being the Competition format was seriously flawed

                  And yet the Crusaders still entered the comp.
                  I did not know they were unaware of the bonus points system or that they would not play every team. So unfair. I feel sorry for them now.
                  You do also realize the Boks fans will now seize on your logic to deny the All Blacks one RWC win, don't you? Mark Keohane will just love you.

                  I don't give a crap either way, but I do find it amusing many are saying tough shit the Crusaders knew the rules, yet in another thread many (the same many?) lamented the rule that 'awarded' the Cricket World Cup to England. Surely the Black Caps knew the rules so it's tough titties to them too?

                  If the Black Caps fans (on that thread) say the Cricket World Cup is a meaningless competition then I totally agree with you..

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                  • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                    Be interesting to see how this pans out. Left Ireland on a low (yet another ¼ final exit) and several players hinted they were happy to see the back of him (obsessive compulsive attention to detail, snuffed out all creativity, withering post-match criticism of players). Could be a master stroke though.

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                    L_n_P
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                    #438

                    @billy-tell said in Blues 2022:

                    Be interesting to see how this pans out. Left Ireland on a low (yet another ¼ final exit) and several players hinted they were happy to see the back of him (obsessive compulsive attention to detail, snuffed out all creativity, withering post-match criticism of players). Could be a master stroke though.

                    Depends what Joe wants to do and how ambitious he is, or is this a semi-retirement gig.

                    How many coaches of international teams leave their first gig on a high though - any?

                    Graham Henry resigned from Wales in 2002, admitted he shouldn't have taken up the (losing) 2001 BIL role, lost with the ABs in the 2007 RWC quarter final ... kept on learning from his failures. Bloody driven. Eddie Jones looks a bit similar imo. Warren Gatland was panned after Ireland, left Wales on a high. Now on a low after the Chiefs and the latest BIL tour etc? ... swings and roundabouts.

                    Coaches like Henry and Jones just acknowledge where they need to get better and keep on learning.

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                    • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                      @nostrildamus said in Blues 2022:

                      @chris said in Blues 2022:

                      @african-monkey said in Blues 2022:

                      @chris As @chchfanatic said, your crew knew what to do and fucked it up. No ones fault but your own.

                      Totally agree we fucked up,That doesn't turn the comp into a true competition.
                      Thats my point not about the Blues not deserving to win.
                      My point being the Competition format was seriously flawed

                      And yet the Crusaders still entered the comp.
                      I did not know they were unaware of the bonus points system or that they would not play every team. So unfair. I feel sorry for them now.
                      You do also realize the Boks fans will now seize on your logic to deny the All Blacks one RWC win, don't you? Mark Keohane will just love you.

                      I don't give a crap either way, but I do find it amusing many are saying tough shit the Crusaders knew the rules, yet in another thread many (the same many?) lamented the rule that 'awarded' the Cricket World Cup to England. Surely the Black Caps knew the rules so it's tough titties to them too?

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                      #439

                      @crazy-horse Well yeah, it's exactly the same. Again, no one to blame but ourselves for not winning that WC.

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                      • J junior

                        @billy-tell said in Blues 2022:

                        Be interesting to see how this pans out. Left Ireland on a low (yet another ¼ final exit) and several players hinted they were happy to see the back of him (obsessive compulsive attention to detail, snuffed out all creativity, withering post-match criticism of players). Could be a master stroke though.

                        He won't be the head coach though, so very unlikely that he will be calling out players in the post-match press conferences. Also, those Irish are very sensitive souls, so I can see how maybe his calling out those guys may have a more detrimental impact

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                        @junior said in Blues 2022:

                        @billy-tell said in Blues 2022:

                        Be interesting to see how this pans out. Left Ireland on a low (yet another ¼ final exit) and several players hinted they were happy to see the back of him (obsessive compulsive attention to detail, snuffed out all creativity, withering post-match criticism of players). Could be a master stroke though.

                        He won't be the head coach though, so very unlikely that he will be calling out players in the post-match press conferences. Also, those Irish are very sensitive souls, so I can see how maybe his calling out those guys may have a more detrimental impact

                        I dunno about sensitive souls but the Irish sure love a chip on the shoulder.

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                          One of my favorite Blues tries. Brilliant by all involved.

                          This would be in my top 5 favorite Blues tries. Replay value is high.
                          https://streamable.com/863fr4

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                          • DiceD Dice

                            One of my favorite Blues tries. Brilliant by all involved.

                            This would be in my top 5 favorite Blues tries. Replay value is high.
                            https://streamable.com/863fr4

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                            @dice Braid starts the move, then gets in support to receive the offload from Ice, and then flicks the pass to Atiga while falling. Just class.

                            Although Howlett didn't have any involvement in the try, of course he's already in support as an option even though he's coming from the far side of the field.

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                            • DiceD Dice

                              One of my favorite Blues tries. Brilliant by all involved.

                              This would be in my top 5 favorite Blues tries. Replay value is high.
                              https://streamable.com/863fr4

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                              @dice Haha remember being at that game, sitting in the old terraces with some school mates.

                              Gee Toeava was some talent, as was shown in that play. Sadly he left NZ way too early.

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                                @dice Haha remember being at that game, sitting in the old terraces with some school mates.

                                Gee Toeava was some talent, as was shown in that play. Sadly he left NZ way too early.

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                                @african-monkey Toeava put on a show in that game.

                                https://streamable.com/511nyb
                                https://streamable.com/zrvwc5

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                                  #445

                                  Blues instagram account posted a picture of Bryce Heem training with the squad, so assume he is returning next year.

                                  Marcel Reneta too.

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                                    Blues instagram account posted a picture of Bryce Heem training with the squad, so assume he is returning next year.

                                    Marcel Reneta too.

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                                    @tim Also Tanielu Tele'a is there so with Ioane and Heem that is 3 of the five midfielders confirmed. Maybe Tua and Evans to complete the group? Or there is that Wrampling rumor about. They could still pick only 4, carry an extra forward and keep Evans in the wtg.
                                    Edit: I doubt he is staying on but if he is, Emoni Narawa has looked more than useful for BOP in the midfield this season.

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                                      @tim Also Tanielu Tele'a is there so with Ioane and Heem that is 3 of the five midfielders confirmed. Maybe Tua and Evans to complete the group? Or there is that Wrampling rumor about. They could still pick only 4, carry an extra forward and keep Evans in the wtg.
                                      Edit: I doubt he is staying on but if he is, Emoni Narawa has looked more than useful for BOP in the midfield this season.

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                                      @daffy-jaffy said in Blues 2022:

                                      @tim Also Tanielu Tele'a is there so with Ioane and Heem that is 3 of the five midfielders confirmed. Maybe Tua and Evans to complete the group? Or there is that Wrampling rumor about. They could still pick only 4, carry an extra forward and keep Evans in the wtg.
                                      Edit: I doubt he is staying on but if he is, Emoni Narawa has looked more than useful for BOP in the midfield this season.

                                      RTS will b there and heem a winger as for taniielu not sure doesn't look happy

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                                        #448

                                        Based on what we know from press releases and the this thread:

                                        Props

                                        Tu'inukuafe
                                        Hodgman
                                        Jordan Lay
                                        O Tu'ungafasi
                                        Laulala
                                        Renata

                                        Hookers

                                        Vikena
                                        Eklund
                                        Riccitelli

                                        Locks

                                        Goodhue (healthy?)
                                        Darry
                                        Romano
                                        1x or 0x lock

                                        Lock/Loose Forward

                                        Suafoa
                                        1x or 0x lock/loose forward

                                        Loose forwards

                                        Choat
                                        Segner
                                        Papalii
                                        Robinson
                                        Plumtree
                                        Sotutu
                                        A Ioane

                                        Halfbacks

                                        Nock
                                        Christie
                                        Funaki

                                        1st Five Eighths

                                        Barrett
                                        Perofeta
                                        Plummer

                                        Midfield

                                        T Tele'a
                                        R Ioane
                                        2x Midfielders

                                        Outside Backs

                                        Tuivasa-Sheck
                                        Clarke
                                        M Telea
                                        Heem
                                        AJ Lam
                                        Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                                        Sullivan

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                                          #449

                                          Might see Plumtree, Evans, and Tua or Wrampling taking up three of those positions in the squad, but lock is tough to pick.

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