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Blues 2022

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  • Billy TellB Billy Tell

    Be interesting to see how this pans out. Left Ireland on a low (yet another ¼ final exit) and several players hinted they were happy to see the back of him (obsessive compulsive attention to detail, snuffed out all creativity, withering post-match criticism of players). Could be a master stroke though.

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    @billy-tell said in Blues 2022:

    Be interesting to see how this pans out. Left Ireland on a low (yet another ¼ final exit) and several players hinted they were happy to see the back of him (obsessive compulsive attention to detail, snuffed out all creativity, withering post-match criticism of players). Could be a master stroke though.

    Depends what Joe wants to do and how ambitious he is, or is this a semi-retirement gig.

    How many coaches of international teams leave their first gig on a high though - any?

    Graham Henry resigned from Wales in 2002, admitted he shouldn't have taken up the (losing) 2001 BIL role, lost with the ABs in the 2007 RWC quarter final ... kept on learning from his failures. Bloody driven. Eddie Jones looks a bit similar imo. Warren Gatland was panned after Ireland, left Wales on a high. Now on a low after the Chiefs and the latest BIL tour etc? ... swings and roundabouts.

    Coaches like Henry and Jones just acknowledge where they need to get better and keep on learning.

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    • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

      @nostrildamus said in Blues 2022:

      @chris said in Blues 2022:

      @african-monkey said in Blues 2022:

      @chris As @chchfanatic said, your crew knew what to do and fucked it up. No ones fault but your own.

      Totally agree we fucked up,That doesn't turn the comp into a true competition.
      Thats my point not about the Blues not deserving to win.
      My point being the Competition format was seriously flawed

      And yet the Crusaders still entered the comp.
      I did not know they were unaware of the bonus points system or that they would not play every team. So unfair. I feel sorry for them now.
      You do also realize the Boks fans will now seize on your logic to deny the All Blacks one RWC win, don't you? Mark Keohane will just love you.

      I don't give a crap either way, but I do find it amusing many are saying tough shit the Crusaders knew the rules, yet in another thread many (the same many?) lamented the rule that 'awarded' the Cricket World Cup to England. Surely the Black Caps knew the rules so it's tough titties to them too?

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      @crazy-horse Well yeah, it's exactly the same. Again, no one to blame but ourselves for not winning that WC.

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        @billy-tell said in Blues 2022:

        Be interesting to see how this pans out. Left Ireland on a low (yet another ¼ final exit) and several players hinted they were happy to see the back of him (obsessive compulsive attention to detail, snuffed out all creativity, withering post-match criticism of players). Could be a master stroke though.

        He won't be the head coach though, so very unlikely that he will be calling out players in the post-match press conferences. Also, those Irish are very sensitive souls, so I can see how maybe his calling out those guys may have a more detrimental impact

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        @junior said in Blues 2022:

        @billy-tell said in Blues 2022:

        Be interesting to see how this pans out. Left Ireland on a low (yet another ¼ final exit) and several players hinted they were happy to see the back of him (obsessive compulsive attention to detail, snuffed out all creativity, withering post-match criticism of players). Could be a master stroke though.

        He won't be the head coach though, so very unlikely that he will be calling out players in the post-match press conferences. Also, those Irish are very sensitive souls, so I can see how maybe his calling out those guys may have a more detrimental impact

        I dunno about sensitive souls but the Irish sure love a chip on the shoulder.

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          One of my favorite Blues tries. Brilliant by all involved.

          This would be in my top 5 favorite Blues tries. Replay value is high.
          https://streamable.com/863fr4

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          • DiceD Dice

            One of my favorite Blues tries. Brilliant by all involved.

            This would be in my top 5 favorite Blues tries. Replay value is high.
            https://streamable.com/863fr4

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            @dice Braid starts the move, then gets in support to receive the offload from Ice, and then flicks the pass to Atiga while falling. Just class.

            Although Howlett didn't have any involvement in the try, of course he's already in support as an option even though he's coming from the far side of the field.

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            • DiceD Dice

              One of my favorite Blues tries. Brilliant by all involved.

              This would be in my top 5 favorite Blues tries. Replay value is high.
              https://streamable.com/863fr4

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              @dice Haha remember being at that game, sitting in the old terraces with some school mates.

              Gee Toeava was some talent, as was shown in that play. Sadly he left NZ way too early.

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                @dice Haha remember being at that game, sitting in the old terraces with some school mates.

                Gee Toeava was some talent, as was shown in that play. Sadly he left NZ way too early.

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                @african-monkey Toeava put on a show in that game.

                https://streamable.com/511nyb
                https://streamable.com/zrvwc5

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                  Blues instagram account posted a picture of Bryce Heem training with the squad, so assume he is returning next year.

                  Marcel Reneta too.

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                  • TimT Tim

                    Blues instagram account posted a picture of Bryce Heem training with the squad, so assume he is returning next year.

                    Marcel Reneta too.

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                    @tim Also Tanielu Tele'a is there so with Ioane and Heem that is 3 of the five midfielders confirmed. Maybe Tua and Evans to complete the group? Or there is that Wrampling rumor about. They could still pick only 4, carry an extra forward and keep Evans in the wtg.
                    Edit: I doubt he is staying on but if he is, Emoni Narawa has looked more than useful for BOP in the midfield this season.

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                    • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                      @tim Also Tanielu Tele'a is there so with Ioane and Heem that is 3 of the five midfielders confirmed. Maybe Tua and Evans to complete the group? Or there is that Wrampling rumor about. They could still pick only 4, carry an extra forward and keep Evans in the wtg.
                      Edit: I doubt he is staying on but if he is, Emoni Narawa has looked more than useful for BOP in the midfield this season.

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                      @daffy-jaffy said in Blues 2022:

                      @tim Also Tanielu Tele'a is there so with Ioane and Heem that is 3 of the five midfielders confirmed. Maybe Tua and Evans to complete the group? Or there is that Wrampling rumor about. They could still pick only 4, carry an extra forward and keep Evans in the wtg.
                      Edit: I doubt he is staying on but if he is, Emoni Narawa has looked more than useful for BOP in the midfield this season.

                      RTS will b there and heem a winger as for taniielu not sure doesn't look happy

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                        Based on what we know from press releases and the this thread:

                        Props

                        Tu'inukuafe
                        Hodgman
                        Jordan Lay
                        O Tu'ungafasi
                        Laulala
                        Renata

                        Hookers

                        Vikena
                        Eklund
                        Riccitelli

                        Locks

                        Goodhue (healthy?)
                        Darry
                        Romano
                        1x or 0x lock

                        Lock/Loose Forward

                        Suafoa
                        1x or 0x lock/loose forward

                        Loose forwards

                        Choat
                        Segner
                        Papalii
                        Robinson
                        Plumtree
                        Sotutu
                        A Ioane

                        Halfbacks

                        Nock
                        Christie
                        Funaki

                        1st Five Eighths

                        Barrett
                        Perofeta
                        Plummer

                        Midfield

                        T Tele'a
                        R Ioane
                        2x Midfielders

                        Outside Backs

                        Tuivasa-Sheck
                        Clarke
                        M Telea
                        Heem
                        AJ Lam
                        Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                        Sullivan

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                          Might see Plumtree, Evans, and Tua or Wrampling taking up three of those positions in the squad, but lock is tough to pick.

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                            Might see Plumtree, Evans, and Tua or Wrampling taking up three of those positions in the squad, but lock is tough to pick.

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                            @tim They could be needing 4 Locks due to Goodhue having worrying head knock problems again. From the rumors it seems likely Romano and James Tucker will be 2 of them. After them who knows.

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                              Also sounds like we know who some guys who will be at least in the WTS:

                              Josh Fusitua
                              Lini Ekeuasi
                              Cameron Church
                              Cameron Suafoa
                              Tamati Tua
                              Sione Ahio

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                              • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                                @tim They could be needing 4 Locks due to Goodhue having worrying head knock problems again. From the rumors it seems likely Romano and James Tucker will be 2 of them. After them who knows.

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                                @daffy-jaffy said in Blues 2022:

                                Romano

                                Forgot about him.

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                                • TimT Tim

                                  Based on what we know from press releases and the this thread:

                                  Props

                                  Tu'inukuafe
                                  Hodgman
                                  Jordan Lay
                                  O Tu'ungafasi
                                  Laulala
                                  Renata

                                  Hookers

                                  Vikena
                                  Eklund
                                  Riccitelli

                                  Locks

                                  Goodhue (healthy?)
                                  Darry
                                  Romano
                                  1x or 0x lock

                                  Lock/Loose Forward

                                  Suafoa
                                  1x or 0x lock/loose forward

                                  Loose forwards

                                  Choat
                                  Segner
                                  Papalii
                                  Robinson
                                  Plumtree
                                  Sotutu
                                  A Ioane

                                  Halfbacks

                                  Nock
                                  Christie
                                  Funaki

                                  1st Five Eighths

                                  Barrett
                                  Perofeta
                                  Plummer

                                  Midfield

                                  T Tele'a
                                  R Ioane
                                  2x Midfielders

                                  Outside Backs

                                  Tuivasa-Sheck
                                  Clarke
                                  M Telea
                                  Heem
                                  AJ Lam
                                  Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
                                  Sullivan

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                                  @tim I think they will keep James Lay as the 3rd Loosehead. He was rock solid early this season before his injury. They will need his experience early next year until the All Black props return to play post tour. Unless MP lure him away.

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                                    Nisbo confirmed James Tucker back to the Brumbies 😭

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                                        McElroy could be a good signing, at least with the WTG. He is a strong scrummager and mobile. He is still young so has plenty of time to develop into a very good SR player.

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                                          McElroy could be a good signing, at least with the WTG. He is a strong scrummager and mobile. He is still young so has plenty of time to develop into a very good SR player.

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                                          @cgrant Yeah, he was WTG last year, and maybe called into squad? Only committed to rugby after getting his degree, so at 24 he could improve a lot.

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