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All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour

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    1. Tupaea
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    @berniescorner said in AB Vs Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    1. Tupaea

    Fluffed his audition a bit in the first half today.

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      Big motor always better

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        Starting w Weber good idea

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          1. Tupaea
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          @berniescorner said in AB Vs Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

          1. Tupaea

          He wasn't good today and apart from 15 minutes against the Boks, has been pretty average for me. Def. potential for the future, but I don't want him starting against a good side - not least that being exposed at this stage could screw a promising career.

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          • sparkyS sparky

            Looks like it could be a cracker.

            I'd go with

            1. Moody
            2. Taylor
            3. Ofa T
            4. Retallick
            5. S. Whitelock (c)
            6. A. Ioane
            7. D. Papail'i
            8. A. Savea
            9. B. Weber (if fit)
            10. B. Barrett
            11. R. Ioane
            12. D. Havili
            13. ALB
            14. W. Jordan
            15. J. Barrett
            16. D. Coles
            17. Karl T
            18. Laulala
            19. Vaa' i
            20. Blackadder
            21. TJP
            22. R. Mo'unga
            23. Tupaea
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            @sparky said in AB Vs Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

            Looks like it could be a cracker.

            I'd go with

            1. Moody
            2. Taylor
            3. Ofa T
            4. Retallick
            5. S. Whitelock (c)
            6. A. Ioane
            7. D. Papail'i
            8. A. Savea
            9. B. Weber (if fit)
            10. B. Barrett
            11. R. Ioane
            12. D. Havili
            13. ALB
            14. W. Jordan
            15. J. Barrett
            16. D. Coles
            17. Karl T
            18. Laulala
            19. Vaa' i
            20. Blackadder
            21. TJP
            22. R. Mo'unga
            23. Tupaea

            This is harsh for Taukei'aho. I wouldn't push him out of the 23. Coles or Taylor for me, not Coles + Taylor.

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            • C cgrant

              @sparky said in AB Vs Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

              Looks like it could be a cracker.

              I'd go with

              1. Moody
              2. Taylor
              3. Ofa T
              4. Retallick
              5. S. Whitelock (c)
              6. A. Ioane
              7. D. Papail'i
              8. A. Savea
              9. B. Weber (if fit)
              10. B. Barrett
              11. R. Ioane
              12. D. Havili
              13. ALB
              14. W. Jordan
              15. J. Barrett
              16. D. Coles
              17. Karl T
              18. Laulala
              19. Vaa' i
              20. Blackadder
              21. TJP
              22. R. Mo'unga
              23. Tupaea

              This is harsh for Taukei'aho. I wouldn't push him out of the 23. Coles or Taylor for me, not Coles + Taylor.

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              @cgrant I lean towards Coles and Taukei'aho myself.

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                @sparky said in AB Vs Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                Looks like it could be a cracker.

                I'd go with

                1. Moody
                2. Taylor
                3. Ofa T
                4. Retallick
                5. S. Whitelock (c)
                6. A. Ioane
                7. D. Papail'i
                8. A. Savea
                9. B. Weber (if fit)
                10. B. Barrett
                11. R. Ioane
                12. D. Havili
                13. ALB
                14. W. Jordan
                15. J. Barrett
                16. D. Coles
                17. Karl T
                18. Laulala
                19. Vaa' i
                20. Blackadder
                21. TJP
                22. R. Mo'unga
                23. Tupaea

                This is harsh for Taukei'aho. I wouldn't push him out of the 23. Coles or Taylor for me, not Coles + Taylor.

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                @cgrant I want all of Coles experience and cunning in the last 20 against the wily Irish if it is close.

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                  @cgrant I want all of Coles experience and cunning in the last 20 against the wily Irish if it is close.

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                  • sparkyS sparky

                    @berniescorner said in AB Vs Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                    6 Blackadder

                    He's a hard-worker but Akira's power is a rarer gift.

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                    @sparky Ioane has regressed to type in his last couple of tests. Blackadder to start comfortably for me.

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                      I watched the first half of Ire vs Jap, and Ireland were very good. Including an offloading game. If we play like vs Italy, we lose.

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                      • sparkyS sparky

                        Looks like it could be a cracker.

                        I'd go with

                        1. Moody
                        2. Taylor
                        3. Ofa T
                        4. Retallick
                        5. S. Whitelock (c)
                        6. A. Ioane
                        7. D. Papail'i
                        8. A. Savea
                        9. B. Weber (if fit)
                        10. B. Barrett
                        11. R. Ioane
                        12. D. Havili
                        13. ALB
                        14. W. Jordan
                        15. J. Barrett
                        16. D. Coles
                        17. Karl T
                        18. Laulala
                        19. Vaa' i
                        20. Blackadder
                        21. TJP
                        22. R. Mo'unga
                        23. Tupaea
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                        @sparky good side definitely akira at 6 adds more dynaminsm

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                        • sparkyS sparky

                          @cgrant I want all of Coles experience and cunning in the last 20 against the wily Irish if it is close.

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                          @sparky I just think Coles is better.

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                            Weber almost certainly won't play, ABs normally give a week off even if the pass protocols with head knocks.

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                            • sparkyS sparky

                              Looks like it could be a cracker.

                              I'd go with

                              1. Moody
                              2. Taylor
                              3. Ofa T
                              4. Retallick
                              5. S. Whitelock (c)
                              6. A. Ioane
                              7. D. Papail'i
                              8. A. Savea
                              9. B. Weber (if fit)
                              10. B. Barrett
                              11. R. Ioane
                              12. D. Havili
                              13. ALB
                              14. W. Jordan
                              15. J. Barrett
                              16. D. Coles
                              17. Karl T
                              18. Laulala
                              19. Vaa' i
                              20. Blackadder
                              21. TJP
                              22. R. Mo'unga
                              23. Tupaea
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                              @sparky Even without Weber's head knock, I reckon TJ was likely penciled in to start.

                              I think Laulala is almost certain to start and most likely Blackadder.

                              Coles vs Samisoni could go either way.

                              I wonder if they're thinking about a bench spot for Sam Cane?

                              Not sure Tupaea covers enough positions for this team. But, if Reece isn't available, good options are a bit thin.

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                              • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                @sparky Even without Weber's head knock, I reckon TJ was likely penciled in to start.

                                I think Laulala is almost certain to start and most likely Blackadder.

                                Coles vs Samisoni could go either way.

                                I wonder if they're thinking about a bench spot for Sam Cane?

                                Not sure Tupaea covers enough positions for this team. But, if Reece isn't available, good options are a bit thin.

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                                @chris-b said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                @sparky Even without Weber's head knock, I reckon TJ was likely penciled in to start.

                                I think Laulala is almost certain to start and most likely Blackadder.

                                Coles vs Samisoni could go either way.

                                I wonder if they're thinking about a bench spot for Sam Cane?

                                Not sure Tupaea covers enough positions for this team. But, if Reece isn't available, good options are a bit thin.

                                I assume it would come down to who on the field can cover those positions? If Ioane starts at centre it makes it easier to carry Tupaea as there's already wing cover.

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                                  @chris-b said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                  @sparky Even without Weber's head knock, I reckon TJ was likely penciled in to start.

                                  I think Laulala is almost certain to start and most likely Blackadder.

                                  Coles vs Samisoni could go either way.

                                  I wonder if they're thinking about a bench spot for Sam Cane?

                                  Not sure Tupaea covers enough positions for this team. But, if Reece isn't available, good options are a bit thin.

                                  I assume it would come down to who on the field can cover those positions? If Ioane starts at centre it makes it easier to carry Tupaea as there's already wing cover.

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                                  @nepia Sevu hobbled off, so if he's not available we'd be looking at George or Braydon on the wing - if Rieko goes to centre.

                                  From Sparky's team - Jordie would have to cover wing, which isn't a great option in itself - and if he shifted there, presumably Mo'unga would have to go to fullback, unless you did a big re-shuffle and shifted Havili.

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                                    @sparky Even without Weber's head knock, I reckon TJ was likely penciled in to start.

                                    I think Laulala is almost certain to start and most likely Blackadder.

                                    Coles vs Samisoni could go either way.

                                    I wonder if they're thinking about a bench spot for Sam Cane?

                                    Not sure Tupaea covers enough positions for this team. But, if Reece isn't available, good options are a bit thin.

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                                    @chris-b said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                    @sparky Even without Weber's head knock, I reckon TJ was likely penciled in to start.

                                    I think the flow-on effect is that TJP plays more minutes if Weber isn't available.

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                                    • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                      @nepia Sevu hobbled off, so if he's not available we'd be looking at George or Braydon on the wing - if Rieko goes to centre.

                                      From Sparky's team - Jordie would have to cover wing, which isn't a great option in itself - and if he shifted there, presumably Mo'unga would have to go to fullback, unless you did a big re-shuffle and shifted Havili.

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                                      @chris-b said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                      @nepia Sevu hobbled off, so if he's not available we'd be looking at George or Braydon on the wing - if Rieko goes to centre.

                                      From Sparky's team - Jordie would have to cover wing, which isn't a great option in itself - and if he shifted there, presumably Mo'unga would have to go to fullback, unless you did a big re-shuffle and shifted Havili.

                                      I wasn't advocating for Rieko at centre, just mentioning where how Tupaea could theoretically be cover in a team (I hadn't looked at Sparky's team 🙂 ).

                                      I guess it would have to be Jordie back home to his right wing, and yep, it would be either Mo or BB to 15.

                                      They might put DMac on the bench for better cover across the board though. Will piss off some on here but the coaches probably rate him higher than the Fern does.

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                                        @chris-b said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                        @nepia Sevu hobbled off, so if he's not available we'd be looking at George or Braydon on the wing - if Rieko goes to centre.

                                        From Sparky's team - Jordie would have to cover wing, which isn't a great option in itself - and if he shifted there, presumably Mo'unga would have to go to fullback, unless you did a big re-shuffle and shifted Havili.

                                        I wasn't advocating for Rieko at centre, just mentioning where how Tupaea could theoretically be cover in a team (I hadn't looked at Sparky's team 🙂 ).

                                        I guess it would have to be Jordie back home to his right wing, and yep, it would be either Mo or BB to 15.

                                        They might put DMac on the bench for better cover across the board though. Will piss off some on here but the coaches probably rate him higher than the Fern does.

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                                        @nepia DMac is who I am thinking - if Sevu isn't fit.

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                                        • StagS Stag

                                          @sparky Ioane has regressed to type in his last couple of tests. Blackadder to start comfortably for me.

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                                          @stag said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                          @sparky Ioane has regressed to type in his last couple of tests. Blackadder to start comfortably for me.

                                          Hmmm. Didn't stand out against the Boks. Made good impact off the bench v Wales though.

                                          Prefer Akira's size.

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