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All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour

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    1. Tupaea
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    @berniescorner said in AB Vs Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    1. Tupaea

    He wasn't good today and apart from 15 minutes against the Boks, has been pretty average for me. Def. potential for the future, but I don't want him starting against a good side - not least that being exposed at this stage could screw a promising career.

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    • sparkyS sparky

      Looks like it could be a cracker.

      I'd go with

      1. Moody
      2. Taylor
      3. Ofa T
      4. Retallick
      5. S. Whitelock (c)
      6. A. Ioane
      7. D. Papail'i
      8. A. Savea
      9. B. Weber (if fit)
      10. B. Barrett
      11. R. Ioane
      12. D. Havili
      13. ALB
      14. W. Jordan
      15. J. Barrett
      16. D. Coles
      17. Karl T
      18. Laulala
      19. Vaa' i
      20. Blackadder
      21. TJP
      22. R. Mo'unga
      23. Tupaea
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      @sparky said in AB Vs Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

      Looks like it could be a cracker.

      I'd go with

      1. Moody
      2. Taylor
      3. Ofa T
      4. Retallick
      5. S. Whitelock (c)
      6. A. Ioane
      7. D. Papail'i
      8. A. Savea
      9. B. Weber (if fit)
      10. B. Barrett
      11. R. Ioane
      12. D. Havili
      13. ALB
      14. W. Jordan
      15. J. Barrett
      16. D. Coles
      17. Karl T
      18. Laulala
      19. Vaa' i
      20. Blackadder
      21. TJP
      22. R. Mo'unga
      23. Tupaea

      This is harsh for Taukei'aho. I wouldn't push him out of the 23. Coles or Taylor for me, not Coles + Taylor.

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      • C cgrant

        @sparky said in AB Vs Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

        Looks like it could be a cracker.

        I'd go with

        1. Moody
        2. Taylor
        3. Ofa T
        4. Retallick
        5. S. Whitelock (c)
        6. A. Ioane
        7. D. Papail'i
        8. A. Savea
        9. B. Weber (if fit)
        10. B. Barrett
        11. R. Ioane
        12. D. Havili
        13. ALB
        14. W. Jordan
        15. J. Barrett
        16. D. Coles
        17. Karl T
        18. Laulala
        19. Vaa' i
        20. Blackadder
        21. TJP
        22. R. Mo'unga
        23. Tupaea

        This is harsh for Taukei'aho. I wouldn't push him out of the 23. Coles or Taylor for me, not Coles + Taylor.

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        @cgrant I lean towards Coles and Taukei'aho myself.

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        • C cgrant

          @sparky said in AB Vs Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

          Looks like it could be a cracker.

          I'd go with

          1. Moody
          2. Taylor
          3. Ofa T
          4. Retallick
          5. S. Whitelock (c)
          6. A. Ioane
          7. D. Papail'i
          8. A. Savea
          9. B. Weber (if fit)
          10. B. Barrett
          11. R. Ioane
          12. D. Havili
          13. ALB
          14. W. Jordan
          15. J. Barrett
          16. D. Coles
          17. Karl T
          18. Laulala
          19. Vaa' i
          20. Blackadder
          21. TJP
          22. R. Mo'unga
          23. Tupaea

          This is harsh for Taukei'aho. I wouldn't push him out of the 23. Coles or Taylor for me, not Coles + Taylor.

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          @cgrant I want all of Coles experience and cunning in the last 20 against the wily Irish if it is close.

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          • sparkyS sparky

            @cgrant I want all of Coles experience and cunning in the last 20 against the wily Irish if it is close.

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            • sparkyS sparky

              @berniescorner said in AB Vs Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

              6 Blackadder

              He's a hard-worker but Akira's power is a rarer gift.

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              @sparky Ioane has regressed to type in his last couple of tests. Blackadder to start comfortably for me.

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                I watched the first half of Ire vs Jap, and Ireland were very good. Including an offloading game. If we play like vs Italy, we lose.

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                • sparkyS sparky

                  Looks like it could be a cracker.

                  I'd go with

                  1. Moody
                  2. Taylor
                  3. Ofa T
                  4. Retallick
                  5. S. Whitelock (c)
                  6. A. Ioane
                  7. D. Papail'i
                  8. A. Savea
                  9. B. Weber (if fit)
                  10. B. Barrett
                  11. R. Ioane
                  12. D. Havili
                  13. ALB
                  14. W. Jordan
                  15. J. Barrett
                  16. D. Coles
                  17. Karl T
                  18. Laulala
                  19. Vaa' i
                  20. Blackadder
                  21. TJP
                  22. R. Mo'unga
                  23. Tupaea
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                  #15

                  @sparky good side definitely akira at 6 adds more dynaminsm

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                  • sparkyS sparky

                    @cgrant I want all of Coles experience and cunning in the last 20 against the wily Irish if it is close.

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                    @sparky I just think Coles is better.

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                      Weber almost certainly won't play, ABs normally give a week off even if the pass protocols with head knocks.

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                      • sparkyS sparky

                        Looks like it could be a cracker.

                        I'd go with

                        1. Moody
                        2. Taylor
                        3. Ofa T
                        4. Retallick
                        5. S. Whitelock (c)
                        6. A. Ioane
                        7. D. Papail'i
                        8. A. Savea
                        9. B. Weber (if fit)
                        10. B. Barrett
                        11. R. Ioane
                        12. D. Havili
                        13. ALB
                        14. W. Jordan
                        15. J. Barrett
                        16. D. Coles
                        17. Karl T
                        18. Laulala
                        19. Vaa' i
                        20. Blackadder
                        21. TJP
                        22. R. Mo'unga
                        23. Tupaea
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                        @sparky Even without Weber's head knock, I reckon TJ was likely penciled in to start.

                        I think Laulala is almost certain to start and most likely Blackadder.

                        Coles vs Samisoni could go either way.

                        I wonder if they're thinking about a bench spot for Sam Cane?

                        Not sure Tupaea covers enough positions for this team. But, if Reece isn't available, good options are a bit thin.

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                        • Chris B.C Chris B.

                          @sparky Even without Weber's head knock, I reckon TJ was likely penciled in to start.

                          I think Laulala is almost certain to start and most likely Blackadder.

                          Coles vs Samisoni could go either way.

                          I wonder if they're thinking about a bench spot for Sam Cane?

                          Not sure Tupaea covers enough positions for this team. But, if Reece isn't available, good options are a bit thin.

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                          @chris-b said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                          @sparky Even without Weber's head knock, I reckon TJ was likely penciled in to start.

                          I think Laulala is almost certain to start and most likely Blackadder.

                          Coles vs Samisoni could go either way.

                          I wonder if they're thinking about a bench spot for Sam Cane?

                          Not sure Tupaea covers enough positions for this team. But, if Reece isn't available, good options are a bit thin.

                          I assume it would come down to who on the field can cover those positions? If Ioane starts at centre it makes it easier to carry Tupaea as there's already wing cover.

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                          • NepiaN Nepia

                            @chris-b said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                            @sparky Even without Weber's head knock, I reckon TJ was likely penciled in to start.

                            I think Laulala is almost certain to start and most likely Blackadder.

                            Coles vs Samisoni could go either way.

                            I wonder if they're thinking about a bench spot for Sam Cane?

                            Not sure Tupaea covers enough positions for this team. But, if Reece isn't available, good options are a bit thin.

                            I assume it would come down to who on the field can cover those positions? If Ioane starts at centre it makes it easier to carry Tupaea as there's already wing cover.

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                            @nepia Sevu hobbled off, so if he's not available we'd be looking at George or Braydon on the wing - if Rieko goes to centre.

                            From Sparky's team - Jordie would have to cover wing, which isn't a great option in itself - and if he shifted there, presumably Mo'unga would have to go to fullback, unless you did a big re-shuffle and shifted Havili.

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                            • Chris B.C Chris B.

                              @sparky Even without Weber's head knock, I reckon TJ was likely penciled in to start.

                              I think Laulala is almost certain to start and most likely Blackadder.

                              Coles vs Samisoni could go either way.

                              I wonder if they're thinking about a bench spot for Sam Cane?

                              Not sure Tupaea covers enough positions for this team. But, if Reece isn't available, good options are a bit thin.

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                              @chris-b said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                              @sparky Even without Weber's head knock, I reckon TJ was likely penciled in to start.

                              I think the flow-on effect is that TJP plays more minutes if Weber isn't available.

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                              • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                @nepia Sevu hobbled off, so if he's not available we'd be looking at George or Braydon on the wing - if Rieko goes to centre.

                                From Sparky's team - Jordie would have to cover wing, which isn't a great option in itself - and if he shifted there, presumably Mo'unga would have to go to fullback, unless you did a big re-shuffle and shifted Havili.

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                                @chris-b said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                @nepia Sevu hobbled off, so if he's not available we'd be looking at George or Braydon on the wing - if Rieko goes to centre.

                                From Sparky's team - Jordie would have to cover wing, which isn't a great option in itself - and if he shifted there, presumably Mo'unga would have to go to fullback, unless you did a big re-shuffle and shifted Havili.

                                I wasn't advocating for Rieko at centre, just mentioning where how Tupaea could theoretically be cover in a team (I hadn't looked at Sparky's team 🙂 ).

                                I guess it would have to be Jordie back home to his right wing, and yep, it would be either Mo or BB to 15.

                                They might put DMac on the bench for better cover across the board though. Will piss off some on here but the coaches probably rate him higher than the Fern does.

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                                • NepiaN Nepia

                                  @chris-b said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                  @nepia Sevu hobbled off, so if he's not available we'd be looking at George or Braydon on the wing - if Rieko goes to centre.

                                  From Sparky's team - Jordie would have to cover wing, which isn't a great option in itself - and if he shifted there, presumably Mo'unga would have to go to fullback, unless you did a big re-shuffle and shifted Havili.

                                  I wasn't advocating for Rieko at centre, just mentioning where how Tupaea could theoretically be cover in a team (I hadn't looked at Sparky's team 🙂 ).

                                  I guess it would have to be Jordie back home to his right wing, and yep, it would be either Mo or BB to 15.

                                  They might put DMac on the bench for better cover across the board though. Will piss off some on here but the coaches probably rate him higher than the Fern does.

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                                  @nepia DMac is who I am thinking - if Sevu isn't fit.

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                                  • StagS Stag

                                    @sparky Ioane has regressed to type in his last couple of tests. Blackadder to start comfortably for me.

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                                    @stag said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                    @sparky Ioane has regressed to type in his last couple of tests. Blackadder to start comfortably for me.

                                    Hmmm. Didn't stand out against the Boks. Made good impact off the bench v Wales though.

                                    Prefer Akira's size.

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                                    • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                      @sparky Even without Weber's head knock, I reckon TJ was likely penciled in to start.

                                      I think Laulala is almost certain to start and most likely Blackadder.

                                      Coles vs Samisoni could go either way.

                                      I wonder if they're thinking about a bench spot for Sam Cane?

                                      Not sure Tupaea covers enough positions for this team. But, if Reece isn't available, good options are a bit thin.

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                                      @chris-b said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                      @sparky Even without Weber's head knock, I reckon TJ was likely penciled in to start.

                                      I think Laulala is almost certain to start and most likely Blackadder.

                                      Coles vs Samisoni could go either way.

                                      I wonder if they're thinking about a bench spot for Sam Cane?

                                      Not sure Tupaea covers enough positions for this team. But, if Reece isn't available, good options are a bit thin.

                                      Was going to like your post until I got to there.

                                      Yoouuge Cane fan, but he is not yet back up to it.

                                      Dalts, Ardie, Aoane (Blackadder) for me.

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                                        @chris-b said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                        @sparky Even without Weber's head knock, I reckon TJ was likely penciled in to start.

                                        I think Laulala is almost certain to start and most likely Blackadder.

                                        Coles vs Samisoni could go either way.

                                        I wonder if they're thinking about a bench spot for Sam Cane?

                                        Not sure Tupaea covers enough positions for this team. But, if Reece isn't available, good options are a bit thin.

                                        Was going to like your post until I got to there.

                                        Yoouuge Cane fan, but he is not yet back up to it.

                                        Dalts, Ardie, Aoane (Blackadder) for me.

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                                        @booboo said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                        @chris-b said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                        @sparky Even without Weber's head knock, I reckon TJ was likely penciled in to start.

                                        I think Laulala is almost certain to start and most likely Blackadder.

                                        Coles vs Samisoni could go either way.

                                        I wonder if they're thinking about a bench spot for Sam Cane?

                                        Not sure Tupaea covers enough positions for this team. But, if Reece isn't available, good options are a bit thin.

                                        Was going to like your post until I got to their.

                                        Yoouuge Cane fan, but he is not yet back up to it.

                                        Dalts, Ardie, Aoane (Blackadder) for me.

                                        I'm the same, but see no reason to break up the established four unless there's injuries. Give him a full super comp before he nudges someone out.

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                                          In recent games DMac has gone to the wing and JB either stayed at fullback or played there as a sub, like this morning. Tupaea was on the bench vs SA in test 1 so they have trusted him in a big game previously. He's more likely to break a tackle than Bridge. 😉

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