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All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour

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  • A akan004

    I know we all love Whitelock as captain but it was really a terrible decision to go for the penalty when Akira's try was disallowed. Such a dumb decision when we have struggled to get possession all night.

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    @akan004 said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    we have struggled to get possession all night.

    That’s the key point

    Forwards were not as physical as their opposites. Poor kicking by the backs

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    • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

      @stargazer said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

      @yeetyaah BB has been shit at kicking in several games and no one has said he should be dropped from the squad.

      Defend your Crusaders man all you want. BB has at least done other things while Havili has done nothing but fuck it up.

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      @yeetyaah said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

      @stargazer said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

      @yeetyaah BB has been shit at kicking in several games and no one has said he should be dropped from the squad.

      Defend your Crusaders man all you want. BB has at least done other things while Havili has done nothing but fuck it up.

      It’s not the players it’s the coaching,
      Different players in different games same results dicked.
      SA,England,Ireland,Argentina under Fister and they all play much the same way,

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      • menceyM mencey

        David Havili should never be seen again in an All Black Jersey. Absolute Shit .

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        @mencey said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

        David Havili should never be seen again in an All Black Jersey. Absolute Shit .

        12 isn't easy. But it wasn't his night and now I don't think he can be made into a complete 12 . He has perhaps gone backwards or perhaps the defence just got harder.

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        • O Old Samurai Jack

          Headless chook stuff. So is Foster in the firing line again. Definitely not the players, it was the game plan that sucked. Feature of AB teams for a long time!

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          @old-samurai-jack said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

          Headless chook stuff. So is Foster in the firing line again. Definitely not the players, it was the game plan that sucked. Feature of AB teams for a long time!

          Maybe. Irish forwards fucked us though. Dominated up front.

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          • O Old Samurai Jack

            Headless chook stuff. So is Foster in the firing line again. Definitely not the players, it was the game plan that sucked. Feature of AB teams for a long time!

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            @old-samurai-jack said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

            Headless chook stuff. So is Foster in the firing line again. Definitely not the players, it was the game plan that sucked. Feature of AB teams for a long time!

            Yes exactly right.

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            • ChrisC Chris

              @yeetyaah said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

              @stargazer said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

              @yeetyaah BB has been shit at kicking in several games and no one has said he should be dropped from the squad.

              Defend your Crusaders man all you want. BB has at least done other things while Havili has done nothing but fuck it up.

              It’s not the players it’s the coaching,
              Different players in different games same results dicked.
              SA,England,Ireland,Argentina under Fister and they all play much the same way,

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              @chris said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

              @yeetyaah said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

              @stargazer said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

              @yeetyaah BB has been shit at kicking in several games and no one has said he should be dropped from the squad.

              Defend your Crusaders man all you want. BB has at least done other things while Havili has done nothing but fuck it up.

              It’s not the players it’s the coaching,
              Different players in different games same results dicked.
              SA,England,Ireland,Argentina under Fister and they all play much the same way,

              Fister? deliberate?

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              • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                @chris said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                @yeetyaah said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                @stargazer said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                @yeetyaah BB has been shit at kicking in several games and no one has said he should be dropped from the squad.

                Defend your Crusaders man all you want. BB has at least done other things while Havili has done nothing but fuck it up.

                It’s not the players it’s the coaching,
                Different players in different games same results dicked.
                SA,England,Ireland,Argentina under Fister and they all play much the same way,

                Fister? deliberate?

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                @nostrildamus said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                @chris said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                @yeetyaah said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                @stargazer said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                @yeetyaah BB has been shit at kicking in several games and no one has said he should be dropped from the squad.

                Defend your Crusaders man all you want. BB has at least done other things while Havili has done nothing but fuck it up.

                It’s not the players it’s the coaching,
                Different players in different games same results dicked.
                SA,England,Ireland,Argentina under Fister and they all play much the same way,

                Fister? deliberate?

                😎

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                • ChrisC Chris

                  @yeetyaah said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                  @stargazer said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                  @yeetyaah BB has been shit at kicking in several games and no one has said he should be dropped from the squad.

                  Defend your Crusaders man all you want. BB has at least done other things while Havili has done nothing but fuck it up.

                  It’s not the players it’s the coaching,
                  Different players in different games same results dicked.
                  SA,England,Ireland,Argentina under Fister and they all play much the same way,

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                  @chris coaching doesn't make Havili kick like an idiot.

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                    So how does a team with three Kiwis who were never going to be ABs beat us?

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                      Can someone tell me wtf Mooar actually does? Zero creativity in the backline.

                      Didn't Razor sack him when he was assisting him at the Crusaders?

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                      • O Old Samurai Jack

                        Headless chook stuff. So is Foster in the firing line again. Definitely not the players, it was the game plan that sucked. Feature of AB teams for a long time!

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                        @old-samurai-jack said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                        Headless chook stuff. So is Foster in the firing line again. Definitely not the players, it was the game plan that sucked. Feature of AB teams for a long time!

                        Foster was dropping balls and throwing shithouse passes every possession? He left Perenara in to throw the ball to noone but that's about it.

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                          I honestly don't understand why we don't play more pragmatically. I am sick of the "shoot yourself in your own foot" type of rugby.

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                          • boobooB booboo

                            So how does a team with three Kiwis who were never going to be ABs beat us?

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                            @booboo said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                            So how does a team with three Kiwis who were never going to be ABs beat us?

                            Lowe should have been an All Black change my mind

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                              Mind you, Aki >> Havili.

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                              • boobooB booboo

                                So how does a team with three Kiwis who were never going to be ABs beat us?

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                                @booboo said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                So how does a team with three Kiwis who were never going to be ABs beat us?

                                The other 12 players around them helped a bit

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                                • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                                  @booboo said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                  So how does a team with three Kiwis who were never going to be ABs beat us?

                                  Lowe should have been an All Black change my mind

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                                  @yeetyaah said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                  @booboo said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                  So how does a team with three Kiwis who were never going to be ABs beat us?

                                  Lowe should have been an All Black change my mind

                                  Not Lowe. Aki though.

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                                  • TordahT Tordah

                                    @booboo said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                    So how does a team with three Kiwis who were never going to be ABs beat us?

                                    The other 12 players around them helped a bit

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                                    @tordah The coaching, too.

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                                      Will Jordan gives away a penalty. Sums up the night. Not that we really had a chance tonight - unlike the 2019 Semi. No progress since 2019 at all.

                                      Hard questions need to be asked. The argument that we lost a lot of great players and it takes time to rebuild is rubbish. Not blaming Foster for everything, but there's something not quite right mentally with this team

                                      EDIT: Keep the Defence coach - he's earned his keep.

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                                      • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                                        @chris coaching doesn't make Havili kick like an idiot.

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                                        @yeetyaah said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                        @chris coaching doesn't make Havili kick like an idiot.

                                        But it makes Jordie and BB kick all our ball away.
                                        Havilli made one shit kick what about all the other shit kicks are they all shit players no just adhering to a shit game plan again.

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                                          Jordie, Papalii, Blackadder were good. 2nd half disappointing.
                                          Needed to remain patient panicked in 2nd half
                                          BB a big loss

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