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All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour

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  • ChrisC Chris

    @yeetyaah said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    @stargazer said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    @yeetyaah BB has been shit at kicking in several games and no one has said he should be dropped from the squad.

    Defend your Crusaders man all you want. BB has at least done other things while Havili has done nothing but fuck it up.

    It’s not the players it’s the coaching,
    Different players in different games same results dicked.
    SA,England,Ireland,Argentina under Fister and they all play much the same way,

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    @chris said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    @yeetyaah said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    @stargazer said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

    @yeetyaah BB has been shit at kicking in several games and no one has said he should be dropped from the squad.

    Defend your Crusaders man all you want. BB has at least done other things while Havili has done nothing but fuck it up.

    It’s not the players it’s the coaching,
    Different players in different games same results dicked.
    SA,England,Ireland,Argentina under Fister and they all play much the same way,

    Fister? deliberate?

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    • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

      @chris said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

      @yeetyaah said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

      @stargazer said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

      @yeetyaah BB has been shit at kicking in several games and no one has said he should be dropped from the squad.

      Defend your Crusaders man all you want. BB has at least done other things while Havili has done nothing but fuck it up.

      It’s not the players it’s the coaching,
      Different players in different games same results dicked.
      SA,England,Ireland,Argentina under Fister and they all play much the same way,

      Fister? deliberate?

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      Chris
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      @nostrildamus said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

      @chris said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

      @yeetyaah said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

      @stargazer said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

      @yeetyaah BB has been shit at kicking in several games and no one has said he should be dropped from the squad.

      Defend your Crusaders man all you want. BB has at least done other things while Havili has done nothing but fuck it up.

      It’s not the players it’s the coaching,
      Different players in different games same results dicked.
      SA,England,Ireland,Argentina under Fister and they all play much the same way,

      Fister? deliberate?

      😎

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      • ChrisC Chris

        @yeetyaah said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

        @stargazer said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

        @yeetyaah BB has been shit at kicking in several games and no one has said he should be dropped from the squad.

        Defend your Crusaders man all you want. BB has at least done other things while Havili has done nothing but fuck it up.

        It’s not the players it’s the coaching,
        Different players in different games same results dicked.
        SA,England,Ireland,Argentina under Fister and they all play much the same way,

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        @chris coaching doesn't make Havili kick like an idiot.

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          So how does a team with three Kiwis who were never going to be ABs beat us?

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            Can someone tell me wtf Mooar actually does? Zero creativity in the backline.

            Didn't Razor sack him when he was assisting him at the Crusaders?

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            • O Old Samurai Jack

              Headless chook stuff. So is Foster in the firing line again. Definitely not the players, it was the game plan that sucked. Feature of AB teams for a long time!

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              @old-samurai-jack said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

              Headless chook stuff. So is Foster in the firing line again. Definitely not the players, it was the game plan that sucked. Feature of AB teams for a long time!

              Foster was dropping balls and throwing shithouse passes every possession? He left Perenara in to throw the ball to noone but that's about it.

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                I honestly don't understand why we don't play more pragmatically. I am sick of the "shoot yourself in your own foot" type of rugby.

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                • boobooB booboo

                  So how does a team with three Kiwis who were never going to be ABs beat us?

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                  @booboo said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                  So how does a team with three Kiwis who were never going to be ABs beat us?

                  Lowe should have been an All Black change my mind

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                    Mind you, Aki >> Havili.

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                    • boobooB booboo

                      So how does a team with three Kiwis who were never going to be ABs beat us?

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                      @booboo said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                      So how does a team with three Kiwis who were never going to be ABs beat us?

                      The other 12 players around them helped a bit

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                      • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                        @booboo said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                        So how does a team with three Kiwis who were never going to be ABs beat us?

                        Lowe should have been an All Black change my mind

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                        @yeetyaah said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                        @booboo said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                        So how does a team with three Kiwis who were never going to be ABs beat us?

                        Lowe should have been an All Black change my mind

                        Not Lowe. Aki though.

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                        • TordahT Tordah

                          @booboo said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                          So how does a team with three Kiwis who were never going to be ABs beat us?

                          The other 12 players around them helped a bit

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                          @tordah The coaching, too.

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                            Victor Meldrew
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                            Will Jordan gives away a penalty. Sums up the night. Not that we really had a chance tonight - unlike the 2019 Semi. No progress since 2019 at all.

                            Hard questions need to be asked. The argument that we lost a lot of great players and it takes time to rebuild is rubbish. Not blaming Foster for everything, but there's something not quite right mentally with this team

                            EDIT: Keep the Defence coach - he's earned his keep.

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                            • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                              @chris coaching doesn't make Havili kick like an idiot.

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                              wrote on last edited by Chris
                              #865

                              @yeetyaah said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                              @chris coaching doesn't make Havili kick like an idiot.

                              But it makes Jordie and BB kick all our ball away.
                              Havilli made one shit kick what about all the other shit kicks are they all shit players no just adhering to a shit game plan again.

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                                Jordie, Papalii, Blackadder were good. 2nd half disappointing.
                                Needed to remain patient panicked in 2nd half
                                BB a big loss

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                                  Derm McCrum
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                                  Johnny 101.

                                  Classy in his commentary.

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                                    This is I must say the loss we needed.

                                    We have to make changes in the front five and the midfield is a mess.

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                                      Referee was fine overall but that TMO can suck a dick, not every little decision needs to be looked at for 5 minutes you fluffybunny. Also, that was not a YC for Taylor (probably didn't change the result, though).
                                      Jonathan Sexton looks like a perpetual 12 year old whiny little neighbor's boy, David Havili and Rieko Ioane aren't a midfield's butthole.

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                                      • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                        Will Jordan gives away a penalty. Sums up the night. Not that we really had a chance tonight - unlike the 2019 Semi. No progress since 2019 at all.

                                        Hard questions need to be asked. The argument that we lost a lot of great players and it takes time to rebuild is rubbish. Not blaming Foster for everything, but there's something not quite right mentally with this team

                                        EDIT: Keep the Defence coach - he's earned his keep.

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                                        #870

                                        @victor-meldrew said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                        Will Jordan gives away a penalty. Sums up the night. Not that we really had a chance tonight - unlike the 2019 Semi. No progress since 2019 at all.

                                        Hard questions need to be asked. The argument that we lost a lot of great players and it takes time to rebuild is rubbish. Not blaming Foster for everything, but there's something not quite right mentally with this team

                                        Yes not learning from that SF.
                                        4 th loss in 2 years playing the same way.

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                                          No Quarter
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                                          We have some issues with our depth in really key backline positions.

                                          Behind A Smith we have nothing. The cupboard is bare. If he's not playing we struggle.

                                          Mo'unga is not a test 10s asshole. He's been found out time and again against the top sides, just doesn't have what it takes at the top level. With Beauden in the twilight of his career we have noone coming through, again cupboard is bare.

                                          We don't have a test class 12 other than (maybe) ALB. Cupboard is bare.

                                          When our 9-10-12 axis is not test quality then we will get disjointed performances like this as nobody takes control of the game and directs play.

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