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All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour

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  • boobooB Offline
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    Mind you, Aki >> Havili.

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    • boobooB booboo

      So how does a team with three Kiwis who were never going to be ABs beat us?

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      @booboo said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

      So how does a team with three Kiwis who were never going to be ABs beat us?

      The other 12 players around them helped a bit

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      • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

        @booboo said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

        So how does a team with three Kiwis who were never going to be ABs beat us?

        Lowe should have been an All Black change my mind

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        @yeetyaah said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

        @booboo said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

        So how does a team with three Kiwis who were never going to be ABs beat us?

        Lowe should have been an All Black change my mind

        Not Lowe. Aki though.

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        • TordahT Tordah

          @booboo said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

          So how does a team with three Kiwis who were never going to be ABs beat us?

          The other 12 players around them helped a bit

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          @tordah The coaching, too.

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          • Victor MeldrewV Offline
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            Victor Meldrew
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            #864

            Will Jordan gives away a penalty. Sums up the night. Not that we really had a chance tonight - unlike the 2019 Semi. No progress since 2019 at all.

            Hard questions need to be asked. The argument that we lost a lot of great players and it takes time to rebuild is rubbish. Not blaming Foster for everything, but there's something not quite right mentally with this team

            EDIT: Keep the Defence coach - he's earned his keep.

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            • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

              @chris coaching doesn't make Havili kick like an idiot.

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              @yeetyaah said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

              @chris coaching doesn't make Havili kick like an idiot.

              But it makes Jordie and BB kick all our ball away.
              Havilli made one shit kick what about all the other shit kicks are they all shit players no just adhering to a shit game plan again.

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                Jordie, Papalii, Blackadder were good. 2nd half disappointing.
                Needed to remain patient panicked in 2nd half
                BB a big loss

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                  Johnny 101.

                  Classy in his commentary.

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                    This is I must say the loss we needed.

                    We have to make changes in the front five and the midfield is a mess.

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                      Referee was fine overall but that TMO can suck a dick, not every little decision needs to be looked at for 5 minutes you fluffybunny. Also, that was not a YC for Taylor (probably didn't change the result, though).
                      Jonathan Sexton looks like a perpetual 12 year old whiny little neighbor's boy, David Havili and Rieko Ioane aren't a midfield's butthole.

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                      • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                        Will Jordan gives away a penalty. Sums up the night. Not that we really had a chance tonight - unlike the 2019 Semi. No progress since 2019 at all.

                        Hard questions need to be asked. The argument that we lost a lot of great players and it takes time to rebuild is rubbish. Not blaming Foster for everything, but there's something not quite right mentally with this team

                        EDIT: Keep the Defence coach - he's earned his keep.

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                        @victor-meldrew said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                        Will Jordan gives away a penalty. Sums up the night. Not that we really had a chance tonight - unlike the 2019 Semi. No progress since 2019 at all.

                        Hard questions need to be asked. The argument that we lost a lot of great players and it takes time to rebuild is rubbish. Not blaming Foster for everything, but there's something not quite right mentally with this team

                        Yes not learning from that SF.
                        4 th loss in 2 years playing the same way.

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                        • No QuarterN Online
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                          We have some issues with our depth in really key backline positions.

                          Behind A Smith we have nothing. The cupboard is bare. If he's not playing we struggle.

                          Mo'unga is not a test 10s asshole. He's been found out time and again against the top sides, just doesn't have what it takes at the top level. With Beauden in the twilight of his career we have noone coming through, again cupboard is bare.

                          We don't have a test class 12 other than (maybe) ALB. Cupboard is bare.

                          When our 9-10-12 axis is not test quality then we will get disjointed performances like this as nobody takes control of the game and directs play.

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                            Well f*ck. All my three teams lost in the last 12 hours.

                            It's close to 6.30am and I need drink.

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                            • TordahT Tordah

                              @booboo said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                              So how does a team with three Kiwis who were never going to be ABs beat us?

                              The other 12 players around them helped a bit

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                              @tordah said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                              @booboo said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                              So how does a team with three Kiwis who were never going to be ABs beat us?

                              The other 12 players around them helped a bit

                              I’d make it the other 20 around them.

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                              • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

                                Jordie, Papalii, Blackadder were good. 2nd half disappointing.
                                Needed to remain patient panicked in 2nd half
                                BB a big loss

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                                @berniescorner said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                Needed to remain patient panicked in 2nd half

                                As we have done since 2017

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                                • ChrisC Chris

                                  @yeetyaah said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                  @chris coaching doesn't make Havili kick like an idiot.

                                  But it makes Jordie and BB kick all our ball away.
                                  Havilli made one shit kick what about all the other shit kicks are they all shit players no just adhering to a shit game plan again.

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                                  Yeetyaah
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                                  #875

                                  @chris said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                  It's in addition to Havili doing fuck all. At least Jordie and BB did something where as Havili did nothing. He wasn't the only one but it shows he's not the best player for the position.

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                                  • DuluthD Offline
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                                    Duluth
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                                    #876

                                    Ireland has won 3 out of the last 5 Tests against us

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                                    • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

                                      Jordie, Papalii, Blackadder were good. 2nd half disappointing.
                                      Needed to remain patient panicked in 2nd half
                                      BB a big loss

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                                      A Away
                                      akan004
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                                      #877

                                      @berniescorner said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                      Jordie, Papalii, Blackadder were good. 2nd half disappointing.
                                      Needed to remain patient panicked in 2nd half
                                      BB a big loss

                                      Was Blackadder really good? He seemed pretty ineffective to me. High workrate but doesn't dominate in the contact area and is pretty inaccurate at the breakdown.

                                      Ardie's worst game in black this year imo.

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                                      • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                        We have some issues with our depth in really key backline positions.

                                        Behind A Smith we have nothing. The cupboard is bare. If he's not playing we struggle.

                                        Mo'unga is not a test 10s asshole. He's been found out time and again against the top sides, just doesn't have what it takes at the top level. With Beauden in the twilight of his career we have noone coming through, again cupboard is bare.

                                        We don't have a test class 12 other than (maybe) ALB. Cupboard is bare.

                                        When our 9-10-12 axis is not test quality then we will get disjointed performances like this as nobody takes control of the game and directs play.

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                                        Stargazer
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #878

                                        @no-quarter You sure love to hate on Mo'unga. BB has offered nothing more in the big games. Nothing. And people are blaming me for having an eye patch, haha.

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                                        • DuluthD Duluth

                                          Ireland has won 3 out of the last 5 Tests against us

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                                          Derm McCrum
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                                          @duluth said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:

                                          Ireland has won 3 out of the last 5 Tests against us

                                          Was just thinking that. Nothing for 111 years and now 3-2 five years later.

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