All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour
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Will Jordan gives away a penalty. Sums up the night. Not that we really had a chance tonight - unlike the 2019 Semi. No progress since 2019 at all.
Hard questions need to be asked. The argument that we lost a lot of great players and it takes time to rebuild is rubbish. Not blaming Foster for everything, but there's something not quite right mentally with this team
EDIT: Keep the Defence coach - he's earned his keep.
@victor-meldrew said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:
Will Jordan gives away a penalty. Sums up the night. Not that we really had a chance tonight - unlike the 2019 Semi. No progress since 2019 at all.
Hard questions need to be asked. The argument that we lost a lot of great players and it takes time to rebuild is rubbish. Not blaming Foster for everything, but there's something not quite right mentally with this team
Yes not learning from that SF.
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We have some issues with our depth in really key backline positions.
Behind A Smith we have nothing. The cupboard is bare. If he's not playing we struggle.
Mo'unga is not a test 10s asshole. He's been found out time and again against the top sides, just doesn't have what it takes at the top level. With Beauden in the twilight of his career we have noone coming through, again cupboard is bare.
We don't have a test class 12 other than (maybe) ALB. Cupboard is bare.
When our 9-10-12 axis is not test quality then we will get disjointed performances like this as nobody takes control of the game and directs play.
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@booboo said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:
So how does a team with three Kiwis who were never going to be ABs beat us?
The other 12 players around them helped a bit
@tordah said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:
@booboo said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:
So how does a team with three Kiwis who were never going to be ABs beat us?
The other 12 players around them helped a bit
I’d make it the other 20 around them.
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Jordie, Papalii, Blackadder were good. 2nd half disappointing.
Needed to remain patient panicked in 2nd half
BB a big loss@berniescorner said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:
Needed to remain patient panicked in 2nd half
As we have done since 2017
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@yeetyaah said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:
@chris coaching doesn't make Havili kick like an idiot.
But it makes Jordie and BB kick all our ball away.
Havilli made one shit kick what about all the other shit kicks are they all shit players no just adhering to a shit game plan again.@chris said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:
It's in addition to Havili doing fuck all. At least Jordie and BB did something where as Havili did nothing. He wasn't the only one but it shows he's not the best player for the position.
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Jordie, Papalii, Blackadder were good. 2nd half disappointing.
Needed to remain patient panicked in 2nd half
BB a big loss@berniescorner said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:
Jordie, Papalii, Blackadder were good. 2nd half disappointing.
Needed to remain patient panicked in 2nd half
BB a big lossWas Blackadder really good? He seemed pretty ineffective to me. High workrate but doesn't dominate in the contact area and is pretty inaccurate at the breakdown.
Ardie's worst game in black this year imo.
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We have some issues with our depth in really key backline positions.
Behind A Smith we have nothing. The cupboard is bare. If he's not playing we struggle.
Mo'unga is not a test 10s asshole. He's been found out time and again against the top sides, just doesn't have what it takes at the top level. With Beauden in the twilight of his career we have noone coming through, again cupboard is bare.
We don't have a test class 12 other than (maybe) ALB. Cupboard is bare.
When our 9-10-12 axis is not test quality then we will get disjointed performances like this as nobody takes control of the game and directs play.
@no-quarter You sure love to hate on Mo'unga. BB has offered nothing more in the big games. Nothing. And people are blaming me for having an eye patch, haha.
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@duluth said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:
Ireland has won 3 out of the last 5 Tests against us
Was just thinking that. Nothing for 111 years and now 3-2 five years later.
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@chris said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:
It's in addition to Havili doing fuck all. At least Jordie and BB did something where as Havili did nothing. He wasn't the only one but it shows he's not the best player for the position.
@yeetyaah said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:
@chris said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:
It's in addition to Havili doing fuck all. At least Jordie and BB did something where as Havili did nothing. He wasn't the only one but it shows he's not the best player for the position.
Not my point game plan is fucked we learned nothing in 2 years we keep losing to the Ireland, SA England even Argentina
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This for me, is one of our darkest days.
We were absolutely pummeled. Ireland should have won by 50.
We showed zero grit, zero game plan and tried to show boat our way through it.
And the best part? Seeing fucking Lowe, Gibson Park jumping out of their fucking skins.
I am so fucking angry right now.
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@no-quarter You sure love to hate on Mo'unga. BB has offered nothing more in the big games. Nothing. And people are blaming me for having an eye patch, haha.
@stargazer said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:
@no-quarter You sure love to hate on Mo'unga. BB has offered nothing more in the big games. Nothing. And people are blaming me for having an eye patch, haha.
I've never said Beauden is a test quality 10, and also acknowledge he is in the twilight of his career. But even so he's a damn sight better than Mo'unga in the big tests. The problem is our cupboard is bare at 10, we simply don't have a test quality 10.
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Good win to Ireland.... Played the team and officials well.
ABs were poor and lacked any leadership in the halves
TJP was solid on D but actually a real handbrake to getting any fast ball, slow passing, slow options, shitty exits... No urgency at all.Sam and BBBR are on the wane?
RI is not a centres arsehole as far as positional play.
Overall we didn't value possession enough, didn't adapt to officiating, the game could have been stolen right to the end...
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@no-quarter You sure love to hate on Mo'unga. BB has offered nothing more in the big games. Nothing. And people are blaming me for having an eye patch, haha.
@stargazer said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:
@no-quarter You sure love to hate on Mo'unga. BB has offered nothing more in the big games. Nothing. And people are blaming me for having an eye patch, haha.
Neither BB or Ritchie have impressed me in tight games. FWIW, they sem uncomfortable with the game plan - whatever it's supposed to be.
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@stargazer said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:
@no-quarter You sure love to hate on Mo'unga. BB has offered nothing more in the big games. Nothing. And people are blaming me for having an eye patch, haha.
Neither BB or Ritchie have impressed me in tight games. FWIW, they sem uncomfortable with the game plan - whatever it's supposed to be.
@victor-meldrew We need someone like Robertson. He knows how to get the best out of players.
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The Irish 6 was awesome. That is what akira and blackadder should aspire to.
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Holy shit Super Rugby team bias everywhere. I'm going to bed, Havili, Mo'unga and Reece were shit.
