All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour
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Is there a sport that includes just throwing your arms up all the time? Irish would be great at it.
@yeetyaah said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:
Is there a sport that includes just throwing your arms up all the time? Irish would be great at it.
It's called the "Mexican Wave.... at World Cup Semi-Finals".
Edit: shit - just finished watching the game, and realise the above might look like "sour grapes".
Assuredly - not so - that was written when I still thought we might win that.
As to the result - well done Ireland... throroughly deserved, definitely the better team.
Except Johnny Sexwithoutcock - fuck him. What a fluffybunny. Or, should I say, "He's a bit of a mouthy fluffybunny, isn't he?".
I liked the ref telling the waterboys and what-not to get the fuck off the field near the end, as well as (usually) telling Sexless to shut-the-fuck-up. But - not always, and without any teeth to backup the bark.
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@sparky said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:
Not sure either Whitelock or Retallick are going to be first-choice by the time of the next RWC.
not so sure.
Both coming back from offseasons; Retallick in particular I back ot get back to fitness. Super next year should be interesting to see who really gets galvanised by this.
in some ways, this is the post-nut clarity of losing so many legends in 2015. The dropoff has been massive
@nzzp said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:
@sparky said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:
Not sure either Whitelock or Retallick are going to be first-choice by the time of the next RWC.
not so sure.
Both coming back from offseasons; Retallick in particular I back ot get back to fitness. Super next year should be interesting to see who really gets galvanised by this.
in some ways, this is the post-nut clarity of losing so many legends in 2015. The dropoff has been massive
It’s been too slow - we needed this to happen sooner so that it was only one World Cup that got written off. The re build won’t happen until 2024 now
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@chris said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:
The constant fuck up here is the Coaching staff.
The only team we seem to have a good game plan against is Australia.
Our defence is passive, our forward positioning, use, and selection is poor, and our attack and structure haven't changed for about 8 years.
We are poorly coached, and have the same problems as every other year.
Totall agree , it’s going to bad until after the WC by the looks of things,
This 4 year cycle between WCs wasted.Our loose trio (Ardie excepted) have promise but are young and inexperienced. Tight 5 are not the force they once were. We lack a dominant controlling 10 and our midfield is a puzzle yet to be solved. Lean days for ABs supporters right now
We could have Dan Carter there and we'd still be farked. What options do our 10s have? They get zero time or space. So they can hold on and get smashed, pop it to a forward to get smashed behind the gain line or throw it wide and always risk an intercept. BB and RM would have blown their load at the service and options Sexton had.
@rancid-schnitzel that’s why they need forwards running off the rucks for about 5 minutes (hyperbole) until we make inroads then the 1st five can have the ball.
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We've been here many times before. AB teams that were great with ball in hand against lightweight opposition who folded when presented with a physical committed opponent. We need to get harder, more direct before we spin it wide. Time for a little ugly ball again
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What probably fucks me off the most is Samisoni is exactly the type of player you need against a predictably aggressive Irish pack with an organised rush defense. Hits hard in the tackle, makes metres with every carry up the guts and has been in superb form to boot. And we... leave him out of the 23 altogether?
@no-quarter I agree but the problem is there’s were a couple times when he came on he seem to be alone and was isolated. Not his problem but I think our ineffectual pack does not know how to graft around the rucks. I would have picked him.
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@broughie said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:
@nevorian I understand how good smith is but behind our pack he would have struggled.
I think he would have organised the pack more, demanded more of them
@nevorian yep, him getting 5% more from them and quicker service will alter things immensely for our attack and fringe defence
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Watching back now.
Based on the ~100 minutes of two games I've watched, the combination of TMO and broadcaster aren't painting a very good picture of impartiality.
TJ quoted in Stuff "Other teams will look at the way Ireland played, look at how many phases they went through and think, ‘man, if we can take the ball away from the All Blacks we make it harder for them to win football games’"
Jesus, ya think? This has only been the common theme of every defeat suffered by this team for the last five years. Thanks for finally noticing, please be sure to pass your intel on to Fozzie.
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Watching back now.
Based on the ~100 minutes of two games I've watched, the combination of TMO and broadcaster aren't painting a very good picture of impartiality.
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@nta been happening for a while now , some broadcasters milk it big time , they know they will get crowd reaction.
@steven-harris said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:
@nta been happening for a while now , some broadcasters milk it big time , they know they will get crowd reaction.
Seem to remember it happening to us in NZ as well - try to ?Speight? called back after it was rulled DHP had run Savea off his line.
Only took the Sky OB director three replays on the big screen to get the TMO involved
In all seriousness, it isn't a good look for anyone and shows that replays are a double edged sword. Against England, Samu gets done after a replay for a high tackle.
Ok.
The week before at Murrayfield, Alaalatoa got done for his clumsy cleanout. But in the ball carrier action right before he got done, there was a clear high tackle from Scotland, pretty much identical to Samu. No action taken.
I don't want the game to become grid iron.
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Lowe and JGP are Maori. Not white guys with Irish grannies but Maori, facing the haka and winning. Fucking hilarious. This is the future the NZRU chose with Foster.
@mofitzy_ said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:
Lowe and JGP are Maori. Not white guys with Irish grannies but Maori, facing the haka and winning. Fucking hilarious. This is the future the NZRU chose with Foster.
I still can’t get over a guy called Sione Tuipulotu playing for Scotland.
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I am surprised that, unusually, I am unable to find many positives in an AB performance. Thankfully there was at least one - WJ's try. Another is the opportunity to learn from ones mistakes.
The biggest is the Springbok disease of excessive and aimless kicking. The ABs have punished them time and again for it so why afford Ireland the same opportunity?
It does not hurt to have too much grunt up front in a test match or any rugby game for that matter. Against any serious opposition Ardie must start.
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@nevorian yep, him getting 5% more from them and quicker service will alter things immensely for our attack and fringe defence
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:
@nevorian yep, him getting 5% more from them and quicker service will alter things immensely for our attack and fringe defence
It is all about taking the opportunity and backing yourselves more,, on a couple of occasions there whereTJ decided to kick on turnovers where I think Smith would have counterattacked
Also I liked how DP set up the CT try, he was probably expecting to come around the line out and run into contact, but saw the gap and made an early decision to back himself and accelerate and knowing that there would be support with him, a sign that he is growing into his role more
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:
Ireland played like a Schmidt-coached and drilled team to my ignorant eyes but with more steel in the attack and defense. Is that also the opinion of the Irish fans?
IMO Farrell is an excellent defense coach. Which is a bit surprising given how his son tackles.No. They stopped playing the Schmidt way at the end of the last 6 nations against England. Farrell tore up the Schmidt script and got them playing with pace and moving the ball more.
@profitius said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:
Ireland played like a Schmidt-coached and drilled team to my ignorant eyes but with more steel in the attack and defense. Is that also the opinion of the Irish fans?
IMO Farrell is an excellent defense coach. Which is a bit surprising given how his son tackles.No. They stopped playing the Schmidt way at the end of the last 6 nations against England. Farrell tore up the Schmidt script and got them playing with pace and moving the ball more.
Thanks, I did notice they made our forwards look like 2nd rate plodders.
