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  • SnowyS Snowy

    @crucial said in Aura watch:

    @snowy said in Aura watch:

    @crucial said in Aura watch:

    An aura only exists if someone mentions it.

    Very philosophical. Could an unspoken Aura exist at all?

    Like a tree falling in the woods and no one to hear it...

    I always thought that was the root of the humour in the whole 'aura' thing (or are we taking it seriously now?)

    The only time 'aura' gets mentioned is when someone is telling us it has gone.

    I don't think that we take it seriously, but it seems that other teams / players might.

    Second bit - Very philosophical again - can something that apparently doesn't exist then be gone, and how many times can you lose something that you already lost the year before (for 20+ years)?

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    @snowy said in Aura watch:

    @crucial said in Aura watch:

    @snowy said in Aura watch:

    @crucial said in Aura watch:

    An aura only exists if someone mentions it.

    Very philosophical. Could an unspoken Aura exist at all?

    Like a tree falling in the woods and no one to hear it...

    I always thought that was the root of the humour in the whole 'aura' thing (or are we taking it seriously now?)

    The only time 'aura' gets mentioned is when someone is telling us it has gone.

    I don't think that we take it seriously, but it seems that other teams / players might.

    Second bit - Very philosophical again - can something that apparently doesn't exist then be gone, and how many times can you lose something that you already lost the year before (for 20+ years)?

    Now you are talking Mystique. Laura's porn double.

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      Oh noes, Phil Gifford is at it too

      Phil Gifford: Is it possible the All Blacks aura has gone??

      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/phil-gifford-is-it-possible-the-all-blacks-aura-has-gone/LBREJTAYNHKKITIGO5BBLBSYNE/

      I've no idea what it says, pay walled and obviously stupid

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      • M Machpants

        Oh noes, Phil Gifford is at it too

        Phil Gifford: Is it possible the All Blacks aura has gone??

        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/phil-gifford-is-it-possible-the-all-blacks-aura-has-gone/LBREJTAYNHKKITIGO5BBLBSYNE/

        I've no idea what it says, pay walled and obviously stupid

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        @machpants said in Aura watch:

        Oh noes, Phil Gifford is at it too

        Phil Gifford: Is it possible the All Blacks aura has gone??

        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/phil-gifford-is-it-possible-the-all-blacks-aura-has-gone/LBREJTAYNHKKITIGO5BBLBSYNE/

        I've no idea what it says, pay walled and obviously stupid

        Something something Mo'unga is the greatest 10 to play the game, something something Cullen Grace is the best new young player since DC, something something the Crusaders injury replacement prop who played 2 minutes of a warm up game should be in the ABs.

        From my reading of his articles back in the day I think the above is a good approximation.

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        • NepiaN Nepia

          @machpants said in Aura watch:

          Oh noes, Phil Gifford is at it too

          Phil Gifford: Is it possible the All Blacks aura has gone??

          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/phil-gifford-is-it-possible-the-all-blacks-aura-has-gone/LBREJTAYNHKKITIGO5BBLBSYNE/

          I've no idea what it says, pay walled and obviously stupid

          Something something Mo'unga is the greatest 10 to play the game, something something Cullen Grace is the best new young player since DC, something something the Crusaders injury replacement prop who played 2 minutes of a warm up game should be in the ABs.

          From my reading of his articles back in the day I think the above is a good approximation.

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          @nepia said in Aura watch:

          @machpants said in Aura watch:

          Oh noes, Phil Gifford is at it too

          Phil Gifford: Is it possible the All Blacks aura has gone??

          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/phil-gifford-is-it-possible-the-all-blacks-aura-has-gone/LBREJTAYNHKKITIGO5BBLBSYNE/

          I've no idea what it says, pay walled and obviously stupid

          Something something Mo'unga is the greatest 10 to play the game, something something Cullen Grace is the best new young player since DC, something something the Crusaders injury replacement prop who played 2 minutes of a warm up game should be in the ABs.

          From my reading of his articles back in the day I think the above is a good approximation.

          Maybe aura gone.. if they'd had Deans... or if they have Robinson it'd still be there?

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          • NepiaN Nepia

            @machpants said in Aura watch:

            Oh noes, Phil Gifford is at it too

            Phil Gifford: Is it possible the All Blacks aura has gone??

            https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/phil-gifford-is-it-possible-the-all-blacks-aura-has-gone/LBREJTAYNHKKITIGO5BBLBSYNE/

            I've no idea what it says, pay walled and obviously stupid

            Something something Mo'unga is the greatest 10 to play the game, something something Cullen Grace is the best new young player since DC, something something the Crusaders injury replacement prop who played 2 minutes of a warm up game should be in the ABs.

            From my reading of his articles back in the day I think the above is a good approximation.

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            @nepia said in Aura watch:

            @machpants said in Aura watch:

            Oh noes, Phil Gifford is at it too

            Phil Gifford: Is it possible the All Blacks aura has gone??

            https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/phil-gifford-is-it-possible-the-all-blacks-aura-has-gone/LBREJTAYNHKKITIGO5BBLBSYNE/

            I've no idea what it says, pay walled and obviously stupid

            Something something Mo'unga is the greatest 10 to play the game, something something Cullen Grace is the best new young player since DC, something something the Crusaders injury replacement prop who played 2 minutes of a warm up game should be in the ABs.

            From my reading of his articles back in the day I think the above is a good approximation.

            I almost see a pattern...

            Something something Crusaders10 is the greatest 10 to play the game, something something CrusadersLooseForward is the best new young player since pastCrusaders10, something something the Crusaders injury replacement prop who played 2 minutes of a warm up game should be in the ABs.

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            • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

              @nepia said in Aura watch:

              @machpants said in Aura watch:

              Oh noes, Phil Gifford is at it too

              Phil Gifford: Is it possible the All Blacks aura has gone??

              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/phil-gifford-is-it-possible-the-all-blacks-aura-has-gone/LBREJTAYNHKKITIGO5BBLBSYNE/

              I've no idea what it says, pay walled and obviously stupid

              Something something Mo'unga is the greatest 10 to play the game, something something Cullen Grace is the best new young player since DC, something something the Crusaders injury replacement prop who played 2 minutes of a warm up game should be in the ABs.

              From my reading of his articles back in the day I think the above is a good approximation.

              I almost see a pattern...

              Something something Crusaders10 is the greatest 10 to play the game, something something CrusadersLooseForward is the best new young player since pastCrusaders10, something something the Crusaders injury replacement prop who played 2 minutes of a warm up game should be in the ABs.

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              @nostrildamus said in Aura watch:

              @nepia said in Aura watch:

              @machpants said in Aura watch:

              Oh noes, Phil Gifford is at it too

              Phil Gifford: Is it possible the All Blacks aura has gone??

              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/phil-gifford-is-it-possible-the-all-blacks-aura-has-gone/LBREJTAYNHKKITIGO5BBLBSYNE/

              I've no idea what it says, pay walled and obviously stupid

              Something something Mo'unga is the greatest 10 to play the game, something something Cullen Grace is the best new young player since DC, something something the Crusaders injury replacement prop who played 2 minutes of a warm up game should be in the ABs.

              From my reading of his articles back in the day I think the above is a good approximation.

              I almost see a pattern...

              Something something Crusaders10 is the greatest 10 to play the game, something something CrusadersLooseForward is the best new young player since pastCrusaders10, something something the Crusaders injury replacement prop who played 2 minutes of a warm up game should be in the ABs.

              In the 80s you can replace all of the Crusaders with Auckland.

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                https://twitter.com/tmurphyNZ/status/1426685249191178241?s=19

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                  Aura hanging out with Alan Quinlan on Newstalk ZB.

                  https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-demand/week-on-demand/

                  14:15 @ 10mins30. (Admittedly in reply to a question about Mystique by Davis).

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                  • M Machpants

                    @nepia said in Aura watch:

                    @machpants said in Aura watch:

                    Oh noes, Phil Gifford is at it too

                    Phil Gifford: Is it possible the All Blacks aura has gone??

                    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/phil-gifford-is-it-possible-the-all-blacks-aura-has-gone/LBREJTAYNHKKITIGO5BBLBSYNE/

                    I've no idea what it says, pay walled and obviously stupid

                    Something something Mo'unga is the greatest 10 to play the game, something something Cullen Grace is the best new young player since DC, something something the Crusaders injury replacement prop who played 2 minutes of a warm up game should be in the ABs.

                    From my reading of his articles back in the day I think the above is a good approximation.

                    Maybe aura gone.. if they'd had Deans... or if they have Robinson it'd still be there?

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                    #505

                    @machpants said in Aura watch:

                    @nepia said in Aura watch:

                    @machpants said in Aura watch:

                    Oh noes, Phil Gifford is at it too

                    Phil Gifford: Is it possible the All Blacks aura has gone??

                    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/phil-gifford-is-it-possible-the-all-blacks-aura-has-gone/LBREJTAYNHKKITIGO5BBLBSYNE/

                    I've no idea what it says, pay walled and obviously stupid

                    Something something Mo'unga is the greatest 10 to play the game, something something Cullen Grace is the best new young player since DC, something something the Crusaders injury replacement prop who played 2 minutes of a warm up game should be in the ABs.

                    From my reading of his articles back in the day I think the above is a good approximation.

                    Maybe aura gone.. if they'd had Deans... or if they have Robinson it'd still be there?

                    It gets loaned out from time to time, normally for a fee of a few free Guinesses and a bit of Craic

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                      @machpants said in Aura watch:

                      @nepia said in Aura watch:

                      @machpants said in Aura watch:

                      Oh noes, Phil Gifford is at it too

                      Phil Gifford: Is it possible the All Blacks aura has gone??

                      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/phil-gifford-is-it-possible-the-all-blacks-aura-has-gone/LBREJTAYNHKKITIGO5BBLBSYNE/

                      I've no idea what it says, pay walled and obviously stupid

                      Something something Mo'unga is the greatest 10 to play the game, something something Cullen Grace is the best new young player since DC, something something the Crusaders injury replacement prop who played 2 minutes of a warm up game should be in the ABs.

                      From my reading of his articles back in the day I think the above is a good approximation.

                      Maybe aura gone.. if they'd had Deans... or if they have Robinson it'd still be there?

                      It gets loaned out from time to time, normally for a fee of a few free Guinesses and a bit of Craic

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                      @nevorian said in Aura watch:

                      @machpants said in Aura watch:

                      @nepia said in Aura watch:

                      @machpants said in Aura watch:

                      Oh noes, Phil Gifford is at it too

                      Phil Gifford: Is it possible the All Blacks aura has gone??

                      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/phil-gifford-is-it-possible-the-all-blacks-aura-has-gone/LBREJTAYNHKKITIGO5BBLBSYNE/

                      I've no idea what it says, pay walled and obviously stupid

                      Something something Mo'unga is the greatest 10 to play the game, something something Cullen Grace is the best new young player since DC, something something the Crusaders injury replacement prop who played 2 minutes of a warm up game should be in the ABs.

                      From my reading of his articles back in the day I think the above is a good approximation.

                      Maybe aura gone.. if they'd had Deans... or if they have Robinson it'd still be there?

                      It gets loaned out from time to time, normally for a fee of a few free Guinesses and a bit of Craic

                      She...

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                        Fading aura alert...

                        https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/nov/19/all-blacks-visit-to-paris-promises-stellar-contrast-to-lions-stale-summer

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                          Aura is currently on long term leave but has checked in to touch base.

                          https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2022/11/rugby-former-wallabies-nrl-star-matt-rogers-adamant-all-blacks-aura-not-lost.html?fbclid=IwAR3fB4QK8aOR35VzG59invScsRb_9lI1huztCN0aSJhKrXdhcv9DYCnYr2g

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                            Aura is currently on long term leave but has checked in to touch base.

                            https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2022/11/rugby-former-wallabies-nrl-star-matt-rogers-adamant-all-blacks-aura-not-lost.html?fbclid=IwAR3fB4QK8aOR35VzG59invScsRb_9lI1huztCN0aSJhKrXdhcv9DYCnYr2g

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                            @mikedogz said in Aura watch:

                            Aura is currently on long term leave but has checked in to touch base.

                            https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2022/11/rugby-former-wallabies-nrl-star-matt-rogers-adamant-all-blacks-aura-not-lost.html?fbclid=IwAR3fB4QK8aOR35VzG59invScsRb_9lI1huztCN0aSJhKrXdhcv9DYCnYr2g

                            Foster has well and truly buried the aura. But she can rise again, but there is a lot of defeated enemies that need to be sacrificed to get us there.

                            Gregor Paul has a payable article on rugby pass lamenting is demise under Foster

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                              What is this so called aura? If there is such a thing it isonly a thing that could be earnt or lost over a huge amount of time. It's a press thing as far as I can see.

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                                What is this so called aura? If there is such a thing it isonly a thing that could be earnt or lost over a huge amount of time. It's a press thing as far as I can see.

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                                @Dan54 said in Aura watch:

                                What is this so called aura? If there is such a thing it isonly a thing that could be earnt or lost over a huge amount of time. It's a press thing as far as I can see.

                                It is not a press thing at all, but a real effect that opposition teams had when facing the ABs. Not now, because Foster has fucked it with his pathetic record, but it was real. For example

                                ...have this thing about their invincibility in my head. I always looked on the All Blacks as the best team in the world, so you automatically assume that they have the best players from 1 to 15.

                                Joe Marler during England’s tour of NZ in 2014

                                The reason this thread is here is because (NH especiallY) have been saying the aura is dead for years. And then getting smashed. It has been amusing. Now that Foster is in charge and it is us that is getting smashed by NH teams, the aura is not so funny anymore RIP

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                                • M Machpants

                                  @mikedogz said in Aura watch:

                                  Aura is currently on long term leave but has checked in to touch base.

                                  https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2022/11/rugby-former-wallabies-nrl-star-matt-rogers-adamant-all-blacks-aura-not-lost.html?fbclid=IwAR3fB4QK8aOR35VzG59invScsRb_9lI1huztCN0aSJhKrXdhcv9DYCnYr2g

                                  Foster has well and truly buried the aura. But she can rise again, but there is a lot of defeated enemies that need to be sacrificed to get us there.

                                  Gregor Paul has a payable article on rugby pass lamenting is demise under Foster

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                                  @Machpants said in Aura watch:

                                  @mikedogz said in Aura watch:

                                  Aura is currently on long term leave but has checked in to touch base.

                                  https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2022/11/rugby-former-wallabies-nrl-star-matt-rogers-adamant-all-blacks-aura-not-lost.html?fbclid=IwAR3fB4QK8aOR35VzG59invScsRb_9lI1huztCN0aSJhKrXdhcv9DYCnYr2g

                                  Foster has well and truly buried the aura. But she can rise again, but there is a lot of defeated enemies that need to be sacrificed to get us there.

                                  Gregor Paul has a payable article on rugby pass lamenting is demise under Foster

                                  Young fella.

                                  She is not "the" Aura. And she certainly requires an initial capital.

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                                  • boobooB booboo

                                    @Machpants said in Aura watch:

                                    @mikedogz said in Aura watch:

                                    Aura is currently on long term leave but has checked in to touch base.

                                    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2022/11/rugby-former-wallabies-nrl-star-matt-rogers-adamant-all-blacks-aura-not-lost.html?fbclid=IwAR3fB4QK8aOR35VzG59invScsRb_9lI1huztCN0aSJhKrXdhcv9DYCnYr2g

                                    Foster has well and truly buried the aura. But she can rise again, but there is a lot of defeated enemies that need to be sacrificed to get us there.

                                    Gregor Paul has a payable article on rugby pass lamenting is demise under Foster

                                    Young fella.

                                    She is not "the" Aura. And she certainly requires an initial capital.

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                                    @booboo said in Aura watch:

                                    She is not "the" Aura. And she certainly requires an initial capital.

                                    She certainly was spelled with a capital when she married Taika Waititi.

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                                      @Dan54 said in Aura watch:

                                      What is this so called aura? If there is such a thing it isonly a thing that could be earnt or lost over a huge amount of time. It's a press thing as far as I can see.

                                      It is not a press thing at all, but a real effect that opposition teams had when facing the ABs. Not now, because Foster has fucked it with his pathetic record, but it was real. For example

                                      ...have this thing about their invincibility in my head. I always looked on the All Blacks as the best team in the world, so you automatically assume that they have the best players from 1 to 15.

                                      Joe Marler during England’s tour of NZ in 2014

                                      The reason this thread is here is because (NH especiallY) have been saying the aura is dead for years. And then getting smashed. It has been amusing. Now that Foster is in charge and it is us that is getting smashed by NH teams, the aura is not so funny anymore RIP

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                                      @Machpants said in Aura watch:

                                      @Dan54 said in Aura watch:

                                      What is this so called aura? If there is such a thing it isonly a thing that could be earnt or lost over a huge amount of time. It's a press thing as far as I can see.

                                      It is not a press thing at all, but a real effect that opposition teams had when facing the ABs. Not now, because Foster has fucked it with his pathetic record, but it was real. For example

                                      ...have this thing about their invincibility in my head. I always looked on the All Blacks as the best team in the world, so you automatically assume that they have the best players from 1 to 15.

                                      Joe Marler during England’s tour of NZ in 2014

                                      The reason this thread is here is because (NH especiallY) have been saying the aura is dead for years. And then getting smashed. It has been amusing. Now that Foster is in charge and it is us that is getting smashed by NH teams, the aura is not so funny anymore RIP

                                      Yep, what I saying this so called Aura seems to be there or not depeding who you read, there was always same talk of it disappearing in 70s etc, I remember Phil Kearns, and Jon Eales saying they had never found any Aura, just a team they could beat when they played well.
                                      Hell it used to be supposedly almost impossible to win at Cardiff Arms park when the Welsh crowd sung , same with winning on high veldt in SA, same as Haka giving ABs an advantage, I heard more from media etc about it than players,, ok some players will talk about it when doing a build up to tests to feed the media and make ABs over confident, but ABs have alway and will always have very strong teams, and like now not so strong and there is all there is too it. I bet at times when this so called Aura was at it's prime we would have probably had 7-9 players named in any world XV, now we would be lucky to have 3? We just going through trough like we do every now and then after have an all time great team, and we now have teams that are going through peaks.
                                      I must admit perhaps one of reasons I say it crap is I myself have never really seen any team in any sport that isn't beatable and that could just be personal thing, but I would never respect an opposition player that said any team he was playing had an aura.

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                                        Well, let's close the thread.
                                        Boring old common-sense/missing-the-point has spoken.

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                                          Well, let's close the thread.
                                          Boring old common-sense/missing-the-point has spoken.

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                                          @Kruse said in Aura watch:

                                          Well, let's close the thread.
                                          Boring old common-sense/missing-the-point has spoken.

                                          Or change thread title to auréole? (I'm guessing that is French for 'aura'?)

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