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    #2392

    https://twitter.com/AndrewBrownhil/status/1454502537965473796?t=vc24N6D331R6WByKFxQHfQ&s=19

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      #2393

      Noticed how the AB forwards swarmed against Wales. Multiple pick up and goes, off rapid and effective cleans. Made yards, and as important doesn’t allow defensive line to set.

      I loved it!

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        lots of records will be set this year by the 2021 ABs:
        https://www.allblacks.com/news/all-blacks-close-in-on-all-time-try-scoring-record/

        Their 89 tries scored to date are only three behind the world record of 92 tries scored by Argentina in 2003.
        
        Should the All Blacks score another 12 tries on the tour, their 101 tries would break the world record average tries per Test set by the World Cup-winning 1987 All Blacks of 6.71 tries per game.
        
        If they score another 31 points on the tour they will break the record for most points in a calendar year. That is 658, set by South Africa in 2007 when they played 17 Tests en route to their Rugby World Cup win.
        
        Should they convert three more tries in 2021 they will break the world record for most Test conversions in a calendar year. That stands at 62 by South Africa in 2007.
        
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        • WairauW Wairau

          lots of records will be set this year by the 2021 ABs:
          https://www.allblacks.com/news/all-blacks-close-in-on-all-time-try-scoring-record/

          Their 89 tries scored to date are only three behind the world record of 92 tries scored by Argentina in 2003.
          
          Should the All Blacks score another 12 tries on the tour, their 101 tries would break the world record average tries per Test set by the World Cup-winning 1987 All Blacks of 6.71 tries per game.
          
          If they score another 31 points on the tour they will break the record for most points in a calendar year. That is 658, set by South Africa in 2007 when they played 17 Tests en route to their Rugby World Cup win.
          
          Should they convert three more tries in 2021 they will break the world record for most Test conversions in a calendar year. That stands at 62 by South Africa in 2007.
          
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          #2395

          @wairau said in All Blacks 2021:

          lots of records will be set this year by the 2021 ABs:

          Clearly down to Foster's coaching

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          • nzzpN nzzp

            @wairau said in All Blacks 2021:

            lots of records will be set this year by the 2021 ABs:

            Clearly down to Foster's coaching

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            #2396

            @nzzp said in All Blacks 2021:

            @wairau said in All Blacks 2021:

            lots of records will be set this year by the 2021 ABs:

            Clearly down to Foster's coaching

            Downvote.

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            • P pakman

              @nzzp said in All Blacks 2021:

              @wairau said in All Blacks 2021:

              lots of records will be set this year by the 2021 ABs:

              Clearly down to Foster's coaching

              Downvote.

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              booboo
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              #2397

              @pakman said in All Blacks 2021:

              @nzzp said in All Blacks 2021:

              @wairau said in All Blacks 2021:

              lots of records will be set this year by the 2021 ABs:

              Clearly down to Foster's coaching

              Downvote.

              Yeah, I wish we had a different coach and played badly, at least we'd have different coach..

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              • P pakman

                @nzzp said in All Blacks 2021:

                @wairau said in All Blacks 2021:

                lots of records will be set this year by the 2021 ABs:

                Clearly down to Foster's coaching

                Downvote.

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                #2398

                @pakman said in All Blacks 2021:

                @nzzp said in All Blacks 2021:

                @wairau said in All Blacks 2021:

                lots of records will be set this year by the 2021 ABs:

                Clearly down to Foster's coaching

                Downvote.

                I'm not a fan of these volume based records ... schedule three extra tests against Namibia, Georgia and Cook Islands and you'll smash these numbers. But you won't be a better rugby team.

                This team has deep flaws. SA exposed them. Aus almost exposed them. our forwards are still the big question mark for me; good forwards and a rush defence = potential to beat the ABs

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                  #2399

                  I'm not a huge fan either. But if they exist ABs should be at the top of them when it comes to tries and points!

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                    #2400

                    For next year, we need a specialist 13 at 13. If Goodhue is back to his best, he is a lock as starting 13. I think ALB is a better 13 than 12, which is unfortunate. So he'd be my bench option covering 12 and 13. We haven't seen enough of Tupaea, but he looks promising. Reiko can play 11 with emergency centre cover. Havili can be retained as a squad member who covers a lot of positions but his last few matches have been pretty dreadful as a 12 in any case. His best position is probably 15, but he's not better than Jordie.

                    The Irish will bring Aki, Henshaw and Ringrose, who are all good midfielders, so it will be a decent challenge.

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                    • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                      @chris really all he gt right was the idea we dont have a 12...then it goes off the rails

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                      @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2021:

                      @chris really all he gt right was the idea we dont have a 12...then it goes off the rails

                      There is more than that in the Article he got right amongst some BS.

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                        #2402

                        https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-blacks-side-full-of-character-could-use-some-more-talent-in-search-of-new-identity/

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                        • TimT Tim

                          https://www.rugbypass.com/news/all-blacks-side-full-of-character-could-use-some-more-talent-in-search-of-new-identity/

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                          antipodean
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                          #2403

                          @tim Ben Smith reads the Fern.

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                            kiwi_expat
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                            #2404

                            This article basically sums up what I've stated previously.

                            Razor's hugely innovative systems get the most out of relatively limited players - Foster then takes these same limited players & substitutes them directly into his (much less effective..) systems and people wonder why it doesn't exactly work out seamlessly.

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                              #2405

                              I sort of agree. But there have been plenty of “power” backs who are just average rugby players and they too get found out at the top level.

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                                I've never thought of Goodhue as an undersized midfielder

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                                  #2407

                                  Peter Umaga Jensen should have been picked despite an average Super rugby season.

                                  I believe Hansen did that several times with players he deemed to be good fits for the ABs.

                                  There's still time.

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                                    Peter Umaga Jensen should have been picked despite an average Super rugby season.

                                    I believe Hansen did that several times with players he deemed to be good fits for the ABs.

                                    There's still time.

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                                    #2408

                                    @frank said in All Blacks 2021:

                                    Peter Umaga Jensen should have been picked despite an average Super rugby season.

                                    I believe Hansen did that several times with players he deemed to be good fits for the ABs.

                                    There's still time.

                                    I not convinced PUJ is a test player. We are a bit week at 12, but I think Tupaea has a better look doesn't he? PUJ hasn't had a good NPC either.

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                                    • Dan54D Dan54

                                      @frank said in All Blacks 2021:

                                      Peter Umaga Jensen should have been picked despite an average Super rugby season.

                                      I believe Hansen did that several times with players he deemed to be good fits for the ABs.

                                      There's still time.

                                      I not convinced PUJ is a test player. We are a bit week at 12, but I think Tupaea has a better look doesn't he? PUJ hasn't had a good NPC either.

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                                      @dan54 said in All Blacks 2021:

                                      @frank said in All Blacks 2021:

                                      Peter Umaga Jensen should have been picked despite an average Super rugby season.

                                      I believe Hansen did that several times with players he deemed to be good fits for the ABs.

                                      There's still time.

                                      I not convinced PUJ is a test player. We are a bit week at 12, but I think Tupaea has a better look doesn't he? PUJ hasn't had a good NPC either.

                                      What have you been watching? He’s been the shining light in a crap Lions team and has somehow managed to still run up the metres on attack. He’s been quite dominant actually.

                                      He had a fantastic 2020 campaign including dominating his clashes with his AB rivals, but fell out of favour with Holland even though he was clearly the most consistent midfielder in the Hurricanes. Which bewildered most of us.

                                      I think if he gets another crack at test footy he will shine.

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                                      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                        @dan54 said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        @frank said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        Peter Umaga Jensen should have been picked despite an average Super rugby season.

                                        I believe Hansen did that several times with players he deemed to be good fits for the ABs.

                                        There's still time.

                                        I not convinced PUJ is a test player. We are a bit week at 12, but I think Tupaea has a better look doesn't he? PUJ hasn't had a good NPC either.

                                        What have you been watching? He’s been the shining light in a crap Lions team and has somehow managed to still run up the metres on attack. He’s been quite dominant actually.

                                        He had a fantastic 2020 campaign including dominating his clashes with his AB rivals, but fell out of favour with Holland even though he was clearly the most consistent midfielder in the Hurricanes. Which bewildered most of us.

                                        I think if he gets another crack at test footy he will shine.

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                                        @canes4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        @dan54 said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        @frank said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        Peter Umaga Jensen should have been picked despite an average Super rugby season.

                                        I believe Hansen did that several times with players he deemed to be good fits for the ABs.

                                        There's still time.

                                        I not convinced PUJ is a test player. We are a bit week at 12, but I think Tupaea has a better look doesn't he? PUJ hasn't had a good NPC either.

                                        What have you been watching? He’s been the shining light in a crap Lions team and has somehow managed to still run up the metres on attack. He’s been quite dominant actually.

                                        He had a fantastic 2020 campaign including dominating his clashes with his AB rivals, but fell out of favour with Holland even though he was clearly the most consistent midfielder in the Hurricanes. Which bewildered most of us.

                                        I think if he gets another crack at test footy he will shine.

                                        Holland is a dope. He and the board should be shown the door. That is all.

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                                          I am reserving judgement on QT until after the next Super season. While he has done OK with the ABs I wonder if he has done anything more with the ABs than someone like Nankivell would have achieved. I don't yet see what sets QT apart from other options.

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