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2021 British & Irish Lions tour to SA

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  • antipodeanA antipodean

    @majorrage said in 2021 British & Irish Lions tour to SA:

    @oompb said in 2021 British & Irish Lions tour to SA:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E83OWdtWEAMyVs4?format=jpg&name=900x900

    Boring stat

    Not really a surprise that one. The SA defence at the moment is probably the best I have ever seen.

    Can we steal their defence coach?

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    junior
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    @antipodean said in 2021 British & Irish Lions tour to SA:

    @majorrage said in 2021 British & Irish Lions tour to SA:

    @oompb said in 2021 British & Irish Lions tour to SA:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E83OWdtWEAMyVs4?format=jpg&name=900x900

    Boring stat

    Not really a surprise that one. The SA defence at the moment is probably the best I have ever seen.

    Can we steal their defence coach?

    She’s also their physio

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      @antipodean said in 2021 British & Irish Lions tour to SA:

      @majorrage said in 2021 British & Irish Lions tour to SA:

      @oompb said in 2021 British & Irish Lions tour to SA:

      https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E83OWdtWEAMyVs4?format=jpg&name=900x900

      Boring stat

      Not really a surprise that one. The SA defence at the moment is probably the best I have ever seen.

      Can we steal their defence coach?

      She’s also their physio

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      @junior said in 2021 British & Irish Lions tour to SA:

      @antipodean said in 2021 British & Irish Lions tour to SA:

      @majorrage said in 2021 British & Irish Lions tour to SA:

      @oompb said in 2021 British & Irish Lions tour to SA:

      https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E83OWdtWEAMyVs4?format=jpg&name=900x900

      Boring stat

      Not really a surprise that one. The SA defence at the moment is probably the best I have ever seen.

      Can we steal their defence coach?

      She’s also their physio

      Isn't their physio really really hot?

      https://twitter.com/Rene_Naylor/photo

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      • MajorPomM MajorPom

        @junior said in 2021 British & Irish Lions tour to SA:

        @antipodean said in 2021 British & Irish Lions tour to SA:

        @majorrage said in 2021 British & Irish Lions tour to SA:

        @oompb said in 2021 British & Irish Lions tour to SA:

        https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E83OWdtWEAMyVs4?format=jpg&name=900x900

        Boring stat

        Not really a surprise that one. The SA defence at the moment is probably the best I have ever seen.

        Can we steal their defence coach?

        She’s also their physio

        Isn't their physio really really hot?

        https://twitter.com/Rene_Naylor/photo

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        @majorrage said in 2021 British & Irish Lions tour to SA:

        @junior said in 2021 British & Irish Lions tour to SA:

        @antipodean said in 2021 British & Irish Lions tour to SA:

        @majorrage said in 2021 British & Irish Lions tour to SA:

        @oompb said in 2021 British & Irish Lions tour to SA:

        https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E83OWdtWEAMyVs4?format=jpg&name=900x900

        Boring stat

        Not really a surprise that one. The SA defence at the moment is probably the best I have ever seen.

        Can we steal their defence coach?

        She’s also their physio

        Isn't their physio really really hot?

        https://twitter.com/Rene_Naylor/photo

        No

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          https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/300457060/rassie-erasmus-found-guilty-of-misconduct-handed-suspension-by-world-rugby

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          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

            https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/300457060/rassie-erasmus-found-guilty-of-misconduct-handed-suspension-by-world-rugby

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            @kiwimurph classic World Rugby; 6 months later, a consequence.

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            • nzzpN nzzp

              @kiwimurph classic World Rugby; 6 months later, a consequence.

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              Machpants
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              @nzzp said in 2021 British & Irish Lions tour to SA:

              @kiwimurph classic World Rugby; 6 months later, a consequence.

              Pathetic, should have been done that weekend. But at least he got done, the turd

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                So I just spent two hours reading the decision.

                What an absolute clusterfuck. Everyone is going to be unhappy with this. They basically found Erasmus guilty of lynching Nice Berry and then giving him a slap with a wet rag.

                I hope to go into it in more detail, but the punishment is too light while the the factual findings are, largely, over the top.

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                  So I just spent two hours reading the decision.

                  What an absolute clusterfuck. Everyone is going to be unhappy with this. They basically found Erasmus guilty of lynching Nice Berry and then giving him a slap with a wet rag.

                  I hope to go into it in more detail, but the punishment is too light while the the factual findings are, largely, over the top.

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                  @sidbarret said in 2021 British & Irish Lions tour to SA:

                  What an absolute clusterfuck. Everyone is going to be unhappy with this.

                  ... and the worst thing is, on the face of it he achieved what he set out to - to influence the refereeing teams! I hate that our game has become a sport where influencing the ref through media and other pressure is as important as actually playing.

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                  • nzzpN nzzp

                    @sidbarret said in 2021 British & Irish Lions tour to SA:

                    What an absolute clusterfuck. Everyone is going to be unhappy with this.

                    ... and the worst thing is, on the face of it he achieved what he set out to - to influence the refereeing teams! I hate that our game has become a sport where influencing the ref through media and other pressure is as important as actually playing.

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                    SidBarret
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                    @nzzp an open door for whataboutism that I am just going to walk past...

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                      SidBarret
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                      Any way - if a certain Irish barrister and Twitter personality that may or may not support Munster still lurks here - I'd love to hear his view on the matter.

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                        @nzzp an open door for whataboutism that I am just going to walk past...

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                        Kirwan
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                        @sidbarret said in 2021 British & Irish Lions tour to SA:

                        @nzzp an open door for whataboutism that I am just going to walk past...

                        It's wrong however does it, and I agree Hanson had a poor record of this as well.

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                        • nzzpN nzzp

                          @kiwimurph classic World Rugby; 6 months later, a consequence.

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                          antipodean
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                          @nzzp said in 2021 British & Irish Lions tour to SA:

                          @kiwimurph classic World Rugby; 6 months later, a consequence.

                          A ban from a sport that isn't played in the SH during those two months..? Not much of a consequence is it?

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                            What effect will it have?

                            I believe the practice of pre-game meetings between referees and teams was stopped because it turned into a shit fight of accusations.

                            Now this.

                            My first thought when the video was released, and not watching it but looking at the commentary around it:

                            "World Cup Champions or World Class Victims?"

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                            • NTAN NTA

                              What effect will it have?

                              I believe the practice of pre-game meetings between referees and teams was stopped because it turned into a shit fight of accusations.

                              Now this.

                              My first thought when the video was released, and not watching it but looking at the commentary around it:

                              "World Cup Champions or World Class Victims?"

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                              Catogrande
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                              @nta said in 2021 British & Irish Lions tour to SA:

                              What effect will it have?

                              I believe the practice of pre-game meetings between referees and teams was stopped because it turned into a shit fight of accusations.

                              Now this.

                              My first thought when the video was released, and not watching it but looking at the commentary around it:

                              "World Cup Champions or World Class Victims?"

                              World rugby really needs to address this and the larger problem of referee abuse and influencing. There needs to be meaningful sanction or we’ll be heading further down the soccer route.

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                              • antipodeanA antipodean

                                @nzzp said in 2021 British & Irish Lions tour to SA:

                                @kiwimurph classic World Rugby; 6 months later, a consequence.

                                A ban from a sport that isn't played in the SH during those two months..? Not much of a consequence is it?

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                                @antipodean said in 2021 British & Irish Lions tour to SA:

                                @nzzp said in 2021 British & Irish Lions tour to SA:

                                @kiwimurph classic World Rugby; 6 months later, a consequence.

                                A ban from a sport that isn't played in the SH during those two months..? Not much of a consequence is it?

                                also a ban on match-day involvement till September 30 next year.

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                                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                  @antipodean said in 2021 British & Irish Lions tour to SA:

                                  @nzzp said in 2021 British & Irish Lions tour to SA:

                                  @kiwimurph classic World Rugby; 6 months later, a consequence.

                                  A ban from a sport that isn't played in the SH during those two months..? Not much of a consequence is it?

                                  also a ban on match-day involvement till September 30 next year.

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                                  antipodean
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                                  @kiwimurph Even then everything up until the match day. Presumably he can sit in the stands and have a runner passing messages at halftime?

                                  He should just be banned from the sport for five years.

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                                  • antipodeanA antipodean

                                    @kiwimurph Even then everything up until the match day. Presumably he can sit in the stands and have a runner passing messages at halftime?

                                    He should just be banned from the sport for five years.

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                                    stodders
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                                    @antipodean said in 2021 British & Irish Lions tour to SA:

                                    @kiwimurph Even then everything up until the match day. Presumably he can sit in the stands and have a runner passing messages at halftime?

                                    He should just be banned from the sport for five years.

                                    Or sit at home in his underpants with a full comms link into Nienaber 😜

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                                      @antipodean said in 2021 British & Irish Lions tour to SA:

                                      @kiwimurph Even then everything up until the match day. Presumably he can sit in the stands and have a runner passing messages at halftime?

                                      He should just be banned from the sport for five years.

                                      Or sit at home in his underpants with a full comms link into Nienaber 😜

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                                      @stodders said in 2021 British & Irish Lions tour to SA:

                                      @antipodean said in 2021 British & Irish Lions tour to SA:

                                      @kiwimurph Even then everything up until the match day. Presumably he can sit in the stands and have a runner passing messages at halftime?

                                      He should just be banned from the sport for five years.

                                      Or sit at home in his underpants with a full comms link into Nienaber 😜

                                      And this is the other problem, right? Nienaber looks like a puppet while Rassie is anywhere near the field. EDIT: or hooked up via FaceTime 🙂

                                      Add in the constant invasion of the pitch by support staff - and I noticed the Wallabies Assistant Coaches have been out there a fair bit as well - and you're starting to get into Subbies Competition Rules where coaches can't enter the arena except during half time.

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                                      • KirwanK Kirwan

                                        @sidbarret said in 2021 British & Irish Lions tour to SA:

                                        @nzzp an open door for whataboutism that I am just going to walk past...

                                        It's wrong however does it, and I agree Hanson had a poor record of this as well.

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                                        SidBarret
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                                        @kirwan all teams do it, a point admitted in the ruling.

                                        There is a discussion on "the line", and it moving during the course of tour, which is one of the weaker parts of the decision.

                                        There is a difference between whataboutism and asking for consistency. Whataboutism is about dismissing the argument because you the other person is a hypocrite whose opinion is invalid. Consistency is about defining what the rule is.

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                                          Machpants
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                                          There’s a big difference to trying to game the referee via the media, and blackmail. RE was found guilty of blackmail, yet get’s this pathetic punishment. It should be a life ban, or very long term. Fucking blackmail!

                                          1. threatened a match official that unless a requested meeting took place, he would publish footage containing clips criticising the match official’s performance and then making good on that threat; published or permitted to be published the Erasmus Video containing numerous comments that were either abusive, insulting and/or offensive to match officials;
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