All Blacks 2021
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Pot calling the kettle black here. Bidnowell has a long sequence of click bait articles with no commonsense at all and now he is suddenly the messiah of rugby journalism. I wonder if the coaches of South Africa France and England are getting as much grief for losing so many test matches this year. Each match we lost we were well in with not too long to go and with a crucial player error or two lost the opportunity to go ahead or to close out. There are indeed plenty of work ons and maybe Razor might come into the coaching group to add some new ideas.
But have we all really sunk to this level of vitriol where we are all looking at every opportunity to put the knife in to the NZRU and ABs if we don't get our way.@arhs said in All Blacks 2021:
Pot calling the kettle black here. Bidnowell has a long sequence of click bait articles with no commonsense at all and now he is suddenly the messiah of rugby journalism. I wonder if the coaches of South Africa France and England are getting as much grief for losing so many test matches this year. Each match we lost we were well in with not too long to go and with a crucial player error or two lost the opportunity to go ahead or to close out. There are indeed plenty of work ons and maybe Razor might come into the coaching group to add some new ideas.
But have we all really sunk to this level of vitriol where we are all looking at every opportunity to put the knife in to the NZRU and ABs if we don't get our way.Agree Bidwell pretty much seems to hate just about anything to do with rugby in NZ, but to his credit he's one of the few sports journalists not captured by the "SR Aotearoa is the greatest rugby competition on the planet" echo chamber.
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@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2021:
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That video might be the perfect summary of how the All Blacks have become the so-called "flat track bullies".
An absurd number of tries against Tonga, 1/4 of the year's tries scored in the first 2 warm-up games of the season... 1/3 in the first 3.
<fishing emojicon> George-bloody-Bridge scoring tries, for chrissake </fishing emojicon>
And then... yeah, shit gets a bit harder.
Yeah, that's to be expected somewhat, but...
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:
@arhs said in All Blacks 2021:
I wonder if the coaches of South Africa France and England are getting as much grief for losing so many test matches this year.
Probably but only 2 of that sides have played the ABs (who were briefly no.1) and both sides have beaten us.
The English no doubt console themselves with thinking we are too scared to face them.As to vitriol, I think it could get much, much, worse.
I'm just pleased we didn't play Scotland so we could keep one of our unbeaten records.
@kirwan said in All Blacks 2021:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:
@arhs said in All Blacks 2021:
I wonder if the coaches of South Africa France and England are getting as much grief for losing so many test matches this year.
Probably but only 2 of that sides have played the ABs (who were briefly no.1) and both sides have beaten us.
The English no doubt console themselves with thinking we are too scared to face them.As to vitriol, I think it could get much, much, worse.
I'm just pleased we didn't play Scotland so we could keep one of our unbeaten records.
That is probably going straight to the Scottish dressing room for RWC2023
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@kirwan said in All Blacks 2021:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:
@arhs said in All Blacks 2021:
I wonder if the coaches of South Africa France and England are getting as much grief for losing so many test matches this year.
Probably but only 2 of that sides have played the ABs (who were briefly no.1) and both sides have beaten us.
The English no doubt console themselves with thinking we are too scared to face them.As to vitriol, I think it could get much, much, worse.
I'm just pleased we didn't play Scotland so we could keep one of our unbeaten records.
That is probably going straight to the Scottish dressing room for RWC2023
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:
@kirwan said in All Blacks 2021:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:
@arhs said in All Blacks 2021:
I wonder if the coaches of South Africa France and England are getting as much grief for losing so many test matches this year.
Probably but only 2 of that sides have played the ABs (who were briefly no.1) and both sides have beaten us.
The English no doubt console themselves with thinking we are too scared to face them.As to vitriol, I think it could get much, much, worse.
I'm just pleased we didn't play Scotland so we could keep one of our unbeaten records.
That is probably going straight to the Scottish dressing room for RWC2023
Like that makes any difference. I assume they try win whenever they play us, no matter what pithy comments fans make online.
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:
@kirwan said in All Blacks 2021:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:
@arhs said in All Blacks 2021:
I wonder if the coaches of South Africa France and England are getting as much grief for losing so many test matches this year.
Probably but only 2 of that sides have played the ABs (who were briefly no.1) and both sides have beaten us.
The English no doubt console themselves with thinking we are too scared to face them.As to vitriol, I think it could get much, much, worse.
I'm just pleased we didn't play Scotland so we could keep one of our unbeaten records.
That is probably going straight to the Scottish dressing room for RWC2023
Like that makes any difference. I assume they try win whenever they play us, no matter what pithy comments fans make online.
@kirwan said in All Blacks 2021:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:
@kirwan said in All Blacks 2021:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:
@arhs said in All Blacks 2021:
I wonder if the coaches of South Africa France and England are getting as much grief for losing so many test matches this year.
Probably but only 2 of that sides have played the ABs (who were briefly no.1) and both sides have beaten us.
The English no doubt console themselves with thinking we are too scared to face them.As to vitriol, I think it could get much, much, worse.
I'm just pleased we didn't play Scotland so we could keep one of our unbeaten records.
That is probably going straight to the Scottish dressing room for RWC2023
Like that makes any difference. I assume they try win whenever they play us, no matter what pithy comments fans make online.
Naaaaa in 2007 they rested a bunch of players against the ABs to keep them fresh for Italy the next week.
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@kirwan said in All Blacks 2021:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:
@kirwan said in All Blacks 2021:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:
@arhs said in All Blacks 2021:
I wonder if the coaches of South Africa France and England are getting as much grief for losing so many test matches this year.
Probably but only 2 of that sides have played the ABs (who were briefly no.1) and both sides have beaten us.
The English no doubt console themselves with thinking we are too scared to face them.As to vitriol, I think it could get much, much, worse.
I'm just pleased we didn't play Scotland so we could keep one of our unbeaten records.
That is probably going straight to the Scottish dressing room for RWC2023
Like that makes any difference. I assume they try win whenever they play us, no matter what pithy comments fans make online.
Naaaaa in 2007 they rested a bunch of players against the ABs to keep them fresh for Italy the next week.
@mn5 said in All Blacks 2021:
@kirwan said in All Blacks 2021:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:
@kirwan said in All Blacks 2021:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:
@arhs said in All Blacks 2021:
I wonder if the coaches of South Africa France and England are getting as much grief for losing so many test matches this year.
Probably but only 2 of that sides have played the ABs (who were briefly no.1) and both sides have beaten us.
The English no doubt console themselves with thinking we are too scared to face them.As to vitriol, I think it could get much, much, worse.
I'm just pleased we didn't play Scotland so we could keep one of our unbeaten records.
That is probably going straight to the Scottish dressing room for RWC2023
Like that makes any difference. I assume they try win whenever they play us, no matter what pithy comments fans make online.
Naaaaa in 2007 they rested a bunch of players against the ABs to rest them for Italy the next week.
... and wrecked our warmup for the quarters. Which we then borked by going to the south of france to clear our heads. Yeah, that worked.
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@mn5 said in All Blacks 2021:
@kirwan said in All Blacks 2021:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:
@kirwan said in All Blacks 2021:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:
@arhs said in All Blacks 2021:
I wonder if the coaches of South Africa France and England are getting as much grief for losing so many test matches this year.
Probably but only 2 of that sides have played the ABs (who were briefly no.1) and both sides have beaten us.
The English no doubt console themselves with thinking we are too scared to face them.As to vitriol, I think it could get much, much, worse.
I'm just pleased we didn't play Scotland so we could keep one of our unbeaten records.
That is probably going straight to the Scottish dressing room for RWC2023
Like that makes any difference. I assume they try win whenever they play us, no matter what pithy comments fans make online.
Naaaaa in 2007 they rested a bunch of players against the ABs to rest them for Italy the next week.
... and wrecked our warmup for the quarters. Which we then borked by going to the south of france to clear our heads. Yeah, that worked.
@nzzp said in All Blacks 2021:
@mn5 said in All Blacks 2021:
@kirwan said in All Blacks 2021:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:
@kirwan said in All Blacks 2021:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:
@arhs said in All Blacks 2021:
I wonder if the coaches of South Africa France and England are getting as much grief for losing so many test matches this year.
Probably but only 2 of that sides have played the ABs (who were briefly no.1) and both sides have beaten us.
The English no doubt console themselves with thinking we are too scared to face them.As to vitriol, I think it could get much, much, worse.
I'm just pleased we didn't play Scotland so we could keep one of our unbeaten records.
That is probably going straight to the Scottish dressing room for RWC2023
Like that makes any difference. I assume they try win whenever they play us, no matter what pithy comments fans make online.
Naaaaa in 2007 they rested a bunch of players against the ABs to rest them for Italy the next week.
... and wrecked our warmup for the quarters. Which we then borked by going to the south of france to clear our heads. Yeah, that worked.
Scots had a great win over the Eye ties though. Best part of that was winning a bet against a bloke of Italian descent that I worked with back then. I then gave up gambling cos it’s a mugs game.
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@nzzp said in All Blacks 2021:
@mn5 said in All Blacks 2021:
@kirwan said in All Blacks 2021:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:
@kirwan said in All Blacks 2021:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:
@arhs said in All Blacks 2021:
I wonder if the coaches of South Africa France and England are getting as much grief for losing so many test matches this year.
Probably but only 2 of that sides have played the ABs (who were briefly no.1) and both sides have beaten us.
The English no doubt console themselves with thinking we are too scared to face them.As to vitriol, I think it could get much, much, worse.
I'm just pleased we didn't play Scotland so we could keep one of our unbeaten records.
That is probably going straight to the Scottish dressing room for RWC2023
Like that makes any difference. I assume they try win whenever they play us, no matter what pithy comments fans make online.
Naaaaa in 2007 they rested a bunch of players against the ABs to rest them for Italy the next week.
... and wrecked our warmup for the quarters. Which we then borked by going to the south of france to clear our heads. Yeah, that worked.
Scots had a great win over the Eye ties though. Best part of that was winning a bet against a bloke of Italian descent that I worked with back then. I then gave up gambling cos it’s a mugs game.
@mn5 said in All Blacks 2021:
@nzzp said in All Blacks 2021:
@mn5 said in All Blacks 2021:
@kirwan said in All Blacks 2021:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:
@kirwan said in All Blacks 2021:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:
@arhs said in All Blacks 2021:
I wonder if the coaches of South Africa France and England are getting as much grief for losing so many test matches this year.
Probably but only 2 of that sides have played the ABs (who were briefly no.1) and both sides have beaten us.
The English no doubt console themselves with thinking we are too scared to face them.As to vitriol, I think it could get much, much, worse.
I'm just pleased we didn't play Scotland so we could keep one of our unbeaten records.
That is probably going straight to the Scottish dressing room for RWC2023
Like that makes any difference. I assume they try win whenever they play us, no matter what pithy comments fans make online.
Naaaaa in 2007 they rested a bunch of players against the ABs to rest them for Italy the next week.
... and wrecked our warmup for the quarters. Which we then borked by going to the south of france to clear our heads. Yeah, that worked.
Scots had a great win over the Eye ties though. Best part of that was winning a bet against a bloke of Italian descent that I worked with back then. I then gave up gambling cos it’s a mugs game.
course ya did...
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Well this, from my FB feed, should trigger a few people....
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Well this, from my FB feed, should trigger a few people....
@victor-meldrew said in All Blacks 2021:
Well this, from my FB feed, should trigger a few people....
2022 will be different. Ireland 3 times, SA in SA, England, Scotland, Wales, off session France maybe.
Omicron permitting 🥺
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@victor-meldrew said in All Blacks 2021:
Well this, from my FB feed, should trigger a few people....
2022 will be different. Ireland 3 times, SA in SA, England, Scotland, Wales, off session France maybe.
Omicron permitting 🥺
@machpants said in All Blacks 2021:
2022 will be different. Ireland 3 times, SA in SA, England, Scotland, Wales, off session France maybe.
Omicron permitting 🥺I just worry Foster will win all of them as this would trigger multiple posts on how Jesus Chrobertson or another favourite coach would have won with twice the margin and with the AB "B" team....
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@machpants said in All Blacks 2021:
2022 will be different. Ireland 3 times, SA in SA, England, Scotland, Wales, off session France maybe.
Omicron permitting 🥺I just worry Foster will win all of them as this would trigger multiple posts on how Jesus Chrobertson or another favourite coach would have won with twice the margin and with the AB "B" team....
@victor-meldrew said in All Blacks 2021:
@machpants said in All Blacks 2021:
2022 will be different. Ireland 3 times, SA in SA, England, Scotland, Wales, off session France maybe.
Omicron permitting 🥺I just worry Foster will win all of them as this would trigger multiple posts on how Jesus Chrobertson or another favourite coach would have won with twice the margin and with the AB "B" team....
No it really wouldn't, most everyone would be stoked if we had improved sufficiently for that to happen. The stick Foster is getting is due to his shit results, obtained in a shit manner, and his shit history with the Chiefs which meant that plenty of people couldnt understand his appointment and expected shit results and are frustrated to have been proved correct.
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@victor-meldrew said in All Blacks 2021:
@machpants said in All Blacks 2021:
2022 will be different. Ireland 3 times, SA in SA, England, Scotland, Wales, off session France maybe.
Omicron permitting 🥺I just worry Foster will win all of them as this would trigger multiple posts on how Jesus Chrobertson or another favourite coach would have won with twice the margin and with the AB "B" team....
No it really wouldn't, most everyone would be stoked if we had improved sufficiently for that to happen. The stick Foster is getting is due to his shit results, obtained in a shit manner, and his shit history with the Chiefs which meant that plenty of people couldnt understand his appointment and expected shit results and are frustrated to have been proved correct.
@reprobate said in All Blacks 2021:
@victor-meldrew said in All Blacks 2021:
@machpants said in All Blacks 2021:
2022 will be different. Ireland 3 times, SA in SA, England, Scotland, Wales, off session France maybe.
Omicron permitting 🥺I just worry Foster will win all of them as this would trigger multiple posts on how Jesus Chrobertson or another favourite coach would have won with twice the margin and with the AB "B" team....
No it really wouldn't, most everyone would be stoked if we had improved sufficiently for that to happen. The stick Foster is getting is due to his shit results, obtained in a shit manner, and his shit history with the Chiefs which meant that plenty of people couldnt understand his appointment and expected shit results and are frustrated to have been proved correct.
Well, your post might be the first time on the Fern where a poster (in this case me) has predicted something might happen and it does - before the predicted event...
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@reprobate said in All Blacks 2021:
@victor-meldrew said in All Blacks 2021:
@machpants said in All Blacks 2021:
2022 will be different. Ireland 3 times, SA in SA, England, Scotland, Wales, off session France maybe.
Omicron permitting 🥺I just worry Foster will win all of them as this would trigger multiple posts on how Jesus Chrobertson or another favourite coach would have won with twice the margin and with the AB "B" team....
No it really wouldn't, most everyone would be stoked if we had improved sufficiently for that to happen. The stick Foster is getting is due to his shit results, obtained in a shit manner, and his shit history with the Chiefs which meant that plenty of people couldnt understand his appointment and expected shit results and are frustrated to have been proved correct.
Well, your post might be the first time on the Fern where a poster (in this case me) has predicted something might happen and it does - before the predicted event...
@victor-meldrew said in All Blacks 2021:
@reprobate said in All Blacks 2021:
@victor-meldrew said in All Blacks 2021:
@machpants said in All Blacks 2021:
2022 will be different. Ireland 3 times, SA in SA, England, Scotland, Wales, off session France maybe.
Omicron permitting 🥺I just worry Foster will win all of them as this would trigger multiple posts on how Jesus Chrobertson or another favourite coach would have won with twice the margin and with the AB "B" team....
No it really wouldn't, most everyone would be stoked if we had improved sufficiently for that to happen. The stick Foster is getting is due to his shit results, obtained in a shit manner, and his shit history with the Chiefs which meant that plenty of people couldnt understand his appointment and expected shit results and are frustrated to have been proved correct.
Well, your post might be the first time on the Fern where a poster (in this case me) has predicted something might happen and it does - before the predicted event...
I genuinely don't understand. I don't recall ever having posted in praise of Robertson, and I'd love for Foster's plan to come together and for the ABs to play great running, winning rugby.
Unfortunately what I see is them playing the same shit rugby, making the same mistakes and unable to cope against the same opposition tactics, not looking like they have a plan, or composure, and losing to teams they don't usually lose to. -
@victor-meldrew said in All Blacks 2021:
@reprobate said in All Blacks 2021:
@victor-meldrew said in All Blacks 2021:
@machpants said in All Blacks 2021:
2022 will be different. Ireland 3 times, SA in SA, England, Scotland, Wales, off session France maybe.
Omicron permitting 🥺I just worry Foster will win all of them as this would trigger multiple posts on how Jesus Chrobertson or another favourite coach would have won with twice the margin and with the AB "B" team....
No it really wouldn't, most everyone would be stoked if we had improved sufficiently for that to happen. The stick Foster is getting is due to his shit results, obtained in a shit manner, and his shit history with the Chiefs which meant that plenty of people couldnt understand his appointment and expected shit results and are frustrated to have been proved correct.
Well, your post might be the first time on the Fern where a poster (in this case me) has predicted something might happen and it does - before the predicted event...
I genuinely don't understand. I don't recall ever having posted in praise of Robertson, and I'd love for Foster's plan to come together and for the ABs to play great running, winning rugby.
Unfortunately what I see is them playing the same shit rugby, making the same mistakes and unable to cope against the same opposition tactics, not looking like they have a plan, or composure, and losing to teams they don't usually lose to.@reprobate said in All Blacks 2021:
@victor-meldrew said in All Blacks 2021:
@reprobate said in All Blacks 2021:
@victor-meldrew said in All Blacks 2021:
@machpants said in All Blacks 2021:
2022 will be different. Ireland 3 times, SA in SA, England, Scotland, Wales, off session France maybe.
Omicron permitting 🥺I just worry Foster will win all of them as this would trigger multiple posts on how Jesus Chrobertson or another favourite coach would have won with twice the margin and with the AB "B" team....
No it really wouldn't, most everyone would be stoked if we had improved sufficiently for that to happen. The stick Foster is getting is due to his shit results, obtained in a shit manner, and his shit history with the Chiefs which meant that plenty of people couldnt understand his appointment and expected shit results and are frustrated to have been proved correct.
Well, your post might be the first time on the Fern where a poster (in this case me) has predicted something might happen and it does - before the predicted event...
I genuinely don't understand. I don't recall ever having posted in praise of Robertson, and I'd love for Foster's plan to come together and for the ABs to play great running, winning rugby.
Unfortunately what I see is them playing the same shit rugby, making the same mistakes and unable to cope against the same opposition tactics, not looking like they have a plan, or composure, and losing to teams they don't usually lose to.My first comment was tongue in cheek and about some of the posts blaming Foster for all the ill's in NZ Rugby & praising Robertson to the skies, and me predicting what the impact of Foster being successful next year would have on some people.
My second post was pointing out that prediction seemed to have come true a little earlier...
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Out of the 4 tests against the top-level opposition this year, this Ian Foster-coached ABs side won one game (in the last minute) and lost 3. Outmuscled and out-thought. Absolutely showing no signs of progress, neither in the development of players nor in the game's structure. Honestly, completely stunned by the way NZRU managed to sneakily and prematurely extend the current coaching panels' contract.
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Well this, from my FB feed, should trigger a few people....
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Although this points to 2022, still relevant, except a few points:
This article should start with TJP, Webber neednt be in it.
And Jacobson, who played mainly at 8 is under pressure from Blackadder and Dalton who played mainly 7?
Man our rugby writers are shite.
