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    @mn5 said in NZ tour of India:

    62 all out. Fuck a duck that’s embarrassing

    "Christmas in Rarotonga" should be on the cards again for a few of these batsmen.

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    @voodoo said in NZ tour of India:

    @chris said in NZ tour of India:

    @donsteppa said in NZ tour of India:

    And Jamieson has a big swing and that's that.

    @chris said in NZ tour of India:

    You will find Williamson has a massive say in selections, in fact the driving force in selecting the team more than Stead.

    Then the non playing Captain also has a bit to answer for.

    A mate of mine who I do a lot of coaching with here in Australia when he is here,
    Has a coaching role within the Black caps set up.
    He tells me Kane has a strong hand in selections.

    As you'd expect right?

    Absolutely the Captain knows what and how he wants to implement tactics,He has control on the field.
    Coach has to back the Captain.

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    @chris said in NZ tour of India:

    @donsteppa said in NZ tour of India:

    Send them back out there again. We might be five down again by the close of play.

    Have to play aggressively on that wkt or out for 62 again.
    They are in 2 minds defend or be positive,Use your feet set up on off stump a bit more too the offies to break up their length a bit,
    Can’t play with hard hands on the crease line to the ball spinning that much .

    Yes, there was definitely some lead feet out there

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    wrote on last edited by
    #951

    Talk about highs and lows - from Patel's record effort to another record effort with the bat as NZ is dismissed for the lowest test innings total against India.

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    @chris said in NZ tour of India:

    @donsteppa said in NZ tour of India:

    And Jamieson has a big swing and that's that.

    @chris said in NZ tour of India:

    You will find Williamson has a massive say in selections, in fact the driving force in selecting the team more than Stead.

    Then the non playing Captain also has a bit to answer for.

    A mate of mine who I do a lot of coaching with here in Australia when he is here,
    Has a coaching role within the Black caps set up.
    He tells me Kane has a strong hand in selections.

    That's interesting, what other information are you able to tell us?

    I'd like to know about coach Stead, is he highly regarded at all, or just fortunate to inherit a Golden generation of NZ players?

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    @kiwi_expat said in NZ tour of India:

    @chris said in NZ tour of India:

    @donsteppa said in NZ tour of India:

    And Jamieson has a big swing and that's that.

    @chris said in NZ tour of India:

    You will find Williamson has a massive say in selections, in fact the driving force in selecting the team more than Stead.

    Then the non playing Captain also has a bit to answer for.

    A mate of mine who I do a lot of coaching with here in Australia when he is here,
    Has a coaching role within the Black caps set up.
    He tells me Kane has a strong hand in selections.

    That's interesting, what other information can you tell us?

    I'd like to know about coach Stead, is he highly regarded at all, or just fortunate to inherit a Golden generation of NZ players?

    I think he is good as a man manager,I know my mate likes working with him.
    Kane has a strong say in things as it should be.
    In cricket the Captains weld a lot of power.
    Once Kane hits the field it’s his show.

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  • NTAN Offline
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    @mn5 said in NZ tour of India:

    62 all out. Fuck a duck that’s embarrassing

    FYB!

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  • DonsteppaD Offline
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    #955

    Third innings of the match almost looks like it is being played on a different pitch to our turn at bat...

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    replied to Chris on last edited by kiwi_expat
    #956

    @chris said in NZ tour of India:

    @kiwi_expat said in NZ tour of India:

    @chris said in NZ tour of India:

    @donsteppa said in NZ tour of India:

    And Jamieson has a big swing and that's that.

    @chris said in NZ tour of India:

    You will find Williamson has a massive say in selections, in fact the driving force in selecting the team more than Stead.

    Then the non playing Captain also has a bit to answer for.

    A mate of mine who I do a lot of coaching with here in Australia when he is here,
    Has a coaching role within the Black caps set up.
    He tells me Kane has a strong hand in selections.

    That's interesting, what other information can you tell us?

    I'd like to know about coach Stead, is he highly regarded at all, or just fortunate to inherit a Golden generation of NZ players?

    I think he is good as a man manager,I know my mate likes working with him.
    Kane has a strong say in things as it should be.
    In cricket the Captains weld a lot of power.
    Once Kane hits the field it’s his show.

    Really, so what do you know about the internal rift that developed within camp with how Stead very poorly 'managed' his players for the SCG test by dropping his most effective bowler against the Aussies in Southee? I think he's a supremely average coach who's considerably out of his depth at the international level.

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  • rotatedR Offline
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    #957

    I have no doubt Kane is picking his XIs. But the central contracting and squad selection is Larsen/Stead and that is where most of the issues have been.

    I'd be curious to know how Stead rates I'm Kane's mind after work with Gillespie at Yorkshire and Bayliss at SRH.

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  • sharkS Offline
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    @kiwi_expat said in NZ tour of India:

    @chris said in NZ tour of India:

    @kiwi_expat said in NZ tour of India:

    @chris said in NZ tour of India:

    @donsteppa said in NZ tour of India:

    And Jamieson has a big swing and that's that.

    @chris said in NZ tour of India:

    You will find Williamson has a massive say in selections, in fact the driving force in selecting the team more than Stead.

    Then the non playing Captain also has a bit to answer for.

    A mate of mine who I do a lot of coaching with here in Australia when he is here,
    Has a coaching role within the Black caps set up.
    He tells me Kane has a strong hand in selections.

    That's interesting, what other information can you tell us?

    I'd like to know about coach Stead, is he highly regarded at all, or just fortunate to inherit a Golden generation of NZ players?

    I think he is good as a man manager,I know my mate likes working with him.
    Kane has a strong say in things as it should be.
    In cricket the Captains weld a lot of power.
    Once Kane hits the field it’s his show.

    Really, so what do you know about the internal rift that developed within camp with how Stead very poorly 'managed' his players for the SCG test by dropping his most effective bowler against the Aussies in Southee? I think he's a supremely average coach who's considerably out of his depth at the international level.

    Southee made himself unavailable after Stead made Latham skipper for the match.

    And for the 1000th time, have a look at when Southee took his wickets in those two tests.

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  • MN5M Offline
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    replied to NTA on last edited by MN5
    #959

    @nta said in NZ tour of India:

    @mn5 said in NZ tour of India:

    62 all out. Fuck a duck that’s embarrassing

    FYB!

    No one born in NZ has taken a single wicket this test.

    You’d think that top order was Hartland, Pocock, Fulton, How and Broom the way they played….

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  • MN5M Offline
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    wrote on last edited by MN5
    #960

    Good article this. Wisden do some decent stuff when they’re not wanking on about Ben Stokes….

    The question for me will be whether this is the start of a truly great career or an average player having one absolutely extraordinary moment……

    We’ll see

    https://wisden.com/series-stories/india-v-new-zealand/ajaz-patels-10-for-shouldnt-be-a-total-shock-from-a-player-on-his-way-to-becoming-new-zealands-best-after-vettori?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR0kqICm3TLsyL5zeqCPm7fgKyVGVibvrkebyv7RQ-0zNFLhVcU8nKVpkm8#Echobox=1638634378

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    @mn5 said in NZ tour of India:

    Good article this. Wisden do some decent stuff when they’re not wanking on about Ben Stokes….

    The question for me will be whether this is the start of a truly great career or an average player having one absolutely extraordinary moment……

    We’ll see

    https://wisden.com/series-stories/india-v-new-zealand/ajaz-patels-10-for-shouldnt-be-a-total-shock-from-a-player-on-his-way-to-becoming-new-zealands-best-after-vettori?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR0kqICm3TLsyL5zeqCPm7fgKyVGVibvrkebyv7RQ-0zNFLhVcU8nKVpkm8#Echobox=1638634378

    Well, given that is already 33 and can't bat as well as Vettori I don't he'll get the chances required. Given our schedule, there's a good chance he won't play another test until next November.

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  • canefanC Offline
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    replied to LABCAT on last edited by
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    @labcat said in NZ tour of India:

    @mn5 said in NZ tour of India:

    Good article this. Wisden do some decent stuff when they’re not wanking on about Ben Stokes….

    The question for me will be whether this is the start of a truly great career or an average player having one absolutely extraordinary moment……

    We’ll see

    https://wisden.com/series-stories/india-v-new-zealand/ajaz-patels-10-for-shouldnt-be-a-total-shock-from-a-player-on-his-way-to-becoming-new-zealands-best-after-vettori?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR0kqICm3TLsyL5zeqCPm7fgKyVGVibvrkebyv7RQ-0zNFLhVcU8nKVpkm8#Echobox=1638634378

    Well, given that is already 33 and can't bat as well as Vettori I don't he'll get the chances required. Given our schedule, there's a good chance he won't play another test until next November.

    A full time spinner doesn't justify a spot in NZ tests. If Ravindra can roll his arm over a bit it makes Patel's chances even less

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  • ChrisC Offline
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    replied to kiwi_expat on last edited by
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    @kiwi_expat said in NZ tour of India:

    @chris said in NZ tour of India:

    @kiwi_expat said in NZ tour of India:

    @chris said in NZ tour of India:

    @donsteppa said in NZ tour of India:

    And Jamieson has a big swing and that's that.

    @chris said in NZ tour of India:

    You will find Williamson has a massive say in selections, in fact the driving force in selecting the team more than Stead.

    Then the non playing Captain also has a bit to answer for.

    A mate of mine who I do a lot of coaching with here in Australia when he is here,
    Has a coaching role within the Black caps set up.
    He tells me Kane has a strong hand in selections.

    That's interesting, what other information can you tell us?

    I'd like to know about coach Stead, is he highly regarded at all, or just fortunate to inherit a Golden generation of NZ players?

    I think he is good as a man manager,I know my mate likes working with him.
    Kane has a strong say in things as it should be.
    In cricket the Captains weld a lot of power.
    Once Kane hits the field it’s his show.

    Really, so what do you know about the internal rift that developed within camp with how Stead very poorly 'managed' his players for the SCG test by dropping his most effective bowler against the Aussies in Southee? I think he's a supremely average coach who's considerably out of his depth at the international level.

    You mean the dummy spit by Southee when Latham was made Captain and made himself unavailable,Southee wasn’t dropped.
    But kept in house.

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
    #964

    I hope Virat doesn't decide to exact some revenge on us for various disappointments we've pushed his way over the last several years.

    Our bowlers are going to be on their knees by lunch tomorrow and India can bat all day if they want. They could set us 700 and skittle us in a couple of sessions.

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    replied to MN5 on last edited by
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    @mn5 said in NZ tour of India:

    The question for me will be whether this is the start of a truly great career or an average player having one absolutely extraordinary moment……

    We’ll see

    Pretty sure it's mainly the latter - but, what shouldn't be underestimated is that this is the Indians at home that he has spun out. Those are great figures for a spinner against India even ignoring the significance of getting all 10.

    Would be good if we can mount some 2nd innings resistance, so history won't write it off as a minefield pitch.

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  • boobooB Offline
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    replied to Donsteppa on last edited by
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    @donsteppa said in NZ tour of India:

    Send them back out there again. We might be five down again by the close of play.

    Optimist

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