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  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

    @kiwi_expat isnt that what we want, a forward thinking coach 😉

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    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

    @kiwi_expat isnt that what we want, a forward thinking coach 😉

    It's just like Hansen repeatedly assured us while we were looking like a structureless rabble throughout the 2018, then 2019 seasons, "judge us by the world cup" he repeatedly told the public, as those record losses to Australia & Ireland were all part of the grand master-plan, after all...

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    • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

      @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

      @kiwi_expat isnt that what we want, a forward thinking coach 😉

      It's just like Hansen repeatedly assured us while we were looking like a structureless rabble throughout the 2018, then 2019 seasons, "judge us by the world cup" he repeatedly told the public, as those record losses to Australia & Ireland were all part of the grand master-plan, after all...

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      @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:

      judge us by the 2023 world cup result

      He forgot the year

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      • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

        Also, I remember a video segment from RNZ where he mentions his desire to quote 'show that he is 'innovative'..

        And to be fair to him.. being the first AB coach to lose to Argentina, was a ground-breaking achievement for Foz.

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        @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:

        Also, I remember a video segment from RNZ where he mentions his desire to quote 'show that he is 'innovative'..

        And to be fair to him... being the first AB coach to lose to Argentina, was a ground-breaking achievement for Foz.

        I think the worst thing he claimed, and didn't deliver on, was the commitment to physicality in the forwards.

        He correctly identified the issue, then failed completely to bring along/select the right players to address the problem

        We have played powder puff (copyright Walrus) rugby all year.

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        • voodooV voodoo

          @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:

          Also, I remember a video segment from RNZ where he mentions his desire to quote 'show that he is 'innovative'..

          And to be fair to him... being the first AB coach to lose to Argentina, was a ground-breaking achievement for Foz.

          I think the worst thing he claimed, and didn't deliver on, was the commitment to physicality in the forwards.

          He correctly identified the issue, then failed completely to bring along/select the right players to address the problem

          We have played powder puff (copyright Walrus) rugby all year.

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          @voodoo said in All Blacks 2021:

          @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:

          Also, I remember a video segment from RNZ where he mentions his desire to quote 'show that he is 'innovative'..

          And to be fair to him... being the first AB coach to lose to Argentina, was a ground-breaking achievement for Foz.

          I think the worst thing he claimed, and didn't deliver on, was the commitment to physicality in the forwards.

          He correctly identified the issue, then failed completely to bring along/select the right players to address the problem

          We have played powder puff (copyright Walrus) rugby all year.

          Go to 55 seconds, he pretty much addresses this, and even gets pressed further by Campbell about it.

          Mortifying to watch now after what's since transpired under Fozzie, he hasn't fulfilled these points to any degree.

          Watching this right now it's apparent he's completely & utterly out of his depth as an international coach & is simply clueless with regards to the best course of action that should be required for this team going forward.

          Just words alone cannot describe the inadequacy on display here.

          How is this level of incompetence acceptable for the NZR?

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          • voodooV voodoo

            @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:

            Also, I remember a video segment from RNZ where he mentions his desire to quote 'show that he is 'innovative'..

            And to be fair to him... being the first AB coach to lose to Argentina, was a ground-breaking achievement for Foz.

            I think the worst thing he claimed, and didn't deliver on, was the commitment to physicality in the forwards.

            He correctly identified the issue, then failed completely to bring along/select the right players to address the problem

            We have played powder puff (copyright Walrus) rugby all year.

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            @voodoo I think the gameplan doesn't help the physicality either, too loose and almost like they are trying to avoid heavy contact zones meaning when teams muscle up, we have the wrong players in the right areas of the park to take them on.

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              Foster specifically mentions Atu Moli as a player they will be tracking in 2022. A fit and firing Moli would help the Chiefs and ABs.

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              • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

                @voodoo said in All Blacks 2021:

                @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:

                Also, I remember a video segment from RNZ where he mentions his desire to quote 'show that he is 'innovative'..

                And to be fair to him... being the first AB coach to lose to Argentina, was a ground-breaking achievement for Foz.

                I think the worst thing he claimed, and didn't deliver on, was the commitment to physicality in the forwards.

                He correctly identified the issue, then failed completely to bring along/select the right players to address the problem

                We have played powder puff (copyright Walrus) rugby all year.

                Go to 55 seconds, he pretty much addresses this, and even gets pressed further by Campbell about it.

                Mortifying to watch now after what's since transpired under Fozzie, he hasn't fulfilled these points to any degree.

                Watching this right now it's apparent he's completely & utterly out of his depth as an international coach & is simply clueless with regards to the best course of action that should be required for this team going forward.

                Just words alone cannot describe the inadequacy on display here.

                How is this level of incompetence acceptable for the NZR?

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                @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:

                @voodoo said in All Blacks 2021:

                @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:

                Also, I remember a video segment from RNZ where he mentions his desire to quote 'show that he is 'innovative'..

                And to be fair to him... being the first AB coach to lose to Argentina, was a ground-breaking achievement for Foz.

                I think the worst thing he claimed, and didn't deliver on, was the commitment to physicality in the forwards.

                He correctly identified the issue, then failed completely to bring along/select the right players to address the problem

                We have played powder puff (copyright Walrus) rugby all year.

                Go to 55 seconds, he pretty much addresses this, and even gets pressed further by Campbell about it.

                Mortifying to watch now after what's since transpired under Fozzie, he hasn't fulfilled these points to any degree.

                Watching this right now it's apparent he's completely & utterly out of his depth as an international coach & is simply clueless with regards to the best course of action that should be required for this team going forward.

                Just words alone cannot describe the inadequacy on display here.

                How is this level of incompetence acceptable for the NZR?

                It's crazy that when they go up the guts and work off nine, they get go forward and dominance. But it is hardly ever used

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                • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

                  @voodoo said in All Blacks 2021:

                  @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:

                  Also, I remember a video segment from RNZ where he mentions his desire to quote 'show that he is 'innovative'..

                  And to be fair to him... being the first AB coach to lose to Argentina, was a ground-breaking achievement for Foz.

                  I think the worst thing he claimed, and didn't deliver on, was the commitment to physicality in the forwards.

                  He correctly identified the issue, then failed completely to bring along/select the right players to address the problem

                  We have played powder puff (copyright Walrus) rugby all year.

                  Go to 55 seconds, he pretty much addresses this, and even gets pressed further by Campbell about it.

                  Mortifying to watch now after what's since transpired under Fozzie, he hasn't fulfilled these points to any degree.

                  Watching this right now it's apparent he's completely & utterly out of his depth as an international coach & is simply clueless with regards to the best course of action that should be required for this team going forward.

                  Just words alone cannot describe the inadequacy on display here.

                  How is this level of incompetence acceptable for the NZR?

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                  @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:

                  @voodoo said in All Blacks 2021:

                  @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:

                  Also, I remember a video segment from RNZ where he mentions his desire to quote 'show that he is 'innovative'..

                  And to be fair to him... being the first AB coach to lose to Argentina, was a ground-breaking achievement for Foz.

                  I think the worst thing he claimed, and didn't deliver on, was the commitment to physicality in the forwards.

                  He correctly identified the issue, then failed completely to bring along/select the right players to address the problem

                  We have played powder puff (copyright Walrus) rugby all year.

                  Go to 55 seconds, he pretty much addresses this, and even gets pressed further by Campbell about it.

                  Mortifying to watch now after what's since transpired under Fozzie, he hasn't fulfilled these points to any degree.

                  Watching this right now it's apparent he's completely & utterly out of his depth as an international coach & is simply clueless with regards to the best course of action that should be required for this team going forward.

                  Just words alone cannot describe the inadequacy on display here.

                  How is this level of incompetence acceptable for the NZR?

                  It’s very scary going forward what a mess Foster is going to make of the AB’s in the next 2 years.

                  Totally out of his depth as you said above.

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                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/127232137/ian-foster-reflects-dissects-and-says-the-all-blacks-will-find-the-answers

                    I am not particularly anti-Fozzie but the signs aren't great. The game has well and truly moved on and the ABs are now being reactive to better teams rather than being innovative or revolutionary. Basically chasing the pack.
                    What worries me the most is that some players are being scapegoated but I truly believe, no matter who you put in this old and tired system that has been worked out and surpassed by other teams, the results will be the same. The writing was on the wall for change in 2017, and we are now heading into 2022 with talk of tweaks and changes in selection to make the "system" work.

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                    • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

                      @voodoo said in All Blacks 2021:

                      @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:

                      Also, I remember a video segment from RNZ where he mentions his desire to quote 'show that he is 'innovative'..

                      And to be fair to him... being the first AB coach to lose to Argentina, was a ground-breaking achievement for Foz.

                      I think the worst thing he claimed, and didn't deliver on, was the commitment to physicality in the forwards.

                      He correctly identified the issue, then failed completely to bring along/select the right players to address the problem

                      We have played powder puff (copyright Walrus) rugby all year.

                      Go to 55 seconds, he pretty much addresses this, and even gets pressed further by Campbell about it.

                      Mortifying to watch now after what's since transpired under Fozzie, he hasn't fulfilled these points to any degree.

                      Watching this right now it's apparent he's completely & utterly out of his depth as an international coach & is simply clueless with regards to the best course of action that should be required for this team going forward.

                      Just words alone cannot describe the inadequacy on display here.

                      How is this level of incompetence acceptable for the NZR?

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                      @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:

                      @voodoo said in All Blacks 2021:

                      @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:

                      Also, I remember a video segment from RNZ where he mentions his desire to quote 'show that he is 'innovative'..

                      And to be fair to him... being the first AB coach to lose to Argentina, was a ground-breaking achievement for Foz.

                      I think the worst thing he claimed, and didn't deliver on, was the commitment to physicality in the forwards.

                      He correctly identified the issue, then failed completely to bring along/select the right players to address the problem

                      We have played powder puff (copyright Walrus) rugby all year.

                      Go to 55 seconds, he pretty much addresses this, and even gets pressed further by Campbell about it.

                      Mortifying to watch now after what's since transpired under Fozzie, he hasn't fulfilled these points to any degree.

                      Watching this right now it's apparent he's completely & utterly out of his depth as an international coach & is simply clueless with regards to the best course of action that should be required for this team going forward.

                      Just words alone cannot describe the inadequacy on display here.

                      How is this level of incompetence acceptable for the NZR?

                      States the obvious; "we got smacked against England, what have we learnt from that?" and then proceeds to vomit HR twaddle about "freshening an organisation, how we deliver messages, the people that we use to deliver messages, grow our leaders, grow our mental skills, culture, younger group of players coming through from different backgrounds that we need to take into account and figure out how we link and communicate with them."

                      And some people still wonder why we've seen no development in how we play in over two years? He's not helped by the snivelling shit of an interviewer, but if that was the brief to the NZR selection committee, small wonder the game is in the parlous state it is. From the top down the organisation is being replaced with mediocrity and as they permeate through it becomes harder to identify them.

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                      • antipodeanA antipodean

                        @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:

                        @voodoo said in All Blacks 2021:

                        @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:

                        Also, I remember a video segment from RNZ where he mentions his desire to quote 'show that he is 'innovative'..

                        And to be fair to him... being the first AB coach to lose to Argentina, was a ground-breaking achievement for Foz.

                        I think the worst thing he claimed, and didn't deliver on, was the commitment to physicality in the forwards.

                        He correctly identified the issue, then failed completely to bring along/select the right players to address the problem

                        We have played powder puff (copyright Walrus) rugby all year.

                        Go to 55 seconds, he pretty much addresses this, and even gets pressed further by Campbell about it.

                        Mortifying to watch now after what's since transpired under Fozzie, he hasn't fulfilled these points to any degree.

                        Watching this right now it's apparent he's completely & utterly out of his depth as an international coach & is simply clueless with regards to the best course of action that should be required for this team going forward.

                        Just words alone cannot describe the inadequacy on display here.

                        How is this level of incompetence acceptable for the NZR?

                        States the obvious; "we got smacked against England, what have we learnt from that?" and then proceeds to vomit HR twaddle about "freshening an organisation, how we deliver messages, the people that we use to deliver messages, grow our leaders, grow our mental skills, culture, younger group of players coming through from different backgrounds that we need to take into account and figure out how we link and communicate with them."

                        And some people still wonder why we've seen no development in how we play in over two years? He's not helped by the snivelling shit of an interviewer, but if that was the brief to the NZR selection committee, small wonder the game is in the parlous state it is. From the top down the organisation is being replaced with mediocrity and as they permeate through it becomes harder to identify them.

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                        @antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:

                        @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:

                        @voodoo said in All Blacks 2021:

                        @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:

                        Also, I remember a video segment from RNZ where he mentions his desire to quote 'show that he is 'innovative'..

                        And to be fair to him... being the first AB coach to lose to Argentina, was a ground-breaking achievement for Foz.

                        I think the worst thing he claimed, and didn't deliver on, was the commitment to physicality in the forwards.

                        He correctly identified the issue, then failed completely to bring along/select the right players to address the problem

                        We have played powder puff (copyright Walrus) rugby all year.

                        Go to 55 seconds, he pretty much addresses this, and even gets pressed further by Campbell about it.

                        Mortifying to watch now after what's since transpired under Fozzie, he hasn't fulfilled these points to any degree.

                        Watching this right now it's apparent he's completely & utterly out of his depth as an international coach & is simply clueless with regards to the best course of action that should be required for this team going forward.

                        Just words alone cannot describe the inadequacy on display here.

                        How is this level of incompetence acceptable for the NZR?

                        States the obvious; "we got smacked against England, what have we learnt from that?" and then proceeds to vomit HR twaddle about "freshening an organisation, how we deliver messages, the people that we use to deliver messages, grow our leaders, grow our mental skills, culture, younger group of players coming through from different backgrounds that we need to take into account and figure out how we link and communicate with them."

                        And some people still wonder why we've seen no development in how we play in over two years? He's not helped by the snivelling shit of an interviewer, but if that was the brief to the NZR selection committee, small wonder the game is in the parlous state it is. From the top down the organisation is being replaced with mediocrity and as they permeate through it becomes harder to identify them.

                        It all starts at the top, because we have idiots on the NZRU Board we end up with an incompetent coach - even though we won The Rugby Championship you could see the cracks appearing... on the UK tour we lost really badly against Ireland, didn't learn from those obvious mistakes, so lost the same pathetic way against France too.

                        We are not even doing the basics in the forwards when we have possession, there's a real lack of mongrel/urgency taking the ball up, also we're not getting enough numbers to clean, blowing their players out the way so we can get quicker ball to our backs.

                        Foster's tactic to use box kicks to counter the rushing defence is pathetic... when the opposition are really slowing your ball down you need to kick, but is has to be smart kicking, like wipers kicks deep towards the sideline or corners, get them scrambling back, because the opposition are standing up so flat with this rugby league type defence there's going to be acres of space behind them.

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                        • get stuffedG get stuffed

                          @antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:

                          @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:

                          @voodoo said in All Blacks 2021:

                          @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:

                          Also, I remember a video segment from RNZ where he mentions his desire to quote 'show that he is 'innovative'..

                          And to be fair to him... being the first AB coach to lose to Argentina, was a ground-breaking achievement for Foz.

                          I think the worst thing he claimed, and didn't deliver on, was the commitment to physicality in the forwards.

                          He correctly identified the issue, then failed completely to bring along/select the right players to address the problem

                          We have played powder puff (copyright Walrus) rugby all year.

                          Go to 55 seconds, he pretty much addresses this, and even gets pressed further by Campbell about it.

                          Mortifying to watch now after what's since transpired under Fozzie, he hasn't fulfilled these points to any degree.

                          Watching this right now it's apparent he's completely & utterly out of his depth as an international coach & is simply clueless with regards to the best course of action that should be required for this team going forward.

                          Just words alone cannot describe the inadequacy on display here.

                          How is this level of incompetence acceptable for the NZR?

                          States the obvious; "we got smacked against England, what have we learnt from that?" and then proceeds to vomit HR twaddle about "freshening an organisation, how we deliver messages, the people that we use to deliver messages, grow our leaders, grow our mental skills, culture, younger group of players coming through from different backgrounds that we need to take into account and figure out how we link and communicate with them."

                          And some people still wonder why we've seen no development in how we play in over two years? He's not helped by the snivelling shit of an interviewer, but if that was the brief to the NZR selection committee, small wonder the game is in the parlous state it is. From the top down the organisation is being replaced with mediocrity and as they permeate through it becomes harder to identify them.

                          It all starts at the top, because we have idiots on the NZRU Board we end up with an incompetent coach - even though we won The Rugby Championship you could see the cracks appearing... on the UK tour we lost really badly against Ireland, didn't learn from those obvious mistakes, so lost the same pathetic way against France too.

                          We are not even doing the basics in the forwards when we have possession, there's a real lack of mongrel/urgency taking the ball up, also we're not getting enough numbers to clean, blowing their players out the way so we can get quicker ball to our backs.

                          Foster's tactic to use box kicks to counter the rushing defence is pathetic... when the opposition are really slowing your ball down you need to kick, but is has to be smart kicking, like wipers kicks deep towards the sideline or corners, get them scrambling back, because the opposition are standing up so flat with this rugby league type defence there's going to be acres of space behind them.

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                          @kiwibloke Yes, I don't get why the All Blacks are playing a game plan years old. Every man and his dog can see the game is played in the opposition's half so kicking should be long and to space, not "contestable" box kicks in your own half.

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                          • antipodeanA antipodean

                            @kiwibloke Yes, I don't get why the All Blacks are playing a game plan years old. Every man and his dog can see the game is played in the opposition's half so kicking should be long and to space, not "contestable" box kicks in your own half.

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                            @antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:

                            @kiwibloke Yes, I don't get why the All Blacks are playing a game plan years old. Every man and his dog can see the game is played in the opposition's half so kicking should be long and to space, not "contestable" box kicks in your own half.

                            Yeah, if you're not doing the basics in any sport you're asking for big trouble... Robertson was the obvious bloke for head coach, instead we have a moron doing the job.

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                            • antipodeanA antipodean

                              @kiwibloke Yes, I don't get why the All Blacks are playing a game plan years old. Every man and his dog can see the game is played in the opposition's half so kicking should be long and to space, not "contestable" box kicks in your own half.

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                              @antipodean Steyn gave us the ultimate lesson in this in the last Championship game by pinning the ABs in their own territory and yet.......

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                              • O Old Samurai Jack

                                @antipodean Steyn gave us the ultimate lesson in this in the last Championship game by pinning the ABs in their own territory and yet.......

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                                @old-samurai-jack said in All Blacks 2021:

                                @antipodean Steyn gave us the ultimate lesson in this in the last Championship game by pinning the ABs in their own territory and yet.......

                                Exactly mate, he constantly pinned us in our own corner with just good common sense thinking, but we continue to kick aimlessly in general play, it's up to our playmakers to read play properly, applying pressure by at least kicking into space so we can put the squeeze on them.

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                                • antipodeanA antipodean

                                  @kiwibloke Yes, I don't get why the All Blacks are playing a game plan years old. Every man and his dog can see the game is played in the opposition's half so kicking should be long and to space, not "contestable" box kicks in your own half.

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                                  @antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:

                                  @kiwibloke Yes, I don't get why the All Blacks are playing a game plan years old. Every man and his dog can see the game is played in the opposition's half so kicking should be long and to space, not "contestable" box kicks in your own half.

                                  As Squidge pointed out the only less invative attack he's seen is Canada, that's pretty fucking damning.

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                                  • get stuffedG get stuffed

                                    @antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:

                                    @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:

                                    @voodoo said in All Blacks 2021:

                                    @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:

                                    Also, I remember a video segment from RNZ where he mentions his desire to quote 'show that he is 'innovative'..

                                    And to be fair to him... being the first AB coach to lose to Argentina, was a ground-breaking achievement for Foz.

                                    I think the worst thing he claimed, and didn't deliver on, was the commitment to physicality in the forwards.

                                    He correctly identified the issue, then failed completely to bring along/select the right players to address the problem

                                    We have played powder puff (copyright Walrus) rugby all year.

                                    Go to 55 seconds, he pretty much addresses this, and even gets pressed further by Campbell about it.

                                    Mortifying to watch now after what's since transpired under Fozzie, he hasn't fulfilled these points to any degree.

                                    Watching this right now it's apparent he's completely & utterly out of his depth as an international coach & is simply clueless with regards to the best course of action that should be required for this team going forward.

                                    Just words alone cannot describe the inadequacy on display here.

                                    How is this level of incompetence acceptable for the NZR?

                                    States the obvious; "we got smacked against England, what have we learnt from that?" and then proceeds to vomit HR twaddle about "freshening an organisation, how we deliver messages, the people that we use to deliver messages, grow our leaders, grow our mental skills, culture, younger group of players coming through from different backgrounds that we need to take into account and figure out how we link and communicate with them."

                                    And some people still wonder why we've seen no development in how we play in over two years? He's not helped by the snivelling shit of an interviewer, but if that was the brief to the NZR selection committee, small wonder the game is in the parlous state it is. From the top down the organisation is being replaced with mediocrity and as they permeate through it becomes harder to identify them.

                                    It all starts at the top, because we have idiots on the NZRU Board we end up with an incompetent coach - even though we won The Rugby Championship you could see the cracks appearing... on the UK tour we lost really badly against Ireland, didn't learn from those obvious mistakes, so lost the same pathetic way against France too.

                                    We are not even doing the basics in the forwards when we have possession, there's a real lack of mongrel/urgency taking the ball up, also we're not getting enough numbers to clean, blowing their players out the way so we can get quicker ball to our backs.

                                    Foster's tactic to use box kicks to counter the rushing defence is pathetic... when the opposition are really slowing your ball down you need to kick, but is has to be smart kicking, like wipers kicks deep towards the sideline or corners, get them scrambling back, because the opposition are standing up so flat with this rugby league type defence there's going to be acres of space behind them.

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                                    @kiwibloke said in All Blacks 2021:

                                    @antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:

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                                    @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2021:

                                    Also, I remember a video segment from RNZ where he mentions his desire to quote 'show that he is 'innovative'..

                                    And to be fair to him... being the first AB coach to lose to Argentina, was a ground-breaking achievement for Foz.

                                    I think the worst thing he claimed, and didn't deliver on, was the commitment to physicality in the forwards.

                                    He correctly identified the issue, then failed completely to bring along/select the right players to address the problem

                                    We have played powder puff (copyright Walrus) rugby all year.

                                    Go to 55 seconds, he pretty much addresses this, and even gets pressed further by Campbell about it.

                                    Mortifying to watch now after what's since transpired under Fozzie, he hasn't fulfilled these points to any degree.

                                    Watching this right now it's apparent he's completely & utterly out of his depth as an international coach & is simply clueless with regards to the best course of action that should be required for this team going forward.

                                    Just words alone cannot describe the inadequacy on display here.

                                    How is this level of incompetence acceptable for the NZR?

                                    States the obvious; "we got smacked against England, what have we learnt from that?" and then proceeds to vomit HR twaddle about "freshening an organisation, how we deliver messages, the people that we use to deliver messages, grow our leaders, grow our mental skills, culture, younger group of players coming through from different backgrounds that we need to take into account and figure out how we link and communicate with them."

                                    And some people still wonder why we've seen no development in how we play in over two years? He's not helped by the snivelling shit of an interviewer, but if that was the brief to the NZR selection committee, small wonder the game is in the parlous state it is. From the top down the organisation is being replaced with mediocrity and as they permeate through it becomes harder to identify them.

                                    It all starts at the top, because we have idiots on the NZRU Board we end up with an incompetent coach - even though we won The Rugby Championship you could see the cracks appearing... on the UK tour we lost really badly against Ireland, didn't learn from those obvious mistakes, so lost the same pathetic way against France too.

                                    We are not even doing the basics in the forwards when we have possession, there's a real lack of mongrel/urgency taking the ball up, also we're not getting enough numbers to clean, blowing their players out the way so we can get quicker ball to our backs.

                                    Foster's tactic to use box kicks to counter the rushing defence is pathetic... when the opposition are really slowing your ball down you need to kick, but is has to be smart kicking, like wipers kicks deep towards the sideline or corners, get them scrambling back, because the opposition are standing up so flat with this rugby league type defence there's going to be acres of space behind them.

                                    Yep agree with your post nothing is going to change with the wee Fat man in charge.Evreryone can see we are tactically inept but him.

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                                      @old-samurai-jack said in All Blacks 2021:

                                      @antipodean Steyn gave us the ultimate lesson in this in the last Championship game by pinning the ABs in their own territory and yet.......

                                      Exactly mate, he constantly pinned us in our own corner with just good common sense thinking, but we continue to kick aimlessly in general play, it's up to our playmakers to read play properly, applying pressure by at least kicking into space so we can put the squeeze on them.

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                                      @kiwibloke said in All Blacks 2021:

                                      it's up to our playmakers to read play properly, applying pressure by at least kicking into space so we can put the squeeze on them.

                                      although, what if how/where they are kicking is following the game plan?

                                      These players didnt suddenly lose thier talent and skills, they may be low on confidence though...

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                                        @kiwibloke said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        it's up to our playmakers to read play properly, applying pressure by at least kicking into space so we can put the squeeze on them.

                                        although, what if how/where they are kicking is following the game plan?

                                        These players didnt suddenly lose thier talent and skills, they may be low on confidence though...

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                                        @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        although, what if how/where they are kicking is following the game plan?

                                        These players didnt suddenly lose thier talent and skills, they may be low on confidence though...

                                        It is interesting. Although no DC, Ritchie guides the Crusaders around the park well and we all know BB can do the same. One of JB's strengths is the long raking punt which can make some serious metres. So why the headless chook stupidity at AB level?

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                                          @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

                                          although, what if how/where they are kicking is following the game plan?

                                          These players didnt suddenly lose thier talent and skills, they may be low on confidence though...

                                          It is interesting. Although no DC, Ritchie guides the Crusaders around the park well and we all know BB can do the same. One of JB's strengths is the long raking punt which can make some serious metres. So why the headless chook stupidity at AB level?

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                                          @old-samurai-jack said in All Blacks 2021:

                                          Ritchie

                                          Not this shit again

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