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    Mitch Marsh has for some time been a bloody good T20 cricketer. He's basically the best player in the BBL, and his play in the World Cup should have come as no surprise.

    Throughout this time, Mitch Marsh was correctly viewed as not a test match player

    until now, because dipshits gonna dipshit. The drums are beating for an ashes recall, replacing Green, who was pretty bloody good last season.

    Now, look, the first thing to admit is these drums are being beat by such noted cricket visionaries as Michael Clarke and Mark Taylor, who, while successful captains, appear to be absolute spuds as analysts. Someone who actually knows stuff, Alan Border, doesn't see it as a great idea.

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      #823

      748159E8-F66E-4CF4-97B9-0672A01BB1C6.jpeg

      This photo makes me happy.

      How many greats can you name ? I’ve never seen so many in one pic.

      I’ve got Warnie, Lara, Pollock, Tendulkar, Donald, Ponting, Akhtar, Murali, Walsh, Sangakkara, Jayawardene, Hayden, Sehwag, Kumble…..a few I’m not 100% on.

      Andrew Symonds and Jonty Rhodes are in the pic as well.

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        #824

        Just been reading Ray Illingworth’s obituary. There was a pretty amazing stat on the 1970/71 Ashes series. 7 matches (one abandoned) and the home umpires apparently did not give one lbw decision in favour of the English bowlers. 😳

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        • CatograndeC Catogrande

          Just been reading Ray Illingworth’s obituary. There was a pretty amazing stat on the 1970/71 Ashes series. 7 matches (one abandoned) and the home umpires apparently did not give one lbw decision in favour of the English bowlers. 😳

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          @catogrande said in Other Cricket:

          Just been reading Ray Illingworth’s obituary. There was a pretty amazing stat on the 1970/71 Ashes series. 7 matches (one abandoned) and the home umpires apparently did not give one lbw decision in favour of the English bowlers. 😳

          Do you think the poms can use that as an excuse for the series going on now ?

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          • CatograndeC Catogrande

            Just been reading Ray Illingworth’s obituary. There was a pretty amazing stat on the 1970/71 Ashes series. 7 matches (one abandoned) and the home umpires apparently did not give one lbw decision in favour of the English bowlers. 😳

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            @catogrande digressing slightly ... during one of the previous tests this series I heard Chapelli who is on the ABC comms team (and sounding old 😞 ) waffling on about how l, on a given tour to South Africa some time in the 60s or early 70s, the home umpires were "very patriotic".

            To be fair he didn't bring up the topic (it was someone recalling what he said at the time), but obviously the absolute height of irony.

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            • MN5M MN5

              @catogrande said in Other Cricket:

              Just been reading Ray Illingworth’s obituary. There was a pretty amazing stat on the 1970/71 Ashes series. 7 matches (one abandoned) and the home umpires apparently did not give one lbw decision in favour of the English bowlers. 😳

              Do you think the poms can use that as an excuse for the series going on now ?

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              @mn5 said in Other Cricket:

              @catogrande said in Other Cricket:

              Just been reading Ray Illingworth’s obituary. There was a pretty amazing stat on the 1970/71 Ashes series. 7 matches (one abandoned) and the home umpires apparently did not give one lbw decision in favour of the English bowlers. 😳

              Do you think the poms can use that as an excuse for the series going on now ?

              The, actually quite valid, excuse we will be using is that we’re just a bit shit.

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              • CatograndeC Catogrande

                @mn5 said in Other Cricket:

                @catogrande said in Other Cricket:

                Just been reading Ray Illingworth’s obituary. There was a pretty amazing stat on the 1970/71 Ashes series. 7 matches (one abandoned) and the home umpires apparently did not give one lbw decision in favour of the English bowlers. 😳

                Do you think the poms can use that as an excuse for the series going on now ?

                The, actually quite valid, excuse we will be using is that we’re just a bit shit.

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                #828

                @catogrande said in Other Cricket:

                @mn5 said in Other Cricket:

                @catogrande said in Other Cricket:

                Just been reading Ray Illingworth’s obituary. There was a pretty amazing stat on the 1970/71 Ashes series. 7 matches (one abandoned) and the home umpires apparently did not give one lbw decision in favour of the English bowlers. 😳

                Do you think the poms can use that as an excuse for the series going on now ?

                The, actually quite valid, excuse we will be using is that we’re just a bit shit.

                Check my post in the ashes thread, what the fuck is wrong with England cricket at the moment ? particularly the batting……

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                • MN5M MN5

                  @catogrande said in Other Cricket:

                  @mn5 said in Other Cricket:

                  @catogrande said in Other Cricket:

                  Just been reading Ray Illingworth’s obituary. There was a pretty amazing stat on the 1970/71 Ashes series. 7 matches (one abandoned) and the home umpires apparently did not give one lbw decision in favour of the English bowlers. 😳

                  Do you think the poms can use that as an excuse for the series going on now ?

                  The, actually quite valid, excuse we will be using is that we’re just a bit shit.

                  Check my post in the ashes thread, what the fuck is wrong with England cricket at the moment ? particularly the batting……

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                  @mn5 said in Other Cricket:

                  @catogrande said in Other Cricket:

                  @mn5 said in Other Cricket:

                  @catogrande said in Other Cricket:

                  Just been reading Ray Illingworth’s obituary. There was a pretty amazing stat on the 1970/71 Ashes series. 7 matches (one abandoned) and the home umpires apparently did not give one lbw decision in favour of the English bowlers. 😳

                  Do you think the poms can use that as an excuse for the series going on now ?

                  The, actually quite valid, excuses we will be using is that we’re just a bit shit.th

                  Check my post in the ashes thread, what the fuck is wrong with England cricket at the moment ? particularly the batting……

                  God knows but I’m thinking that it’s probably a combination of things. Do we have the cattle firstly? Are we giving them enough first class cricket or are we hell bent on chasing limited overs glory? Is our coaching up to scratch? Then the big one - selection.

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                  • CatograndeC Catogrande

                    @mn5 said in Other Cricket:

                    @catogrande said in Other Cricket:

                    @mn5 said in Other Cricket:

                    @catogrande said in Other Cricket:

                    Just been reading Ray Illingworth’s obituary. There was a pretty amazing stat on the 1970/71 Ashes series. 7 matches (one abandoned) and the home umpires apparently did not give one lbw decision in favour of the English bowlers. 😳

                    Do you think the poms can use that as an excuse for the series going on now ?

                    The, actually quite valid, excuses we will be using is that we’re just a bit shit.th

                    Check my post in the ashes thread, what the fuck is wrong with England cricket at the moment ? particularly the batting……

                    God knows but I’m thinking that it’s probably a combination of things. Do we have the cattle firstly? Are we giving them enough first class cricket or are we hell bent on chasing limited overs glory? Is our coaching up to scratch? Then the big one - selection.

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                    @catogrande said in Other Cricket:

                    @mn5 said in Other Cricket:

                    @catogrande said in Other Cricket:

                    @mn5 said in Other Cricket:

                    @catogrande said in Other Cricket:

                    Just been reading Ray Illingworth’s obituary. There was a pretty amazing stat on the 1970/71 Ashes series. 7 matches (one abandoned) and the home umpires apparently did not give one lbw decision in favour of the English bowlers. 😳

                    Do you think the poms can use that as an excuse for the series going on now ?

                    The, actually quite valid, excuses we will be using is that we’re just a bit shit.th

                    Check my post in the ashes thread, what the fuck is wrong with England cricket at the moment ? particularly the batting……

                    God knows but I’m thinking that it’s probably a combination of things. Do we have the cattle firstly? Are we giving them enough first class cricket or are we hell bent on chasing limited overs glory? Is our coaching up to scratch? Then the big one - selection.

                    It does baffle me, England invented the game and have a rich history of some absolute legends but this current line up is bereft of talent. Root in particular stands out like absolute dogs balls in that batting line up and they can’t rely on the two old warhorses to try and stem the tide with their bowling. I’m sure Stokes still has at least one big innings or bowling spell in him but he’s being relied up to do too much on his own too.

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                    • MN5M MN5

                      @catogrande said in Other Cricket:

                      @mn5 said in Other Cricket:

                      @catogrande said in Other Cricket:

                      @mn5 said in Other Cricket:

                      @catogrande said in Other Cricket:

                      Just been reading Ray Illingworth’s obituary. There was a pretty amazing stat on the 1970/71 Ashes series. 7 matches (one abandoned) and the home umpires apparently did not give one lbw decision in favour of the English bowlers. 😳

                      Do you think the poms can use that as an excuse for the series going on now ?

                      The, actually quite valid, excuses we will be using is that we’re just a bit shit.th

                      Check my post in the ashes thread, what the fuck is wrong with England cricket at the moment ? particularly the batting……

                      God knows but I’m thinking that it’s probably a combination of things. Do we have the cattle firstly? Are we giving them enough first class cricket or are we hell bent on chasing limited overs glory? Is our coaching up to scratch? Then the big one - selection.

                      It does baffle me, England invented the game and have a rich history of some absolute legends but this current line up is bereft of talent. Root in particular stands out like absolute dogs balls in that batting line up and they can’t rely on the two old warhorses to try and stem the tide with their bowling. I’m sure Stokes still has at least one big innings or bowling spell in him but he’s being relied up to do too much on his own too.

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                      @mn5

                      Stokes situation is indicative of just how desperate the current hierarchy are. Here is a guy who has had precious little cricket on the back of some mental health issues and he is dragged in to the most intense and pressurised series there is. All in the hope that one man can paper over the cracks of a dogs breakfast of a squad, doubly hampered by a lack of strategy and seemingly with bowlers who can’t or won’t bowl to a plan.

                      The results are all too predictable.

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                      • CatograndeC Catogrande

                        @mn5

                        Stokes situation is indicative of just how desperate the current hierarchy are. Here is a guy who has had precious little cricket on the back of some mental health issues and he is dragged in to the most intense and pressurised series there is. All in the hope that one man can paper over the cracks of a dogs breakfast of a squad, doubly hampered by a lack of strategy and seemingly with bowlers who can’t or won’t bowl to a plan.

                        The results are all too predictable.

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                        @catogrande said in Other Cricket:

                        @mn5

                        Stokes situation is indicative of just how desperate the current hierarchy are. Here is a guy who has had precious little cricket on the back of some mental health issues and he is dragged in to the most intense and pressurised series there is. All in the hope that one man can paper over the cracks of a dogs breakfast of a squad, doubly hampered by a lack of strategy and seemingly with bowlers who can’t or won’t bowl to a plan.

                        The results are all too predictable.

                        100%. I thought they’d lose 5-0 and that’s still well and truly on the cards.

                        Stokes is good but he’s not all time great. No one can talk up someone quite like the British press. The recently retired Bumble said he alone was the difference between England winning and losing. What the fuck ????

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                        • MN5M MN5

                          @catogrande said in Other Cricket:

                          @mn5

                          Stokes situation is indicative of just how desperate the current hierarchy are. Here is a guy who has had precious little cricket on the back of some mental health issues and he is dragged in to the most intense and pressurised series there is. All in the hope that one man can paper over the cracks of a dogs breakfast of a squad, doubly hampered by a lack of strategy and seemingly with bowlers who can’t or won’t bowl to a plan.

                          The results are all too predictable.

                          100%. I thought they’d lose 5-0 and that’s still well and truly on the cards.

                          Stokes is good but he’s not all time great. No one can talk up someone quite like the British press. The recently retired Bumble said he alone was the difference between England winning and losing. What the fuck ????

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                          @mn5 said in Other Cricket:

                          **Stokes is good but he’s not all time great. No one can talk up someone quite like the British press. ** The recently retired Bumble said he alone was the difference between England winning and losing. What the fuck ????

                          In a sport which seems to disproportionately to attract players even at the elite level who wilt under pressure - Stokes goes into that basket of players who only seem to get out of bed on the biggest stage like Botham, Flintoff, Gayle, S.Waugh, Sehwag etc.

                          McCullum is an automatic pick in our all time white ball side and will brick it in a CWC final. He is a special player but obviously the stats don't tell the whole story.

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                            For as long as I have followed cricket England have been ordinary bar two periods where they were decent

                            I'm not sure why we are surprised they have reverted to this level.

                            They are essentially the Wallabies.

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                              @mn5 said in Other Cricket:

                              **Stokes is good but he’s not all time great. No one can talk up someone quite like the British press. ** The recently retired Bumble said he alone was the difference between England winning and losing. What the fuck ????

                              In a sport which seems to disproportionately to attract players even at the elite level who wilt under pressure - Stokes goes into that basket of players who only seem to get out of bed on the biggest stage like Botham, Flintoff, Gayle, S.Waugh, Sehwag etc.

                              McCullum is an automatic pick in our all time white ball side and will brick it in a CWC final. He is a special player but obviously the stats don't tell the whole story.

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                              @rotated I think the sport is effectively designed to wreck your head.

                              It's insanely difficult, you can have bad luck and fail, or good luck and succeed. Not helped by the time to reflect on errors or events, and the fact your career can be out of your hands

                              Brutal, brutal mental sport. There's a reason so many professional cricketers struggle with mental health...I think it wrecks them, not them starting mentally weak

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                                @rotated I think the sport is effectively designed to wreck your head.

                                It's insanely difficult, you can have bad luck and fail, or good luck and succeed. Not helped by the time to reflect on errors or events, and the fact your career can be out of your hands

                                Brutal, brutal mental sport. There's a reason so many professional cricketers struggle with mental health...I think it wrecks them, not them starting mentally weak

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                                @nzzp said in Other Cricket:

                                @rotated I think the sport is effectively designed to wreck your head.

                                It's insanely difficult, you can have bad luck and fail, or good luck and succeed. Not helped by the time to reflect on errors or events, and the fact your career can be out of your hands

                                Brutal, brutal mental sport. There's a reason so many professional cricketers struggle with mental health...I think it wrecks them, not them starting mentally weak

                                At least bad decisions are much rarer nowadays with the technology available. Getting a duck when you’re not out due to a no ball or whatever back in the day must have been devastating.

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                                • MN5M MN5

                                  @nzzp said in Other Cricket:

                                  @rotated I think the sport is effectively designed to wreck your head.

                                  It's insanely difficult, you can have bad luck and fail, or good luck and succeed. Not helped by the time to reflect on errors or events, and the fact your career can be out of your hands

                                  Brutal, brutal mental sport. There's a reason so many professional cricketers struggle with mental health...I think it wrecks them, not them starting mentally weak

                                  At least bad decisions are much rarer nowadays with the technology available. Getting a duck when you’re not out due to a no ball or whatever back in the day must have been devastating.

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                                  @mn5 said in Other Cricket:

                                  @nzzp said in Other Cricket:

                                  @rotated I think the sport is effectively designed to wreck your head.

                                  It's insanely difficult, you can have bad luck and fail, or good luck and succeed. Not helped by the time to reflect on errors or events, and the fact your career can be out of your hands

                                  Brutal, brutal mental sport. There's a reason so many professional cricketers struggle with mental health...I think it wrecks them, not them starting mentally weak

                                  At least bad decisions are much rarer nowadays with the technology available. Getting a duck when you’re not out due to a no ball or whatever back in the day must have been devastating.

                                  At international level, yes. DRS is bloody good for the game overall... But I'd still tweak it at times.

                                  Do they use it in lower leagues?

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                                    https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/sa-vs-ind-3rd-test-whole-country-against-11-guys-rahul-kohli-angry-with-broadcaster-after-drs-saves-elgar-1296835

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                                      https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/sa-vs-ind-3rd-test-whole-country-against-11-guys-rahul-kohli-angry-with-broadcaster-after-drs-saves-elgar-1296835

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                                      @duluth boo-fucking-hoo.

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                                        https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/sa-vs-ind-3rd-test-whole-country-against-11-guys-rahul-kohli-angry-with-broadcaster-after-drs-saves-elgar-1296835

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                                        @duluth I watched it- didn't look horrific. Batsman was a long way down the pitch, the ball bounced. It happens. 10 mm lower and it was out -- but that's DRS.

                                        What was dodgy was the Indian reaction not coping with a bit of adversity

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                                          Neesh on it

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                                          https://twitter.com/JimmyNeesh/status/1481746732195401728?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^tweet

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