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@catogrande said in Other Cricket:
@mn5 said in Other Cricket:
@catogrande said in Other Cricket:
@mn5 said in Other Cricket:
@catogrande said in Other Cricket:
Just been reading Ray Illingworth’s obituary. There was a pretty amazing stat on the 1970/71 Ashes series. 7 matches (one abandoned) and the home umpires apparently did not give one lbw decision in favour of the English bowlers.
Do you think the poms can use that as an excuse for the series going on now ?
The, actually quite valid, excuses we will be using is that we’re just a bit shit.th
Check my post in the ashes thread, what the fuck is wrong with England cricket at the moment ? particularly the batting……
God knows but I’m thinking that it’s probably a combination of things. Do we have the cattle firstly? Are we giving them enough first class cricket or are we hell bent on chasing limited overs glory? Is our coaching up to scratch? Then the big one - selection.
It does baffle me, England invented the game and have a rich history of some absolute legends but this current line up is bereft of talent. Root in particular stands out like absolute dogs balls in that batting line up and they can’t rely on the two old warhorses to try and stem the tide with their bowling. I’m sure Stokes still has at least one big innings or bowling spell in him but he’s being relied up to do too much on his own too.
Stokes situation is indicative of just how desperate the current hierarchy are. Here is a guy who has had precious little cricket on the back of some mental health issues and he is dragged in to the most intense and pressurised series there is. All in the hope that one man can paper over the cracks of a dogs breakfast of a squad, doubly hampered by a lack of strategy and seemingly with bowlers who can’t or won’t bowl to a plan.
The results are all too predictable.
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Stokes situation is indicative of just how desperate the current hierarchy are. Here is a guy who has had precious little cricket on the back of some mental health issues and he is dragged in to the most intense and pressurised series there is. All in the hope that one man can paper over the cracks of a dogs breakfast of a squad, doubly hampered by a lack of strategy and seemingly with bowlers who can’t or won’t bowl to a plan.
The results are all too predictable.
@catogrande said in Other Cricket:
Stokes situation is indicative of just how desperate the current hierarchy are. Here is a guy who has had precious little cricket on the back of some mental health issues and he is dragged in to the most intense and pressurised series there is. All in the hope that one man can paper over the cracks of a dogs breakfast of a squad, doubly hampered by a lack of strategy and seemingly with bowlers who can’t or won’t bowl to a plan.
The results are all too predictable.
100%. I thought they’d lose 5-0 and that’s still well and truly on the cards.
Stokes is good but he’s not all time great. No one can talk up someone quite like the British press. The recently retired Bumble said he alone was the difference between England winning and losing. What the fuck ????
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@catogrande said in Other Cricket:
Stokes situation is indicative of just how desperate the current hierarchy are. Here is a guy who has had precious little cricket on the back of some mental health issues and he is dragged in to the most intense and pressurised series there is. All in the hope that one man can paper over the cracks of a dogs breakfast of a squad, doubly hampered by a lack of strategy and seemingly with bowlers who can’t or won’t bowl to a plan.
The results are all too predictable.
100%. I thought they’d lose 5-0 and that’s still well and truly on the cards.
Stokes is good but he’s not all time great. No one can talk up someone quite like the British press. The recently retired Bumble said he alone was the difference between England winning and losing. What the fuck ????
@mn5 said in Other Cricket:
**Stokes is good but he’s not all time great. No one can talk up someone quite like the British press. ** The recently retired Bumble said he alone was the difference between England winning and losing. What the fuck ????
In a sport which seems to disproportionately to attract players even at the elite level who wilt under pressure - Stokes goes into that basket of players who only seem to get out of bed on the biggest stage like Botham, Flintoff, Gayle, S.Waugh, Sehwag etc.
McCullum is an automatic pick in our all time white ball side and will brick it in a CWC final. He is a special player but obviously the stats don't tell the whole story.
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For as long as I have followed cricket England have been ordinary bar two periods where they were decent
I'm not sure why we are surprised they have reverted to this level.
They are essentially the Wallabies.
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@mn5 said in Other Cricket:
**Stokes is good but he’s not all time great. No one can talk up someone quite like the British press. ** The recently retired Bumble said he alone was the difference between England winning and losing. What the fuck ????
In a sport which seems to disproportionately to attract players even at the elite level who wilt under pressure - Stokes goes into that basket of players who only seem to get out of bed on the biggest stage like Botham, Flintoff, Gayle, S.Waugh, Sehwag etc.
McCullum is an automatic pick in our all time white ball side and will brick it in a CWC final. He is a special player but obviously the stats don't tell the whole story.
@rotated I think the sport is effectively designed to wreck your head.
It's insanely difficult, you can have bad luck and fail, or good luck and succeed. Not helped by the time to reflect on errors or events, and the fact your career can be out of your hands
Brutal, brutal mental sport. There's a reason so many professional cricketers struggle with mental health...I think it wrecks them, not them starting mentally weak
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@rotated I think the sport is effectively designed to wreck your head.
It's insanely difficult, you can have bad luck and fail, or good luck and succeed. Not helped by the time to reflect on errors or events, and the fact your career can be out of your hands
Brutal, brutal mental sport. There's a reason so many professional cricketers struggle with mental health...I think it wrecks them, not them starting mentally weak
@nzzp said in Other Cricket:
@rotated I think the sport is effectively designed to wreck your head.
It's insanely difficult, you can have bad luck and fail, or good luck and succeed. Not helped by the time to reflect on errors or events, and the fact your career can be out of your hands
Brutal, brutal mental sport. There's a reason so many professional cricketers struggle with mental health...I think it wrecks them, not them starting mentally weak
At least bad decisions are much rarer nowadays with the technology available. Getting a duck when you’re not out due to a no ball or whatever back in the day must have been devastating.
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@nzzp said in Other Cricket:
@rotated I think the sport is effectively designed to wreck your head.
It's insanely difficult, you can have bad luck and fail, or good luck and succeed. Not helped by the time to reflect on errors or events, and the fact your career can be out of your hands
Brutal, brutal mental sport. There's a reason so many professional cricketers struggle with mental health...I think it wrecks them, not them starting mentally weak
At least bad decisions are much rarer nowadays with the technology available. Getting a duck when you’re not out due to a no ball or whatever back in the day must have been devastating.
@mn5 said in Other Cricket:
@nzzp said in Other Cricket:
@rotated I think the sport is effectively designed to wreck your head.
It's insanely difficult, you can have bad luck and fail, or good luck and succeed. Not helped by the time to reflect on errors or events, and the fact your career can be out of your hands
Brutal, brutal mental sport. There's a reason so many professional cricketers struggle with mental health...I think it wrecks them, not them starting mentally weak
At least bad decisions are much rarer nowadays with the technology available. Getting a duck when you’re not out due to a no ball or whatever back in the day must have been devastating.
At international level, yes. DRS is bloody good for the game overall... But I'd still tweak it at times.
Do they use it in lower leagues?
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@duluth I watched it- didn't look horrific. Batsman was a long way down the pitch, the ball bounced. It happens. 10 mm lower and it was out -- but that's DRS.
What was dodgy was the Indian reaction not coping with a bit of adversity
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Neesh on it
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@booboo said in Other Cricket:
@nta said in Other Cricket:
Well, a hearty sucked in to Kohli.
Que?
SA beat India by 7 wickets.
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I was expecting to see Henry Nicholls mentioned in this article as well, but he isn't. Maybe he has been better than I thought. Maybe the the 2018 date cutoff means earlier less chancy form obscures the last year?
The analysis in the article doesn't include being dismissed off of no-balls.
