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Ashes 2021-22

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    #670

    Averages of England batters to debut in men's Test cricket over the last six years:

    Foakes: 31.53
    Burns: 30.92
    Malan: 30.35
    Pope: 29.79
    Denly: 29.53
    Sibley: 28.94
    Hales: 28.26
    Hameed: 27.80
    Crawley: 27.74
    Stoneman: 27.68
    Lawrence: 27.23
    Jennings: 25.19
    Vince: 24.90
    Westley: 24.12
    Roy: 18.70
    Duckett: 15.71
    Bracey: 2.66

    Stolen from Wisden, I assume this is all the specialist batsmen who’ve debuted in this period ? Christ England would kill for debutants of the calibre of Nicholls, Blundell, Conway, Young ( ok, jury still out on him and Blundell maybe ) wouldn’t they ?

    Fuck that’s a lot of players who have been tried and found wanting…..

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    • MN5M MN5

      Averages of England batters to debut in men's Test cricket over the last six years:

      Foakes: 31.53
      Burns: 30.92
      Malan: 30.35
      Pope: 29.79
      Denly: 29.53
      Sibley: 28.94
      Hales: 28.26
      Hameed: 27.80
      Crawley: 27.74
      Stoneman: 27.68
      Lawrence: 27.23
      Jennings: 25.19
      Vince: 24.90
      Westley: 24.12
      Roy: 18.70
      Duckett: 15.71
      Bracey: 2.66

      Stolen from Wisden, I assume this is all the specialist batsmen who’ve debuted in this period ? Christ England would kill for debutants of the calibre of Nicholls, Blundell, Conway, Young ( ok, jury still out on him and Blundell maybe ) wouldn’t they ?

      Fuck that’s a lot of players who have been tried and found wanting…..

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      #671

      @mn5 said in Ashes 2021-22:

      Averages of England batters to debut in men's Test cricket over the last six years:

      Foakes: 31.53
      Burns: 30.92
      Malan: 30.35
      Pope: 29.79
      Denly: 29.53
      Sibley: 28.94
      Hales: 28.26
      Hameed: 27.80
      Crawley: 27.74
      Stoneman: 27.68
      Lawrence: 27.23
      Jennings: 25.19
      Vince: 24.90
      Westley: 24.12
      Roy: 18.70
      Duckett: 15.71
      Bracey: 2.66

      Stolen from Wisden, I assume this is all the specialist batsmen who’ve debuted in this period ? Christ England would kill for debutants of the calibre of Nicholls, Blundell, Conway, Young ( ok, jury still out on him and Blundell maybe ) wouldn’t they ?

      Fuck that’s a lot of players who have been tried and found wanting…..

      That's a lot of Ken Rutherford clones...

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        @mn5 said in Ashes 2021-22:

        Averages of England batters to debut in men's Test cricket over the last six years:

        Foakes: 31.53
        Burns: 30.92
        Malan: 30.35
        Pope: 29.79
        Denly: 29.53
        Sibley: 28.94
        Hales: 28.26
        Hameed: 27.80
        Crawley: 27.74
        Stoneman: 27.68
        Lawrence: 27.23
        Jennings: 25.19
        Vince: 24.90
        Westley: 24.12
        Roy: 18.70
        Duckett: 15.71
        Bracey: 2.66

        Stolen from Wisden, I assume this is all the specialist batsmen who’ve debuted in this period ? Christ England would kill for debutants of the calibre of Nicholls, Blundell, Conway, Young ( ok, jury still out on him and Blundell maybe ) wouldn’t they ?

        Fuck that’s a lot of players who have been tried and found wanting…..

        That's a lot of Ken Rutherford clones...

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        MN5
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        @godder said in Ashes 2021-22:

        @mn5 said in Ashes 2021-22:

        Averages of England batters to debut in men's Test cricket over the last six years:

        Foakes: 31.53
        Burns: 30.92
        Malan: 30.35
        Pope: 29.79
        Denly: 29.53
        Sibley: 28.94
        Hales: 28.26
        Hameed: 27.80
        Crawley: 27.74
        Stoneman: 27.68
        Lawrence: 27.23
        Jennings: 25.19
        Vince: 24.90
        Westley: 24.12
        Roy: 18.70
        Duckett: 15.71
        Bracey: 2.66

        Stolen from Wisden, I assume this is all the specialist batsmen who’ve debuted in this period ? Christ England would kill for debutants of the calibre of Nicholls, Blundell, Conway, Young ( ok, jury still out on him and Blundell maybe ) wouldn’t they ?

        Fuck that’s a lot of players who have been tried and found wanting…..

        That's a lot of Ken Rutherford clones...

        Poor old Rutherford was always destined to have a bad average after the start he made. He was really more a 35-36 than 27 odd.

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          Lucky escape for England.

          https://twitter.com/bbctms/status/1475230983951564804?t=EEsn4OTppAMXaOHGODcj9w&s=19

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            Reports that they've been cleared.

            https://twitter.com/GeorgeDobell1/status/1475236139275587591?t=rT6fToi-2xZh5thA77NwWA&s=19

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              England team licking door knobs in Melbourne

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                England team licking door knobs in Melbourne

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                @nta said in Ashes 2021-22:

                England team licking door knobs in Melbourne

                Talk is that they’re gonna have the rest of the series in Melbourne ?

                ….as if that will make any difference to the result. Poor old Michael Vaughan looks a bit pained on TV discussing how they’re going and who can blame him. Gilly, Hussey and Warney are pretty fair though. They don’t really stick the boot in at all.

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                • MN5M MN5

                  @nta said in Ashes 2021-22:

                  England team licking door knobs in Melbourne

                  Talk is that they’re gonna have the rest of the series in Melbourne ?

                  ….as if that will make any difference to the result. Poor old Michael Vaughan looks a bit pained on TV discussing how they’re going and who can blame him. Gilly, Hussey and Warney are pretty fair though. They don’t really stick the boot in at all.

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                  @mn5 said in Ashes 2021-22:

                  Talk is that they’re gonna have the rest of the series in Melbourne ?

                  Which would be total fucking bullshit. But that's a rant for the Covid Oz thread

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                  • NTAN NTA

                    @mn5 said in Ashes 2021-22:

                    Talk is that they’re gonna have the rest of the series in Melbourne ?

                    Which would be total fucking bullshit. But that's a rant for the Covid Oz thread

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                    #678

                    @nta said in Ashes 2021-22:

                    @mn5 said in Ashes 2021-22:

                    Talk is that they’re gonna have the rest of the series in Melbourne ?

                    Which would be total fucking bullshit. But that's a rant for the Covid Oz thread

                    Absolutely, a completely extreme reaction.

                    Good for cricket watching though, I love seeing games at the “G”

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                    • NTAN NTA

                      @mn5 said in Ashes 2021-22:

                      Talk is that they’re gonna have the rest of the series in Melbourne ?

                      Which would be total fucking bullshit. But that's a rant for the Covid Oz thread

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                      #679

                      @nta said in Ashes 2021-22:

                      @mn5 said in Ashes 2021-22:

                      Talk is that they’re gonna have the rest of the series in Melbourne ?

                      Which would be total fucking bullshit. But that's a rant for the Covid Oz thread

                      What?? Why??? Oh my God this country has lost its fucking mind.

                      They could play anywhere and England won't get within 200 runs.

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                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                        @nta said in Ashes 2021-22:

                        @mn5 said in Ashes 2021-22:

                        Talk is that they’re gonna have the rest of the series in Melbourne ?

                        Which would be total fucking bullshit. But that's a rant for the Covid Oz thread

                        What?? Why??? Oh my God this country has lost its fucking mind.

                        They could play anywhere and England won't get within 200 runs.

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                        #680

                        @mariner4life said in Ashes 2021-22:

                        @nta said in Ashes 2021-22:

                        @mn5 said in Ashes 2021-22:

                        Talk is that they’re gonna have the rest of the series in Melbourne ?

                        Which would be total fucking bullshit. But that's a rant for the Covid Oz thread

                        What?? Why??? Oh my God this country has lost its fucking mind.

                        They could play anywhere and England won't get within 200 runs.

                        Generous.

                        Unbelievable that these two are right beside each other in the world rankings. The gulf between them is enormous.

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                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                          @nta said in Ashes 2021-22:

                          @mn5 said in Ashes 2021-22:

                          Talk is that they’re gonna have the rest of the series in Melbourne ?

                          Which would be total fucking bullshit. But that's a rant for the Covid Oz thread

                          What?? Why??? Oh my God this country has lost its fucking mind.

                          They could play anywhere and England won't get within 200 runs.

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                          #681

                          @mariner4life said in Ashes 2021-22:

                          @nta said in Ashes 2021-22:

                          @mn5 said in Ashes 2021-22:

                          Talk is that they’re gonna have the rest of the series in Melbourne ?

                          Which would be total fucking bullshit. But that's a rant for the Covid Oz thread

                          What?? Why??? Oh my God this country has lost its fucking mind.

                          They could play anywhere and England won't get within 200 runs.

                          I'm sure The Palace Chook would happily forget her principles for a wad of cash. Second Gabba test? Drop in pitch at QCB in Townsville?

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                          • MN5M MN5

                            @mariner4life said in Ashes 2021-22:

                            @nta said in Ashes 2021-22:

                            @mn5 said in Ashes 2021-22:

                            Talk is that they’re gonna have the rest of the series in Melbourne ?

                            Which would be total fucking bullshit. But that's a rant for the Covid Oz thread

                            What?? Why??? Oh my God this country has lost its fucking mind.

                            They could play anywhere and England won't get within 200 runs.

                            Generous.

                            Unbelievable that these two are right beside each other in the world rankings. The gulf between them is enormous.

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                            #682

                            @mn5 said in Ashes 2021-22:

                            @mariner4life said in Ashes 2021-22:

                            @nta said in Ashes 2021-22:

                            @mn5 said in Ashes 2021-22:

                            Talk is that they’re gonna have the rest of the series in Melbourne ?

                            Which would be total fucking bullshit. But that's a rant for the Covid Oz thread

                            What?? Why??? Oh my God this country has lost its fucking mind.

                            They could play anywhere and England won't get within 200 runs.

                            Generous.

                            Unbelievable that these two are right beside each other in the world rankings. The gulf between them is enormous.

                            If they played in England, I think the English bowlers would perform better and the Aussie bowlers would perform worse, so it would be closer.

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                              #683

                              https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/ashes-2021-22-test-match-continues-despite-four-covid-cases-emerging-in-england-touring-party-1294484

                              Back underway fortunately.

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                                NTA
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                                #684

                                Poor shot from Labuschagne - not the length to play at.

                                Wood's extra pace an asset

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                                  MN5
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                                  #685

                                  Huge Wicket England.

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                                  • MN5M MN5

                                    Averages of England batters to debut in men's Test cricket over the last six years:

                                    Foakes: 31.53
                                    Burns: 30.92
                                    Malan: 30.35
                                    Pope: 29.79
                                    Denly: 29.53
                                    Sibley: 28.94
                                    Hales: 28.26
                                    Hameed: 27.80
                                    Crawley: 27.74
                                    Stoneman: 27.68
                                    Lawrence: 27.23
                                    Jennings: 25.19
                                    Vince: 24.90
                                    Westley: 24.12
                                    Roy: 18.70
                                    Duckett: 15.71
                                    Bracey: 2.66

                                    Stolen from Wisden, I assume this is all the specialist batsmen who’ve debuted in this period ? Christ England would kill for debutants of the calibre of Nicholls, Blundell, Conway, Young ( ok, jury still out on him and Blundell maybe ) wouldn’t they ?

                                    Fuck that’s a lot of players who have been tried and found wanting…..

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                                    #686

                                    @mn5 said in Ashes 2021-22:

                                    Averages of England batters to debut in men's Test cricket over the last six years:

                                    Foakes: 31.53
                                    Burns: 30.92
                                    Malan: 30.35
                                    Pope: 29.79
                                    Denly: 29.53
                                    Sibley: 28.94
                                    Hales: 28.26
                                    Hameed: 27.80
                                    Crawley: 27.74
                                    Stoneman: 27.68
                                    Lawrence: 27.23
                                    Jennings: 25.19
                                    Vince: 24.90
                                    Westley: 24.12
                                    Roy: 18.70
                                    Duckett: 15.71
                                    Bracey: 2.66

                                    Stolen from Wisden, I assume this is all the specialist batsmen who’ve debuted in this period ? Christ England would kill for debutants of the calibre of Nicholls, Blundell, Conway, Young ( ok, jury still out on him and Blundell maybe ) wouldn’t they ?

                                    Fuck that’s a lot of players who have been tried and found wanting…..

                                    Had to look up mid nineties NZ which is generally remembered as a pretty barren period after Edgar/Wright, using 1993-1999:

                                    Jones 42.00 (1 test, for injury)
                                    Astle 40.00 (1 test, tactically)
                                    Wright 38.20 (his final series)
                                    Horne 38.20
                                    Young 32.12
                                    Spearman 31.29
                                    Stead 30.00
                                    Greatbatch 23.17
                                    Pocock 22.93
                                    Murray 20.20
                                    Twose 19.58
                                    Bell 16.53
                                    Hartland 14.75
                                    Vaughn 13.25

                                    Strangely strong compared to that lot.

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                                      #687

                                      Anderson finding some juice here.

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                                        NTA
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                                        #688

                                        Smith looking unsettled. That was a rank 126kmh half tracker from stokes that threatened nothing but boredom

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                                          Anderson gets his man. Some sustained pressure that previous bowling units weren't delivering.

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