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Ashes 2021-22

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    @majorrage said in Ashes 2021-22:

    The point is that I think they have the talent pool to do much better than they have. Currently tho they don’t have the mentality.

    I’m not an England supporter at all with cricket.

    But I really can’t stand crowing Australians. Not that long ago Warne was calling India easily the best team in the world …. After they’d beaten England. Oh, and lost to us a month earlier.

    Agree.

    They are in opener hell and for that there isn't really an obvious way out - so I kind of give them a pass on that (even though selections have been dubious there)

    But between Malan, Morgan, Buttler, Ballance, Bairstow, Vince, Pope and Crawley it's just bizarre they haven't been able to produce three steady test performers going into this series.

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    @rotated said in Ashes 2021-22:

    @majorrage said in Ashes 2021-22:

    The point is that I think they have the talent pool to do much better than they have. Currently tho they don’t have the mentality.

    I’m not an England supporter at all with cricket.

    But I really can’t stand crowing Australians. Not that long ago Warne was calling India easily the best team in the world …. After they’d beaten England. Oh, and lost to us a month earlier.

    Agree.

    They are in opener hell and for that there isn't really an obvious way out - so I kind of give them a pass on that (even though selections have been dubious there)

    But between Malan, Morgan, Buttler, Ballance, Bairstow, Vince, Pope and Crawley it's just bizarre they haven't been able to produce three steady test performers going into this series.

    Were they underdone going into the series like we were? A test series in Australia is hard enough as it is without some decent warmup games

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      @rotated said in Ashes 2021-22:

      @majorrage said in Ashes 2021-22:

      The point is that I think they have the talent pool to do much better than they have. Currently tho they don’t have the mentality.

      I’m not an England supporter at all with cricket.

      But I really can’t stand crowing Australians. Not that long ago Warne was calling India easily the best team in the world …. After they’d beaten England. Oh, and lost to us a month earlier.

      Agree.

      They are in opener hell and for that there isn't really an obvious way out - so I kind of give them a pass on that (even though selections have been dubious there)

      But between Malan, Morgan, Buttler, Ballance, Bairstow, Vince, Pope and Crawley it's just bizarre they haven't been able to produce three steady test performers going into this series.

      Were they underdone going into the series like we were? A test series in Australia is hard enough as it is without some decent warmup games

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      @canefan said in Ashes 2021-22:

      @rotated said in Ashes 2021-22:

      @majorrage said in Ashes 2021-22:

      The point is that I think they have the talent pool to do much better than they have. Currently tho they don’t have the mentality.

      I’m not an England supporter at all with cricket.

      But I really can’t stand crowing Australians. Not that long ago Warne was calling India easily the best team in the world …. After they’d beaten England. Oh, and lost to us a month earlier.

      Agree.

      They are in opener hell and for that there isn't really an obvious way out - so I kind of give them a pass on that (even though selections have been dubious there)

      But between Malan, Morgan, Buttler, Ballance, Bairstow, Vince, Pope and Crawley it's just bizarre they haven't been able to produce three steady test performers going into this series.

      Were they underdone going into the series like we were? A test series in Australia is hard enough as it is without some decent warmup games

      Yes they were, although that was partly if their own making, having chosen to play little red ball cricket and rotate the squad that was playing red ball.

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      • CatograndeC Catogrande

        @canefan said in Ashes 2021-22:

        @rotated said in Ashes 2021-22:

        @majorrage said in Ashes 2021-22:

        The point is that I think they have the talent pool to do much better than they have. Currently tho they don’t have the mentality.

        I’m not an England supporter at all with cricket.

        But I really can’t stand crowing Australians. Not that long ago Warne was calling India easily the best team in the world …. After they’d beaten England. Oh, and lost to us a month earlier.

        Agree.

        They are in opener hell and for that there isn't really an obvious way out - so I kind of give them a pass on that (even though selections have been dubious there)

        But between Malan, Morgan, Buttler, Ballance, Bairstow, Vince, Pope and Crawley it's just bizarre they haven't been able to produce three steady test performers going into this series.

        Were they underdone going into the series like we were? A test series in Australia is hard enough as it is without some decent warmup games

        Yes they were, although that was partly if their own making, having chosen to play little red ball cricket and rotate the squad that was playing red ball.

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        @catogrande said in Ashes 2021-22:

        @canefan said in Ashes 2021-22:

        @rotated said in Ashes 2021-22:

        @majorrage said in Ashes 2021-22:

        The point is that I think they have the talent pool to do much better than they have. Currently tho they don’t have the mentality.

        I’m not an England supporter at all with cricket.

        But I really can’t stand crowing Australians. Not that long ago Warne was calling India easily the best team in the world …. After they’d beaten England. Oh, and lost to us a month earlier.

        Agree.

        They are in opener hell and for that there isn't really an obvious way out - so I kind of give them a pass on that (even though selections have been dubious there)

        But between Malan, Morgan, Buttler, Ballance, Bairstow, Vince, Pope and Crawley it's just bizarre they haven't been able to produce three steady test performers going into this series.

        Were they underdone going into the series like we were? A test series in Australia is hard enough as it is without some decent warmup games

        Yes they were, although that was partly if their own making, having chosen to play little red ball cricket and rotate the squad that was playing red ball.

        We had no warm up games either. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot

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        • CatograndeC Catogrande

          @majorrage

          I fear that you are right in what you say. There seems to be something wrong in the current set up. This has been papered over by a few good results that really have been driven by Root standing tall and the odd bit of help from random others along the way.

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          @catogrande said in Ashes 2021-22:

          @majorrage

          I fear that you are right in what you say. There seems to be something wrong in the current set up. This has been papered over by a few good results that really have been driven by Root standing tall and the odd bit of help from random others along the way.

          I'm pretty much far away from cricket these days, but watched an hour or two of the game and it seemed to me the batsmen just ween't there mentally.

          You're spot-on about Root standing tall - what a player - but I think Anderson has been immense as well.

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          • canefanC canefan

            @catogrande said in Ashes 2021-22:

            @canefan said in Ashes 2021-22:

            @rotated said in Ashes 2021-22:

            @majorrage said in Ashes 2021-22:

            The point is that I think they have the talent pool to do much better than they have. Currently tho they don’t have the mentality.

            I’m not an England supporter at all with cricket.

            But I really can’t stand crowing Australians. Not that long ago Warne was calling India easily the best team in the world …. After they’d beaten England. Oh, and lost to us a month earlier.

            Agree.

            They are in opener hell and for that there isn't really an obvious way out - so I kind of give them a pass on that (even though selections have been dubious there)

            But between Malan, Morgan, Buttler, Ballance, Bairstow, Vince, Pope and Crawley it's just bizarre they haven't been able to produce three steady test performers going into this series.

            Were they underdone going into the series like we were? A test series in Australia is hard enough as it is without some decent warmup games

            Yes they were, although that was partly if their own making, having chosen to play little red ball cricket and rotate the squad that was playing red ball.

            We had no warm up games either. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot

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            @canefan said in Ashes 2021-22:

            @catogrande said in Ashes 2021-22:

            @canefan said in Ashes 2021-22:

            @rotated said in Ashes 2021-22:

            @majorrage said in Ashes 2021-22:

            The point is that I think they have the talent pool to do much better than they have. Currently tho they don’t have the mentality.

            I’m not an England supporter at all with cricket.

            But I really can’t stand crowing Australians. Not that long ago Warne was calling India easily the best team in the world …. After they’d beaten England. Oh, and lost to us a month earlier.

            Agree.

            They are in opener hell and for that there isn't really an obvious way out - so I kind of give them a pass on that (even though selections have been dubious there)

            But between Malan, Morgan, Buttler, Ballance, Bairstow, Vince, Pope and Crawley it's just bizarre they haven't been able to produce three steady test performers going into this series.

            Were they underdone going into the series like we were? A test series in Australia is hard enough as it is without some decent warmup games

            Yes they were, although that was partly if their own making, having chosen to play little red ball cricket and rotate the squad that was playing red ball.

            We had no warm up games either. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot

            And of course nothing in between tests. Therefore someone like Crawley coming in in the third test has no actual cricket for an age.

            Edit: Not played anything meaningful since September.

            Here you go mate, you’ve not played for months and not at all in Australia, you go in first dig against Cummins, Starc etc at the MCG.

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              Aren't England Lions touring concurrently? Shouldn't the non playing members join them for your games?

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              • boobooB booboo

                Aren't England Lions touring concurrently? Shouldn't the non playing members join them for your games?

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                @booboo said in Ashes 2021-22:

                Aren't England Lions touring concurrently? Shouldn't the non playing members join them for your games?

                Would make more sense.

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                  "Your" should have been "tour"

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                    "Your" should have been "tour"

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                    @booboo said in Ashes 2021-22:

                    "Your" should have been "tour"

                    Either works šŸ˜€

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                    • CatograndeC Catogrande

                      @canefan said in Ashes 2021-22:

                      @rotated said in Ashes 2021-22:

                      @majorrage said in Ashes 2021-22:

                      The point is that I think they have the talent pool to do much better than they have. Currently tho they don’t have the mentality.

                      I’m not an England supporter at all with cricket.

                      But I really can’t stand crowing Australians. Not that long ago Warne was calling India easily the best team in the world …. After they’d beaten England. Oh, and lost to us a month earlier.

                      Agree.

                      They are in opener hell and for that there isn't really an obvious way out - so I kind of give them a pass on that (even though selections have been dubious there)

                      But between Malan, Morgan, Buttler, Ballance, Bairstow, Vince, Pope and Crawley it's just bizarre they haven't been able to produce three steady test performers going into this series.

                      Were they underdone going into the series like we were? A test series in Australia is hard enough as it is without some decent warmup games

                      Yes they were, although that was partly if their own making, having chosen to play little red ball cricket and rotate the squad that was playing red ball.

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                      @catogrande said in Ashes 2021-22:

                      @canefan said in Ashes 2021-22:

                      @rotated said in Ashes 2021-22:

                      @majorrage said in Ashes 2021-22:

                      The point is that I think they have the talent pool to do much better than they have. Currently tho they don’t have the mentality.

                      I’m not an England supporter at all with cricket.

                      But I really can’t stand crowing Australians. Not that long ago Warne was calling India easily the best team in the world …. After they’d beaten England. Oh, and lost to us a month earlier.

                      Agree.

                      They are in opener hell and for that there isn't really an obvious way out - so I kind of give them a pass on that (even though selections have been dubious there)

                      But between Malan, Morgan, Buttler, Ballance, Bairstow, Vince, Pope and Crawley it's just bizarre they haven't been able to produce three steady test performers going into this series.

                      Were they underdone going into the series like we were? A test series in Australia is hard enough as it is without some decent warmup games

                      Yes they were, although that was partly if their own making, having chosen to play little red ball cricket and rotate the squad that was playing red ball.

                      Also because first test was in Brisbane they spent warm up opportunity time doing quarantine. Should have been re-jigged to start NSW or Vic.

                      Still would have been a one-sided slaughter regardless. But CA insistence on doing traditional first test at Gabbatoir has probably cost them a few days gate revenue (and rising) over course of the series.

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                        Ouch. That’s rough when a bowler who bats a bit overtakes you.

                        I’ve picked on Stokes a bit in the past but I genuinely hope he can battle back, the rest of this cluster fuck of a series could do with some battling displays from him.

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                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                          Leach might be the worst test cricketer I have seen

                          And I've seen some really ordinary ones

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                          @mariner4life said in Ashes 2021-22:

                          Leach might be the worst test cricketer I have seen

                          And I've seen some really ordinary ones

                          @mariner4life said in Ashes 2021-22:

                          Leach might be the worst test cricketer I have seen

                          And I've seen some really ordinary ones

                          He makes Satnav look like a world beater.

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                            @mariner4life said in Ashes 2021-22:

                            Leach might be the worst test cricketer I have seen

                            And I've seen some really ordinary ones

                            @mariner4life said in Ashes 2021-22:

                            Leach might be the worst test cricketer I have seen

                            And I've seen some really ordinary ones

                            He makes Satnav look like a world beater.

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                            @crucial said in Ashes 2021-22:

                            @mariner4life said in Ashes 2021-22:

                            Leach might be the worst test cricketer I have seen

                            And I've seen some really ordinary ones

                            @mariner4life said in Ashes 2021-22:

                            Leach might be the worst test cricketer I have seen

                            And I've seen some really ordinary ones

                            He makes Satnav look like a world beater.

                            Fuck no, ridiculous comment. He has a perfectly respectable career, just had a shocker alongside loads of others.

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                              952FC08F-D895-4DA3-B6F7-AC681DCBDE85.jpeg

                              Ouch. That’s rough when a bowler who bats a bit overtakes you.

                              I’ve picked on Stokes a bit in the past but I genuinely hope he can battle back, the rest of this cluster fuck of a series could do with some battling displays from him.

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                              @mn5 said in Ashes 2021-22:

                              I’ve picked on Stokes a bit in the past but I genuinely hope he can battle back, the rest of this cluster fuck of a series could do with some battling displays from him.

                              You ranga types need to stick together

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                                @mn5 said in Ashes 2021-22:

                                I’ve picked on Stokes a bit in the past but I genuinely hope he can battle back, the rest of this cluster fuck of a series could do with some battling displays from him.

                                You ranga types need to stick together

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                                @nta said in Ashes 2021-22:

                                @mn5 said in Ashes 2021-22:

                                I’ve picked on Stokes a bit in the past but I genuinely hope he can battle back, the rest of this cluster fuck of a series could do with some battling displays from him.

                                You ranga types need to stick together

                                Oi, you promised!

                                @nta said in Fernies and Sporties..and the Winners are...:

                                @canerbry said in Fernies and Sporties..and the Winners are...:

                                Fuckin robbed.

                                That's what I was thinking.

                                I'm not speaking to any of you fluffybunnies for the rest of the year....

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                                  He doesn't count. Rangas don't have souls.

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                                    https://twitter.com/ChristypDoran/status/1476432754686369796?t=d3N2N2g2K9-SYJNTz4GIQw&s=19

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                                    • NTAN NTA

                                      He doesn't count. Rangas don't have souls.

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                                      @nta said in Ashes 2021-22:

                                      He doesn't count. Rangas don't have souls.

                                      Can confirm

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                                        https://twitter.com/SydneyBluenose/status/1476345996598677508?t=9ZxvzsodanKMpNtAi2DvYA&s=19

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                                          Andrew Miller on switch hit podcast with the observation that England managed to have their best day of the series in a match they lost in 2 (and a bit) days.

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