European Club Rugby
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@bones said in NH club rugby:
@catogrande said in NH club rugby:
“cultural appropriation”
Care to enlighten?
As @Machpants said. For probably around 100 years Exeter's first team were referred to as the Chiefs with the Braves being the second team. A few years back they re-branded themselves as the Exeter Chiefs, about the same time as the Leicester Tigers (always been known as Tigers due to their striped jerseys), Sale Sharks, Newcastle Falcons etc. The supporters have taken on this branding and many wear native american headdresses a la the 1950s US western film style. Then there is the moronic chant referred to as the Tomahawk Chop.
Wasps had decided, at board level, to question the suitability of all this in the run up to the game. The issue had been raised "by one of our supporter groups" and therefore "shouldn't be ignored". If the issue is that important why wait until the week before the game to bring it up? Why not air this at the AGM of Premiership Rugby?
Disregarding for a moment the aspect of possible cultural appropriation, it smacks of having a go at disruption before the game. Political shit-stirring.
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And the two waterboys in question (actually coaches) have been charged. By the RFU rather than the judiciary I think.
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What has happened at Wasps since they have taken John Mitchell onto their coaching staff? In the first round of the Guiness European Rugby Champs last weekend they got absolutely pumped at home by Munster who were missing heaps of first choice players and had not played a game in about six weeks. Admittedly the Brad Shields red carding was something only Monsieur Poite thought was a good idea and it was a big factor but seriously they looked almost clueless in their attacking plans.
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Seven Saffas in the starting lineup for Sale in their match kicking off against Wasps this morning, and another in the reserves.
https://www.flashscore.com/match/zF2GJwk3/#match-summary/lineups
Either there aren't enough Poms to go round up Manchester way or maybe the Saffa players represent better value for money.
We think we have it tough over here on ticket prices well to get a main stand adult ticket for this match will set you back 42 quid -
Seven Saffas in the starting lineup for Sale in their match kicking off against Wasps this morning, and another in the reserves.
https://www.flashscore.com/match/zF2GJwk3/#match-summary/lineups
Either there aren't enough Poms to go round up Manchester way or maybe the Saffa players represent better value for money.
We think we have it tough over here on ticket prices well to get a main stand adult ticket for this match will set you back 42 quidIt’s becoming very expensive in the UK to watch rugby live now. On my way to the Exeter v Bristol game now with my £39 standing ticket in my pocket. Looking forward to paying £6 for a pint and more for pasties. My mate has just taken out a debenture for a seat in the new stand. £5k loan for 10 years. No interest paid snd a miserly 5% discount on the match tickets
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It’s becoming very expensive in the UK to watch rugby live now. On my way to the Exeter v Bristol game now with my £39 standing ticket in my pocket. Looking forward to paying £6 for a pint and more for pasties. My mate has just taken out a debenture for a seat in the new stand. £5k loan for 10 years. No interest paid snd a miserly 5% discount on the match tickets
@catogrande said in NH club rugby:
It’s becoming very expensive in the UK to watch rugby live now. On my way to the Exeter v Bristol game now with my £39 standing ticket in my pocket. Looking forward to paying £6 for a pint and more for pasties. My mate has just taken out a debenture for a seat in the new stand. £5k loan for 10 years. No interest paid snd a miserly 5% discount on the match tickets
Just watched that game you went to cato, I do enjoy getting up and watching games live over breakfast, and find I really enjoy the Gallagher Shield.
I would think your mate would have to be considered a bloody keen supporter to take out that debenture, but kudos to him regardless! -
Look who is still running around up north, it's none other than Aleki Lutiu of 2003-6 Chiefs vintage. Doing well, obviously as a prop nowadays, to still be fronting up on the bench this morning for Ampthill as they dumped London Scottish 36 - 17 in the Pommy Div 2 Championship.
www.ampthillrufc.com/teams/seniors/1stxv/1st-xv-squad/
Aleki in action earlier this season -
@catogrande said in NH club rugby:
It’s becoming very expensive in the UK to watch rugby live now. On my way to the Exeter v Bristol game now with my £39 standing ticket in my pocket. Looking forward to paying £6 for a pint and more for pasties. My mate has just taken out a debenture for a seat in the new stand. £5k loan for 10 years. No interest paid snd a miserly 5% discount on the match tickets
Just watched that game you went to cato, I do enjoy getting up and watching games live over breakfast, and find I really enjoy the Gallagher Shield.
I would think your mate would have to be considered a bloody keen supporter to take out that debenture, but kudos to him regardless!Was not the best game but was a great atmosphere. Beer in 2 pint mugs. One for each half
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It’s becoming very expensive in the UK to watch rugby live now. On my way to the Exeter v Bristol game now with my £39 standing ticket in my pocket. Looking forward to paying £6 for a pint and more for pasties. My mate has just taken out a debenture for a seat in the new stand. £5k loan for 10 years. No interest paid snd a miserly 5% discount on the match tickets
@catogrande said in NH club rugby:
It’s becoming very expensive in the UK to watch rugby live now. On my way to the Exeter v Bristol game now with my £39 standing ticket in my pocket. Looking forward to paying £6 for a pint and more for pasties. My mate has just taken out a debenture for a seat in the new stand. £5k loan for 10 years. No interest paid snd a miserly 5% discount on the match tickets
WTF!
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@catogrande said in NH club rugby:
It’s becoming very expensive in the UK to watch rugby live now. On my way to the Exeter v Bristol game now with my £39 standing ticket in my pocket. Looking forward to paying £6 for a pint and more for pasties. My mate has just taken out a debenture for a seat in the new stand. £5k loan for 10 years. No interest paid snd a miserly 5% discount on the match tickets
WTF!
@nepia said in NH club rugby:
@catogrande said in NH club rugby:
It’s becoming very expensive in the UK to watch rugby live now. On my way to the Exeter v Bristol game now with my £39 standing ticket in my pocket. Looking forward to paying £6 for a pint and more for pasties. My mate has just taken out a debenture for a seat in the new stand. £5k loan for 10 years. No interest paid snd a miserly 5% discount on the match tickets
WTF!
Now you know how they can afford high salaries for their players
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@nepia said in NH club rugby:
@catogrande said in NH club rugby:
It’s becoming very expensive in the UK to watch rugby live now. On my way to the Exeter v Bristol game now with my £39 standing ticket in my pocket. Looking forward to paying £6 for a pint and more for pasties. My mate has just taken out a debenture for a seat in the new stand. £5k loan for 10 years. No interest paid snd a miserly 5% discount on the match tickets
WTF!
Now you know how they can afford high salaries for their players
@nzzp Here is something about the owners wealth. admittedly it is a couple of years old and some of them have since sold up and moved on but gives you an indication of what resources are behind the clubs.
https://www.therugbypaper.co.uk/all/domestic-club-rugby-union/33205/who-is-the-premiership-richest-club-owner/ -
@nzzp Here is something about the owners wealth. admittedly it is a couple of years old and some of them have since sold up and moved on but gives you an indication of what resources are behind the clubs.
https://www.therugbypaper.co.uk/all/domestic-club-rugby-union/33205/who-is-the-premiership-richest-club-owner/@higgins said in NH club rugby:
@nzzp Here is something about the owners wealth. admittedly it is a couple of years old and some of them have since sold up and moved on but gives you an indication of what resources are behind the clubs.
https://www.therugbypaper.co.uk/all/domestic-club-rugby-union/33205/who-is-the-premiership-richest-club-owner/Salary cap is now 5 million plus 2 (I think) no limit players. France is twice as much, not sure about Japan if there is one?
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@higgins said in NH club rugby:
@nzzp Here is something about the owners wealth. admittedly it is a couple of years old and some of them have since sold up and moved on but gives you an indication of what resources are behind the clubs.
https://www.therugbypaper.co.uk/all/domestic-club-rugby-union/33205/who-is-the-premiership-richest-club-owner/Salary cap is now 5 million plus 2 (I think) no limit players. France is twice as much, not sure about Japan if there is one?
@machpants said in NH club rugby:
@higgins said in NH club rugby:
@nzzp Here is something about the owners wealth. admittedly it is a couple of years old and some of them have since sold up and moved on but gives you an indication of what resources are behind the clubs.
https://www.therugbypaper.co.uk/all/domestic-club-rugby-union/33205/who-is-the-premiership-richest-club-owner/Salary cap is now 5 million plus 2 (I think) no limit players. France is twice as much, not sure about Japan if there is one?
Not quite as simple as that. It was more but is being cut by 1 million for next year and this sudden reduction is unsurprisingly causing problems. Also you’re allowed 1 (previously 2) marquee signings which do not count towards the cap. You get a 50% (I think) reduction if a player has come up through your academy. So the 5M cap is not necessarily the actual limit on the payroll. The changes are resulting in quite a lot of movement and I’d expect some to go to France and Japan in the near future.
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Was not the best game but was a great atmosphere. Beer in 2 pint mugs. One for each half
@catogrande said in NH club rugby:
Was not the best game but was a great atmosphere. Beer in 2 pint mugs. One for each half
Sounds great, I was meant to be in Wales/England this time 3 years ago, basically wanted to catch some club stuff, but broke my leg in Italy on the way, so am kind of hoping to head over in 3 years (covid permitting, so may want to meet up for a beer!
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Was not the best game but was a great atmosphere. Beer in 2 pint mugs. One for each half
@catogrande said in NH club rugby:
Was not the best game but was a great atmosphere. Beer in 2 pint mugs. One for each half
What do they serve at Sandy Park? Gotta be better than fkn Steinlager pisswater that is always forced upon me at ABs matches!
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@catogrande said in NH club rugby:
Was not the best game but was a great atmosphere. Beer in 2 pint mugs. One for each half
Sounds great, I was meant to be in Wales/England this time 3 years ago, basically wanted to catch some club stuff, but broke my leg in Italy on the way, so am kind of hoping to head over in 3 years (covid permitting, so may want to meet up for a beer!
14,100 in for a club match. West Country derby too.
If you do get to the UK and make it this far west, a beer would definitely be on the cards.
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@catogrande said in NH club rugby:
Was not the best game but was a great atmosphere. Beer in 2 pint mugs. One for each half
What do they serve at Sandy Park? Gotta be better than fkn Steinlager pisswater that is always forced upon me at ABs matches!
@machpants said in NH club rugby:
@catogrande said in NH club rugby:
Was not the best game but was a great atmosphere. Beer in 2 pint mugs. One for each half
What do they serve at Sandy Park? Gotta be better than fkn Steinlager pisswater that is always forced upon me at ABs matches!
The hospitality is quite varied with several bars serving a variety of beers, lagers and wine. There are also some mini bars selling gin and prosecco. The main beer is a local brew, Otter Bitter, to which I am very partial to. There was also some craft stuff that my future ex son-in-law liked.
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@machpants said in NH club rugby:
@catogrande said in NH club rugby:
Was not the best game but was a great atmosphere. Beer in 2 pint mugs. One for each half
What do they serve at Sandy Park? Gotta be better than fkn Steinlager pisswater that is always forced upon me at ABs matches!
The hospitality is quite varied with several bars serving a variety of beers, lagers and wine. There are also some mini bars selling gin and prosecco. The main beer is a local brew, Otter Bitter, to which I am very partial to. There was also some craft stuff that my future ex son-in-law liked.
@catogrande said in NH club rugby:
Otter Bitter
Yeah I like that, very nice drop indeed. Session beer IIRC, lovely. I think we had it at the Double Locks when we were there in 2015, watched Namibia Tonga IIRC
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@catogrande said in NH club rugby:
Otter Bitter
Yeah I like that, very nice drop indeed. Session beer IIRC, lovely. I think we had it at the Double Locks when we were there in 2015, watched Namibia Tonga IIRC
@machpants said in NH club rugby:
@catogrande said in NH club rugby:
Otter Bitter
Yeah I like that, very nice drop indeed. Session beer IIRC, lovely. I think we had it at the Double Locks when we were there in 2015, watched Namibia Tonga IIRC
Yeah only about 3.8%, so very quaffable. The Locks is a Youngs pub but always has one or two guest beers. Did you walk there or drive over the narrow swing bridge?
