Electric Vehicles
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Volvo has been using Polestar as its in-house tuning arm for some time. They used to provide upgrade options that gave their production cars stupid levels of extra horsepower, Brembo brakes, tunable suspension dampers etc. A couple of years ago they spun it off as a separate brand that would be more performance based. Originally people thought they would do Polestar = only EVs and Volvo = ICEs and hybrids. But now that Volvo has also gone heavily into electrification there needs to be a new point of difference. The suggestion is that now Volvo have committed to an absolute top speed cap they will use the Polestar brand to serve as the tech testbed and performance brand to match the Germans.
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Interesting test from Matt Watson.
Summary - the Kia and BMW were best performing - they did 91% of their claimed range (Kia won overall) and the Mach-E (entry version) also did well with 3.7 KWH. Audi looks a bad bet in comparison to the Skoda. I still think the Ioniq looks cool.
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@nta said in Electric Vehicles:
Next week is beach driving but it'll all be on the flat, not dunes so much. Just let the tyres down to ~20psi and don't make too many sharp turns
Beach driving was fun. Only got stuck once when I picked the wrong soft spot, and the TRED boards did the job getting out. That was on highway tyres and 17" rims - AT rubber on 15" would have made it even easier.
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@nta didn't join the 40PSI club getting bogged?
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@antipodean said in Electric Vehicles:
@nta didn't join the 40PSI club getting bogged?
Nope. Started at 20 and dropped to 18 after I got stuck.
Saw a couple of Range Rovers out there running highway pressures on 20 inch rims. Those tyres are almost a fucking foot wide tho and only got a couple of km down the beach where it was still firm.
The Thumper Air Compressor I bought was fucking ace return we got back to the road tho. Good output for a small unit.
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@bones said in Electric Vehicles:
@gt12 said in Electric Vehicles:
I still think the Ioniq looks cool
Seen it in the flesh? Have seen a few similar to below flitting around and it's uuuuuuuugly.
That's the previous model to the Ioniq 5, which does look cool
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@nta said in Electric Vehicles:
@bones said in Electric Vehicles:
@gt12 said in Electric Vehicles:
I still think the Ioniq looks cool
Seen it in the flesh? Have seen a few similar to below flitting around and it's uuuuuuuugly.
That's the previous model to the Ioniq 5, which does look cool
Yeah, the newer model looks much better. Not seen one of those yet.
I didn't bother arranging a test drive after the disappointment of the Kia..
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@nta said in Electric Vehicles:
@bones said in Electric Vehicles:
@gt12 said in Electric Vehicles:
I still think the Ioniq looks cool
Seen it in the flesh? Have seen a few similar to below flitting around and it's uuuuuuuugly.
That's the previous model to the Ioniq 5, which does look cool
Based on that test, I think I'm even closer to buying the PHEV X3 (or perhaps the Volvo).
I'm not quite ready to commit to electric (charging at apartments is not easy) and that BMW isn't 4WD, which is a requirement for us next time.
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@gt12 said in Electric Vehicles:
@nta said in Electric Vehicles:
@bones said in Electric Vehicles:
@gt12 said in Electric Vehicles:
I still think the Ioniq looks cool
Seen it in the flesh? Have seen a few similar to below flitting around and it's uuuuuuuugly.
That's the previous model to the Ioniq 5, which does look cool
Based on that test, I think I'm even closer to buying the PHEV X3 (or perhaps the Volvo).
I'm not quite ready to commit to electric (charging at apartments is not easy) and that BMW isn't 4WD, which is a requirement for us next time.
It's worth noting that if you are looking at the X3, the facelift is a significant step up from the one Matt drove. Same powertrain, but remodelled interior, fair few exterior changes as well.
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@gt12 said in Electric Vehicles:
that BMW isn't 4WD, which is a requirement for us next time.
One thought I had while out on the sand today: I'm glad I'm doing this in a 1500kg X-Trail and not something like the XC40 EV at 2100kg. Would need all that extra power.
I covered about 25km on the beach and burned a fuckload of petrol. How much electricity would that be?
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I’ve just ticked over 5000km since getting the PHEV on 28 July. The computer tells me that of that I’ve covered 1219 km on petrol with the rest on battery. It’s a big, heavy car and as I leave it in Hybrid mode (usually) the petrol engine is obviously kicking in under higher loads. So it’s no surprise the average consumption on petrol is 10.5 l/100km. So all up the fuel cost for the 5000km is $287.47. That’s not bad tbh. I’ve had cars that averaged 20+ l/100km.
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@jc said in Electric Vehicles:
I’ve just ticked over 5000km since getting the PHEV on 28 July. The computer tells me that of that I’ve covered 1219 km on petrol with the rest on battery. It’s a big, heavy car and as I leave it in Hybrid mode (usually) the petrol engine is obviously kicking in under higher loads. So it’s no surprise the average consumption on petrol is 10.5 l/100km. So all up the fuel cost for the 5000km is $287.47. That’s not bad tbh. I’ve had cars that averaged 20+ l/100km.
That's outstanding. I get about 800ks out of my tank that costs me around $160-$180 to fill at the moment. I like your car a lot!
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@hooroo said in Electric Vehicles:
@jc said in Electric Vehicles:
I’ve just ticked over 5000km since getting the PHEV on 28 July. The computer tells me that of that I’ve covered 1219 km on petrol with the rest on battery. It’s a big, heavy car and as I leave it in Hybrid mode (usually) the petrol engine is obviously kicking in under higher loads. So it’s no surprise the average consumption on petrol is 10.5 l/100km. So all up the fuel cost for the 5000km is $287.47. That’s not bad tbh. I’ve had cars that averaged 20+ l/100km.
That's outstanding. I get about 800ks out of my tank that costs me around $160-$180 to fill at the moment. I like your car a lot!
Is that diesel? Does it include the annual fee thing you have in NZ?
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@nta said in Electric Vehicles:
@hooroo said in Electric Vehicles:
@jc said in Electric Vehicles:
I’ve just ticked over 5000km since getting the PHEV on 28 July. The computer tells me that of that I’ve covered 1219 km on petrol with the rest on battery. It’s a big, heavy car and as I leave it in Hybrid mode (usually) the petrol engine is obviously kicking in under higher loads. So it’s no surprise the average consumption on petrol is 10.5 l/100km. So all up the fuel cost for the 5000km is $287.47. That’s not bad tbh. I’ve had cars that averaged 20+ l/100km.
That's outstanding. I get about 800ks out of my tank that costs me around $160-$180 to fill at the moment. I like your car a lot!
Is that diesel? Does it include the annual fee thing you have in NZ?
No, Petrol. No RUC's on top. They are included in price of Petrol.
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So spent a good part of the long weekend going round car yards with partner who is looking at a new SUV. Initially thinking PHEV now edging towards full EV or was until she discovered that effectively you order now and hope to take delivery in Q3. That's for every manufacturer.
Volvo you can't even do a test drive. Why would you spend close to 6 figures on a car you can't test? Madness!
She's now totally conflicted as there are new models coming out in that timeframe so she's getting all angsty with lashings of FOMO as well.
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interesting piece of intel you can do with what you will, the prices of batteries is about to go UP, rather than the constant decrease as tech improves that we were sort of sold.
If you were thinking of going EV, might be a good time to get your order in, lead time be damned.
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@mariner4life commodity prices suck for that.
Bunch of people waving the solid-state flag which would be interesting.
