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    @nta didn't join the 40PSI club getting bogged?

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    @gt12 said in Electric Vehicles:

    I still think the Ioniq looks cool

    Seen it in the flesh? Have seen a few similar to below flitting around and it's uuuuuuuugly.

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    @antipodean said in Electric Vehicles:

    @nta didn't join the 40PSI club getting bogged?

    Nope. Started at 20 and dropped to 18 after I got stuck.

    Saw a couple of Range Rovers out there running highway pressures on 20 inch rims. Those tyres are almost a fucking foot wide tho and only got a couple of km down the beach where it was still firm.

    The Thumper Air Compressor I bought was fucking ace return we got back to the road tho. Good output for a small unit.

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    @bones said in Electric Vehicles:

    @gt12 said in Electric Vehicles:

    I still think the Ioniq looks cool

    Seen it in the flesh? Have seen a few similar to below flitting around and it's uuuuuuuugly.

    That's the previous model to the Ioniq 5, which does look cool

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    @nta said in Electric Vehicles:

    @bones said in Electric Vehicles:

    @gt12 said in Electric Vehicles:

    I still think the Ioniq looks cool

    Seen it in the flesh? Have seen a few similar to below flitting around and it's uuuuuuuugly.

    That's the previous model to the Ioniq 5, which does look cool

    Yeah, the newer model looks much better. Not seen one of those yet.

    I didn't bother arranging a test drive after the disappointment of the Kia..

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    @nta said in Electric Vehicles:

    @bones said in Electric Vehicles:

    @gt12 said in Electric Vehicles:

    I still think the Ioniq looks cool

    Seen it in the flesh? Have seen a few similar to below flitting around and it's uuuuuuuugly.

    That's the previous model to the Ioniq 5, which does look cool

    Based on that test, I think I'm even closer to buying the PHEV X3 (or perhaps the Volvo).

    I'm not quite ready to commit to electric (charging at apartments is not easy) and that BMW isn't 4WD, which is a requirement for us next time.

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    @gt12 said in Electric Vehicles:

    @nta said in Electric Vehicles:

    @bones said in Electric Vehicles:

    @gt12 said in Electric Vehicles:

    I still think the Ioniq looks cool

    Seen it in the flesh? Have seen a few similar to below flitting around and it's uuuuuuuugly.

    That's the previous model to the Ioniq 5, which does look cool

    Based on that test, I think I'm even closer to buying the PHEV X3 (or perhaps the Volvo).

    I'm not quite ready to commit to electric (charging at apartments is not easy) and that BMW isn't 4WD, which is a requirement for us next time.

    It's worth noting that if you are looking at the X3, the facelift is a significant step up from the one Matt drove. Same powertrain, but remodelled interior, fair few exterior changes as well.

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    @gt12 said in Electric Vehicles:

    that BMW isn't 4WD, which is a requirement for us next time.

    One thought I had while out on the sand today: I'm glad I'm doing this in a 1500kg X-Trail and not something like the XC40 EV at 2100kg. Would need all that extra power.

    I covered about 25km on the beach and burned a fuckload of petrol. How much electricity would that be? 🤔

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    I’ve just ticked over 5000km since getting the PHEV on 28 July. The computer tells me that of that I’ve covered 1219 km on petrol with the rest on battery. It’s a big, heavy car and as I leave it in Hybrid mode (usually) the petrol engine is obviously kicking in under higher loads. So it’s no surprise the average consumption on petrol is 10.5 l/100km. So all up the fuel cost for the 5000km is $287.47. That’s not bad tbh. I’ve had cars that averaged 20+ l/100km.

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    @jc said in Electric Vehicles:

    I’ve just ticked over 5000km since getting the PHEV on 28 July. The computer tells me that of that I’ve covered 1219 km on petrol with the rest on battery. It’s a big, heavy car and as I leave it in Hybrid mode (usually) the petrol engine is obviously kicking in under higher loads. So it’s no surprise the average consumption on petrol is 10.5 l/100km. So all up the fuel cost for the 5000km is $287.47. That’s not bad tbh. I’ve had cars that averaged 20+ l/100km.

    That's outstanding. I get about 800ks out of my tank that costs me around $160-$180 to fill at the moment. I like your car a lot! 🙂

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    @jc So for me to do the equiv K's it costs me $1093.75 (At $175 to fill tank.)

    I get 4.47k's for a dollar and you get 17.42ks for a dollar.

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    @hooroo I get about 500km for the same price. Fortunately I don't actually pay.

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    @hooroo said in Electric Vehicles:

    @jc said in Electric Vehicles:

    I’ve just ticked over 5000km since getting the PHEV on 28 July. The computer tells me that of that I’ve covered 1219 km on petrol with the rest on battery. It’s a big, heavy car and as I leave it in Hybrid mode (usually) the petrol engine is obviously kicking in under higher loads. So it’s no surprise the average consumption on petrol is 10.5 l/100km. So all up the fuel cost for the 5000km is $287.47. That’s not bad tbh. I’ve had cars that averaged 20+ l/100km.

    That's outstanding. I get about 800ks out of my tank that costs me around $160-$180 to fill at the moment. I like your car a lot! 🙂

    Is that diesel? Does it include the annual fee thing you have in NZ?

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    @nta said in Electric Vehicles:

    @hooroo said in Electric Vehicles:

    @jc said in Electric Vehicles:

    I’ve just ticked over 5000km since getting the PHEV on 28 July. The computer tells me that of that I’ve covered 1219 km on petrol with the rest on battery. It’s a big, heavy car and as I leave it in Hybrid mode (usually) the petrol engine is obviously kicking in under higher loads. So it’s no surprise the average consumption on petrol is 10.5 l/100km. So all up the fuel cost for the 5000km is $287.47. That’s not bad tbh. I’ve had cars that averaged 20+ l/100km.

    That's outstanding. I get about 800ks out of my tank that costs me around $160-$180 to fill at the moment. I like your car a lot! 🙂

    Is that diesel? Does it include the annual fee thing you have in NZ?

    No, Petrol. No RUC's on top. They are included in price of Petrol.

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    So spent a good part of the long weekend going round car yards with partner who is looking at a new SUV. Initially thinking PHEV now edging towards full EV or was until she discovered that effectively you order now and hope to take delivery in Q3. That's for every manufacturer.

    Volvo you can't even do a test drive. Why would you spend close to 6 figures on a car you can't test? Madness!

    She's now totally conflicted as there are new models coming out in that timeframe so she's getting all angsty with lashings of FOMO as well.

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    interesting piece of intel you can do with what you will, the prices of batteries is about to go UP, rather than the constant decrease as tech improves that we were sort of sold.

    If you were thinking of going EV, might be a good time to get your order in, lead time be damned.

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    @mariner4life commodity prices suck for that.

    Bunch of people waving the solid-state flag which would be interesting.

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    @dogmeat said in Electric Vehicles:

    So spent a good part of the long weekend going round car yards with partner who is looking at a new SUV. Initially thinking PHEV now edging towards full EV or was until she discovered that effectively you order now and hope to take delivery in Q3. That's for every manufacturer.

    Volvo you can't even do a test drive. Why would you spend close to 6 figures on a car you can't test? Madness!

    She's now totally conflicted as there are new models coming out in that timeframe so she's getting all angsty with lashings of FOMO as well.

    Interested in a smaller EV? Perhaps the Cupra born?

    Cupra Born arrives in Australia - carsales.com.au

    Cupra Born arrives in Australia - carsales.com.au

    Spanish challenger brand’s halo EV touches down on Aussie soil for testing ahead of local launch

    Not sure if it is coming to NZ. It is supposed to arrive in Au, basically a nicer looking id3 with similar +s and -s.

    I'm not convinced the new Kia e-Niro is really that new but the Greenzone mode is a good idea for a suburban PHEV
    https://www.hotcars.com/2023-kia-niro-facts-features/ (ignore the hyperbole bits)

    Flying under the radar is the Lexus UX-300e, perhaps because it isn't that exciting (or roomy, or fast, or innovative). But compared to an ICE Lexus it looks ok value. Here is the NZ website: https://www.lexus.co.nz/en/models/ux/ux-300e-limited.html#overview
    Don't know the availability in NZ and Australia but advertised as if available.

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    @nostrildamus that looks like a great little hatch based on the videos I've seen.

    If the e-Niro was even AWD I'd be more interested in it.

    Sadly, I think I'm going to have to choose between the XC40 if I want to keep up a modicum of camping or softroading, or the Polestar2 if I go back to a sedan.

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    @nta said in Electric Vehicles:

    @nostrildamus that looks like a great little hatch based on the videos I've seen.

    If the e-Niro was even AWD I'd be more interested in it.

    Sadly, I think I'm going to have to choose between the XC40 if I want to keep up a modicum of camping or softroading, or the Polestar2 if I go back to a sedan.

    I like both. Volvo have really turned a corner for me stylewise but the XC40 is a mite expensive and the Polestar2 ain't great for a family with a mutt plus the costly adds are painful (but the base version looks a good deal in Oz).

    I think VW EVs will take years to arrive, the Arriya looks nice but is a bit of a mirage, and even the Skoda EV will take months or years to arrive and looks a little dumpy). Toyota's offering (let's make an ugly RAV at Lexus price) doesn't look a great option either.

    The AWD options-look pretty expensive/scarce on most EVs don't they? I'd be tempted to hire a dedicated AWD on trips rather than buy an AWD EV but I don't go offroad much.
    Then again the dual and triple motor versions (AWD) of this https://www.tesla.com/en_au/cybertruck might be good for surf fishing...looks like a tinny anyway

    And for those interested in the Ioniq 5 or Kia EV6 your partner must be better at parking in the garage than mine-those aren't small and narrow cars!

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