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  • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

    @kiwibloke said in All Blacks 2021:

    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:

    Loooool

    Here's a new one

    Henry was a shit coach but Laumape was the answer at 12 and an asset we needed to keep.

    Keep delivering Fern

    It's getting better. Havili is apparently the answer at 13.

    That's not getting started on the Laumape (5'7", 105 kgs) versus Nonu (6', 108kgs) comparisons.

    Who would you have at 13 then ? Rieko Ioane certainly isn't the answer, he gets caught out position every time he plays in the midfield, he tends to drift across to the wing most of the time, when he has performed well starting in the midfield it's always when he's attacked down the flanks... put him back on the wings where he belongs, why the hell would anyone want play one of the fastest wingers in the world out of position anyway ?

    L & N are not that tall compared to SBWs as a midfielder, think he was about 6'5'' he didn't break the advantage line up the guts as much them because they have a lower centre of gravity.

    in fairness, using your logic, Rieko hasn't had a long run of games at 13, they keep doing what you suggest by putting him back to 11. Surely if Laumape needed a long run to really settle in the black jersey so might Reiko?

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    @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2021:

    @kiwibloke said in All Blacks 2021:

    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:

    Loooool

    Here's a new one

    Henry was a shit coach but Laumape was the answer at 12 and an asset we needed to keep.

    Keep delivering Fern

    It's getting better. Havili is apparently the answer at 13.

    That's not getting started on the Laumape (5'7", 105 kgs) versus Nonu (6', 108kgs) comparisons.

    Who would you have at 13 then ? Rieko Ioane certainly isn't the answer, he gets caught out position every time he plays in the midfield, he tends to drift across to the wing most of the time, when he has performed well starting in the midfield it's always when he's attacked down the flanks... put him back on the wings where he belongs, why the hell would anyone want play one of the fastest wingers in the world out of position anyway ?

    L & N are not that tall compared to SBWs as a midfielder, think he was about 6'5'' he didn't break the advantage line up the guts as much them because they have a lower centre of gravity.

    in fairness, using your logic, Rieko hasn't had a long run of games at 13, they keep doing what you suggest by putting him back to 11. Surely if Laumape needed a long run to really settle in the black jersey so might Reiko?

    I personally am real interested to see how Reiko goes after a reasonably full Super season at 13, as I have said if thei RTS character is as good as some are indicating, they might just cause a rethink of midfield. I am a real ALB fan, but like always try and keep an open mind.

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      #2790

      Some players suit Super Rugby more than test rugby. Others suit test rugby more than Super Rugby. Laumape was the former.

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      • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

        @kiwibloke said in All Blacks 2021:

        @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

        @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:

        Loooool

        Here's a new one

        Henry was a shit coach but Laumape was the answer at 12 and an asset we needed to keep.

        Keep delivering Fern

        It's getting better. Havili is apparently the answer at 13.

        That's not getting started on the Laumape (5'7", 105 kgs) versus Nonu (6', 108kgs) comparisons.

        Who would you have at 13 then ? Rieko Ioane certainly isn't the answer, he gets caught out position every time he plays in the midfield, he tends to drift across to the wing most of the time, when he has performed well starting in the midfield it's always when he's attacked down the flanks... put him back on the wings where he belongs, why the hell would anyone want play one of the fastest wingers in the world out of position anyway ?

        L & N are not that tall compared to SBWs as a midfielder, think he was about 6'5'' he didn't break the advantage line up the guts as much them because they have a lower centre of gravity.

        in fairness, using your logic, Rieko hasn't had a long run of games at 13, they keep doing what you suggest by putting him back to 11. Surely if Laumape needed a long run to really settle in the black jersey so might Reiko?

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        #2791

        @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2021:

        @kiwibloke said in All Blacks 2021:

        @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

        @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:

        Loooool

        Here's a new one

        Henry was a shit coach but Laumape was the answer at 12 and an asset we needed to keep.

        Keep delivering Fern

        It's getting better. Havili is apparently the answer at 13.

        That's not getting started on the Laumape (5'7", 105 kgs) versus Nonu (6', 108kgs) comparisons.

        Who would you have at 13 then ? Rieko Ioane certainly isn't the answer, he gets caught out position every time he plays in the midfield, he tends to drift across to the wing most of the time, when he has performed well starting in the midfield it's always when he's attacked down the flanks... put him back on the wings where he belongs, why the hell would anyone want play one of the fastest wingers in the world out of position anyway ?

        L & N are not that tall compared to SBWs as a midfielder, think he was about 6'5'' he didn't break the advantage line up the guts as much them because they have a lower centre of gravity.

        in fairness, using your logic, Rieko hasn't had a long run of games at 13, they keep doing what you suggest by putting him back to 11. Surely if Laumape needed a long run to really settle in the black jersey so might Reiko?

        The bloke has had a really good crack at 13 with the Blues though & hasn't performed that well - also I look at player where he's going to add the most value for the team, for me it's his deadly pace, so would prefer him to be on the wing... him & Jordon would be my starting wingers for the ABs.

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        • get stuffedG get stuffed

          @antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:

          how many excuses can we come up with until we circle back to maybe he just wasn't that good?

          What absolute rubbish... as mentioned there are plenty of blokes like ALB & Goodue that had a ton of starts, yet offered very little on attack.

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          @kiwibloke said in All Blacks 2021:

          @antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:

          how many excuses can we come up with until we circle back to maybe he just wasn't that good?

          What absolute rubbish... as mentioned there are plenty of blokes like ALB & Goodue that had a ton of starts, yet offered very little on attack.

          ALB is twice the Test player Laumape is.

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          • get stuffedG get stuffed

            @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2021:

            @kiwibloke said in All Blacks 2021:

            @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

            @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:

            Loooool

            Here's a new one

            Henry was a shit coach but Laumape was the answer at 12 and an asset we needed to keep.

            Keep delivering Fern

            It's getting better. Havili is apparently the answer at 13.

            That's not getting started on the Laumape (5'7", 105 kgs) versus Nonu (6', 108kgs) comparisons.

            Who would you have at 13 then ? Rieko Ioane certainly isn't the answer, he gets caught out position every time he plays in the midfield, he tends to drift across to the wing most of the time, when he has performed well starting in the midfield it's always when he's attacked down the flanks... put him back on the wings where he belongs, why the hell would anyone want play one of the fastest wingers in the world out of position anyway ?

            L & N are not that tall compared to SBWs as a midfielder, think he was about 6'5'' he didn't break the advantage line up the guts as much them because they have a lower centre of gravity.

            in fairness, using your logic, Rieko hasn't had a long run of games at 13, they keep doing what you suggest by putting him back to 11. Surely if Laumape needed a long run to really settle in the black jersey so might Reiko?

            The bloke has had a really good crack at 13 with the Blues though & hasn't performed that well - also I look at player where he's going to add the most value for the team, for me it's his deadly pace, so would prefer him to be on the wing... him & Jordon would be my starting wingers for the ABs.

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            Kiwiwomble
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            #2793

            @kiwibloke said in All Blacks 2021:

            @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2021:

            @kiwibloke said in All Blacks 2021:

            @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

            @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:

            Loooool

            Here's a new one

            Henry was a shit coach but Laumape was the answer at 12 and an asset we needed to keep.

            Keep delivering Fern

            It's getting better. Havili is apparently the answer at 13.

            That's not getting started on the Laumape (5'7", 105 kgs) versus Nonu (6', 108kgs) comparisons.

            Who would you have at 13 then ? Rieko Ioane certainly isn't the answer, he gets caught out position every time he plays in the midfield, he tends to drift across to the wing most of the time, when he has performed well starting in the midfield it's always when he's attacked down the flanks... put him back on the wings where he belongs, why the hell would anyone want play one of the fastest wingers in the world out of position anyway ?

            L & N are not that tall compared to SBWs as a midfielder, think he was about 6'5'' he didn't break the advantage line up the guts as much them because they have a lower centre of gravity.

            in fairness, using your logic, Rieko hasn't had a long run of games at 13, they keep doing what you suggest by putting him back to 11. Surely if Laumape needed a long run to really settle in the black jersey so might Reiko?

            The bloke has had a really good crack at 13 with the Blues though & hasn't performed that well - also I look at player where he's going to add the most value for the team, for me it's his deadly pace, so would prefer him to be on the wing... him & Jordon would be my starting wingers for the ABs.

            i thought Reiko was pretty much a stand out at 13 for the blues

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            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

              Some players suit Super Rugby more than test rugby. Others suit test rugby more than Super Rugby. Laumape was the former.

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              @kiwimurph said in All Blacks 2021:

              Some players suit Super Rugby more than test rugby. Others suit test rugby more than Super Rugby. Laumape was the former.

              Mental toughness is vital, especially in test level, L certainly has that & the overall skill sets in his position.

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              • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                @kiwibloke said in All Blacks 2021:

                @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2021:

                @kiwibloke said in All Blacks 2021:

                @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

                @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                Loooool

                Here's a new one

                Henry was a shit coach but Laumape was the answer at 12 and an asset we needed to keep.

                Keep delivering Fern

                It's getting better. Havili is apparently the answer at 13.

                That's not getting started on the Laumape (5'7", 105 kgs) versus Nonu (6', 108kgs) comparisons.

                Who would you have at 13 then ? Rieko Ioane certainly isn't the answer, he gets caught out position every time he plays in the midfield, he tends to drift across to the wing most of the time, when he has performed well starting in the midfield it's always when he's attacked down the flanks... put him back on the wings where he belongs, why the hell would anyone want play one of the fastest wingers in the world out of position anyway ?

                L & N are not that tall compared to SBWs as a midfielder, think he was about 6'5'' he didn't break the advantage line up the guts as much them because they have a lower centre of gravity.

                in fairness, using your logic, Rieko hasn't had a long run of games at 13, they keep doing what you suggest by putting him back to 11. Surely if Laumape needed a long run to really settle in the black jersey so might Reiko?

                The bloke has had a really good crack at 13 with the Blues though & hasn't performed that well - also I look at player where he's going to add the most value for the team, for me it's his deadly pace, so would prefer him to be on the wing... him & Jordon would be my starting wingers for the ABs.

                i thought Reiko was pretty much a stand out at 13 for the blues

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                  #2796

                  @kiwibloke said in All Blacks 2021:

                  @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2021:

                  @kiwibloke said in All Blacks 2021:

                  @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2021:

                  @kiwibloke said in All Blacks 2021:

                  @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

                  @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                  Loooool

                  Here's a new one

                  Henry was a shit coach but Laumape was the answer at 12 and an asset we needed to keep.

                  Keep delivering Fern

                  It's getting better. Havili is apparently the answer at 13.

                  That's not getting started on the Laumape (5'7", 105 kgs) versus Nonu (6', 108kgs) comparisons.

                  Who would you have at 13 then ? Rieko Ioane certainly isn't the answer, he gets caught out position every time he plays in the midfield, he tends to drift across to the wing most of the time, when he has performed well starting in the midfield it's always when he's attacked down the flanks... put him back on the wings where he belongs, why the hell would anyone want play one of the fastest wingers in the world out of position anyway ?

                  L & N are not that tall compared to SBWs as a midfielder, think he was about 6'5'' he didn't break the advantage line up the guts as much them because they have a lower centre of gravity.

                  in fairness, using your logic, Rieko hasn't had a long run of games at 13, they keep doing what you suggest by putting him back to 11. Surely if Laumape needed a long run to really settle in the black jersey so might Reiko?

                  The bloke has had a really good crack at 13 with the Blues though & hasn't performed that well - also I look at player where he's going to add the most value for the team, for me it's his deadly pace, so would prefer him to be on the wing... him & Jordon would be my starting wingers for the ABs.

                  i thought Reiko was pretty much a stand out at 13 for the blues

                  He tends to get caught out of position a fair bit like he does in the AB midfield... he's outstanding when he gets into open space using the obvious pace he has.
                  Think he has played at 13 for the Blues for the last two seasons ?

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                  • get stuffedG get stuffed

                    @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2021:

                    @kiwibloke said in All Blacks 2021:

                    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

                    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                    Loooool

                    Here's a new one

                    Henry was a shit coach but Laumape was the answer at 12 and an asset we needed to keep.

                    Keep delivering Fern

                    It's getting better. Havili is apparently the answer at 13.

                    That's not getting started on the Laumape (5'7", 105 kgs) versus Nonu (6', 108kgs) comparisons.

                    Who would you have at 13 then ? Rieko Ioane certainly isn't the answer, he gets caught out position every time he plays in the midfield, he tends to drift across to the wing most of the time, when he has performed well starting in the midfield it's always when he's attacked down the flanks... put him back on the wings where he belongs, why the hell would anyone want play one of the fastest wingers in the world out of position anyway ?

                    L & N are not that tall compared to SBWs as a midfielder, think he was about 6'5'' he didn't break the advantage line up the guts as much them because they have a lower centre of gravity.

                    in fairness, using your logic, Rieko hasn't had a long run of games at 13, they keep doing what you suggest by putting him back to 11. Surely if Laumape needed a long run to really settle in the black jersey so might Reiko?

                    The bloke has had a really good crack at 13 with the Blues though & hasn't performed that well - also I look at player where he's going to add the most value for the team, for me it's his deadly pace, so would prefer him to be on the wing... him & Jordon would be my starting wingers for the ABs.

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                    #2797

                    @kiwibloke said in All Blacks 2021:

                    @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2021:

                    @kiwibloke said in All Blacks 2021:

                    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

                    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                    Loooool

                    Here's a new one

                    Henry was a shit coach but Laumape was the answer at 12 and an asset we needed to keep.

                    Keep delivering Fern

                    It's getting better. Havili is apparently the answer at 13.

                    That's not getting started on the Laumape (5'7", 105 kgs) versus Nonu (6', 108kgs) comparisons.

                    Who would you have at 13 then ? Rieko Ioane certainly isn't the answer, he gets caught out position every time he plays in the midfield, he tends to drift across to the wing most of the time, when he has performed well starting in the midfield it's always when he's attacked down the flanks... put him back on the wings where he belongs, why the hell would anyone want play one of the fastest wingers in the world out of position anyway ?

                    L & N are not that tall compared to SBWs as a midfielder, think he was about 6'5'' he didn't break the advantage line up the guts as much them because they have a lower centre of gravity.

                    in fairness, using your logic, Rieko hasn't had a long run of games at 13, they keep doing what you suggest by putting him back to 11. Surely if Laumape needed a long run to really settle in the black jersey so might Reiko?

                    The bloke has had a really good crack at 13 with the Blues though & hasn't performed that well - also I look at player where he's going to add the most value for the team, for me it's his deadly pace, so would prefer him to be on the wing... him & Jordon would be my starting wingers for the ABs.

                    I'm having a good time imagining @Tim's head exploding about now.

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                      @kiwibloke making all the early running in the 2022 White Knight Comp - and Broken Record.

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                      • mariner4lifeM Online
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                        #2799

                        Fucking looooool

                        Laumape has the same attributes of the most well-rounded 12 of the past 20 years

                        Am I being pranked here?

                        They are brown dudes who played 12 for the canes, and they both have 2 legs. All similarities end there

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                        • get stuffedG get stuffed

                          @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2021:

                          @kiwibloke said in All Blacks 2021:

                          @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

                          @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                          Loooool

                          Here's a new one

                          Henry was a shit coach but Laumape was the answer at 12 and an asset we needed to keep.

                          Keep delivering Fern

                          It's getting better. Havili is apparently the answer at 13.

                          That's not getting started on the Laumape (5'7", 105 kgs) versus Nonu (6', 108kgs) comparisons.

                          Who would you have at 13 then ? Rieko Ioane certainly isn't the answer, he gets caught out position every time he plays in the midfield, he tends to drift across to the wing most of the time, when he has performed well starting in the midfield it's always when he's attacked down the flanks... put him back on the wings where he belongs, why the hell would anyone want play one of the fastest wingers in the world out of position anyway ?

                          L & N are not that tall compared to SBWs as a midfielder, think he was about 6'5'' he didn't break the advantage line up the guts as much them because they have a lower centre of gravity.

                          in fairness, using your logic, Rieko hasn't had a long run of games at 13, they keep doing what you suggest by putting him back to 11. Surely if Laumape needed a long run to really settle in the black jersey so might Reiko?

                          The bloke has had a really good crack at 13 with the Blues though & hasn't performed that well - also I look at player where he's going to add the most value for the team, for me it's his deadly pace, so would prefer him to be on the wing... him & Jordon would be my starting wingers for the ABs.

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                          @kiwibloke said in All Blacks 2021:

                          @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2021:

                          @kiwibloke said in All Blacks 2021:

                          @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

                          @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                          Loooool

                          Here's a new one

                          Henry was a shit coach but Laumape was the answer at 12 and an asset we needed to keep.

                          Keep delivering Fern

                          It's getting better. Havili is apparently the answer at 13.

                          That's not getting started on the Laumape (5'7", 105 kgs) versus Nonu (6', 108kgs) comparisons.

                          Who would you have at 13 then ? Rieko Ioane certainly isn't the answer, he gets caught out position every time he plays in the midfield, he tends to drift across to the wing most of the time, when he has performed well starting in the midfield it's always when he's attacked down the flanks... put him back on the wings where he belongs, why the hell would anyone want play one of the fastest wingers in the world out of position anyway ?

                          L & N are not that tall compared to SBWs as a midfielder, think he was about 6'5'' he didn't break the advantage line up the guts as much them because they have a lower centre of gravity.

                          in fairness, using your logic, Rieko hasn't had a long run of games at 13, they keep doing what you suggest by putting him back to 11. Surely if Laumape needed a long run to really settle in the black jersey so might Reiko?

                          The bloke has had a really good crack at 13 with the Blues though & hasn't performed that well - also I look at player where he's going to add the most value for the team, for me it's his deadly pace, so would prefer him to be on the wing... him & Jordon would be my starting wingers for the ABs.

                          Best centre I have seen was also the bloody fastest in the backline, one Bruce Robertson, used his pace to run wingers into position!

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                          • Dan54D Dan54

                            @kiwibloke said in All Blacks 2021:

                            @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2021:

                            @kiwibloke said in All Blacks 2021:

                            @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

                            @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                            Loooool

                            Here's a new one

                            Henry was a shit coach but Laumape was the answer at 12 and an asset we needed to keep.

                            Keep delivering Fern

                            It's getting better. Havili is apparently the answer at 13.

                            That's not getting started on the Laumape (5'7", 105 kgs) versus Nonu (6', 108kgs) comparisons.

                            Who would you have at 13 then ? Rieko Ioane certainly isn't the answer, he gets caught out position every time he plays in the midfield, he tends to drift across to the wing most of the time, when he has performed well starting in the midfield it's always when he's attacked down the flanks... put him back on the wings where he belongs, why the hell would anyone want play one of the fastest wingers in the world out of position anyway ?

                            L & N are not that tall compared to SBWs as a midfielder, think he was about 6'5'' he didn't break the advantage line up the guts as much them because they have a lower centre of gravity.

                            in fairness, using your logic, Rieko hasn't had a long run of games at 13, they keep doing what you suggest by putting him back to 11. Surely if Laumape needed a long run to really settle in the black jersey so might Reiko?

                            The bloke has had a really good crack at 13 with the Blues though & hasn't performed that well - also I look at player where he's going to add the most value for the team, for me it's his deadly pace, so would prefer him to be on the wing... him & Jordon would be my starting wingers for the ABs.

                            Best centre I have seen was also the bloody fastest in the backline, one Bruce Robertson, used his pace to run wingers into position!

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                            @dan54

                            I've had a bit to do with him up here, coaching and a bit socially, true gent.

                            https://www.theroar.com.au/2021/08/25/bruce-robertson-was-majestic-aristocratic-elegant-yes-i-am-talking-about-a-rugby-player/

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                            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                              Fucking looooool

                              Laumape has the same attributes of the most well-rounded 12 of the past 20 years

                              Am I being pranked here?

                              They are brown dudes who played 12 for the canes, and they both have 2 legs. All similarities end there

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                              @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                              Fucking looooool

                              Laumape has the same attributes of the most well-rounded 12 of the past 20 years

                              Am I being pranked here?

                              They are brown dudes who played 12 for the canes, and they both have 2 legs. All similarities end there

                              It's unbelievable some of the shite you & a few others have fired at Laumape, yet you've said stuff all about the underperforming midfielders Foster has selected.

                              Anyway, the game is obviously controlled by the forwards - so for Ireland & France to do us over so badly in the forwards was an absolute bloody shocker ! we lacked mongrel/urgency taking the ball up through the phases, also didn't get enough numbers to clean, blow past the ball smashing the opposition players out the way... instead our ball carriers got isolated too much, allowing them to either steal our ball, win a penalty or slow our possession down a lot, this is just basic stuff we didn't do, the coaching staff & players have wake up & get things right.
                              Hopefully Schimdt can add some common sense to the coaching group, otherwise things are just going to worse, christ, that's a scary thought.

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                              • get stuffedG get stuffed

                                @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                                Fucking looooool

                                Laumape has the same attributes of the most well-rounded 12 of the past 20 years

                                Am I being pranked here?

                                They are brown dudes who played 12 for the canes, and they both have 2 legs. All similarities end there

                                It's unbelievable some of the shite you & a few others have fired at Laumape, yet you've said stuff all about the underperforming midfielders Foster has selected.

                                Anyway, the game is obviously controlled by the forwards - so for Ireland & France to do us over so badly in the forwards was an absolute bloody shocker ! we lacked mongrel/urgency taking the ball up through the phases, also didn't get enough numbers to clean, blow past the ball smashing the opposition players out the way... instead our ball carriers got isolated too much, allowing them to either steal our ball, win a penalty or slow our possession down a lot, this is just basic stuff we didn't do, the coaching staff & players have wake up & get things right.
                                Hopefully Schimdt can add some common sense to the coaching group, otherwise things are just going to worse, christ, that's a scary thought.

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                                @kiwibloke Can you point to a single outstanding, or at least quality, test match performance from Laumape?

                                I am struggling to think of any.

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                                  @kiwibloke said in All Blacks 2021:

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                                  Loooool

                                  Here's a new one

                                  Henry was a shit coach but Laumape was the answer at 12 and an asset we needed to keep.

                                  Keep delivering Fern

                                  It's getting better. Havili is apparently the answer at 13.

                                  That's not getting started on the Laumape (5'7", 105 kgs) versus Nonu (6', 108kgs) comparisons.

                                  Who would you have at 13 then ? Rieko Ioane certainly isn't the answer, he gets caught out position every time he plays in the midfield, he tends to drift across to the wing most of the time, when he has performed well starting in the midfield it's always when he's attacked down the flanks... put him back on the wings where he belongs, why the hell would anyone want play one of the fastest wingers in the world out of position anyway ?

                                  L & N are not that tall compared to SBWs as a midfielder, think he was about 6'5'' he didn't break the advantage line up the guts as much them because they have a lower centre of gravity.

                                  in fairness, using your logic, Rieko hasn't had a long run of games at 13, they keep doing what you suggest by putting him back to 11. Surely if Laumape needed a long run to really settle in the black jersey so might Reiko?

                                  The bloke has had a really good crack at 13 with the Blues though & hasn't performed that well - also I look at player where he's going to add the most value for the team, for me it's his deadly pace, so would prefer him to be on the wing... him & Jordon would be my starting wingers for the ABs.

                                  Best centre I have seen was also the bloody fastest in the backline, one Bruce Robertson, used his pace to run wingers into position!

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                                  @dan54 said in All Blacks 2021:

                                  @kiwibloke said in All Blacks 2021:

                                  @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2021:

                                  @kiwibloke said in All Blacks 2021:

                                  @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

                                  @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                                  Loooool

                                  Here's a new one

                                  Henry was a shit coach but Laumape was the answer at 12 and an asset we needed to keep.

                                  Keep delivering Fern

                                  It's getting better. Havili is apparently the answer at 13.

                                  That's not getting started on the Laumape (5'7", 105 kgs) versus Nonu (6', 108kgs) comparisons.

                                  Who would you have at 13 then ? Rieko Ioane certainly isn't the answer, he gets caught out position every time he plays in the midfield, he tends to drift across to the wing most of the time, when he has performed well starting in the midfield it's always when he's attacked down the flanks... put him back on the wings where he belongs, why the hell would anyone want play one of the fastest wingers in the world out of position anyway ?

                                  L & N are not that tall compared to SBWs as a midfielder, think he was about 6'5'' he didn't break the advantage line up the guts as much them because they have a lower centre of gravity.

                                  in fairness, using your logic, Rieko hasn't had a long run of games at 13, they keep doing what you suggest by putting him back to 11. Surely if Laumape needed a long run to really settle in the black jersey so might Reiko?

                                  The bloke has had a really good crack at 13 with the Blues though & hasn't performed that well - also I look at player where he's going to add the most value for the team, for me it's his deadly pace, so would prefer him to be on the wing... him & Jordon would be my starting wingers for the ABs.

                                  Best centre I have seen was also the bloody fastest in the backline, one Bruce Robertson, used his pace to run wingers into position!

                                  Totally agree, the bloke had all the skills & pace, was a very smart player too.

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                                    @kiwibloke Can you point to a single outstanding, or at least quality, test match performance from Laumape?

                                    I am struggling to think of any.

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                                    @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

                                    @kiwibloke Can you point to a single outstanding, or at least quality, test match performance from Laumape?

                                    I am struggling to think of any.

                                    With your mindset about him there's not much point... anyway, may as move on as there's plenty to talk about with this current AB team with how poorly they're performing & looking how to get them back on track again.

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                                      @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

                                      @kiwibloke Can you point to a single outstanding, or at least quality, test match performance from Laumape?

                                      I am struggling to think of any.

                                      With your mindset about him there's not much point... anyway, may as move on as there's plenty to talk about with this current AB team with how poorly they're performing & looking how to get them back on track again.

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                                        @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        @kiwibloke Can you point to a single outstanding, or at least quality, test match performance from Laumape?

                                        I am struggling to think of any.

                                        With your mindset about him there's not much point... anyway, may as move on as there's plenty to talk about with this current AB team with how poorly they're performing & looking how to get them back on track again.

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                                        @kiwibloke said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        With your mindset about him there's not much point...

                                        I'm sorry, with my "mindset" there's not much point in examining his performances at international level, even from a committed advocates' point of view?

                                        You have consistently advocated him as the best option for the AB midfield, yet you do not want to highlight a single test match performance?

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                                          @kiwibloke said in All Blacks 2021:

                                          With your mindset about him there's not much point...

                                          I'm sorry, with my "mindset" there's not much point in examining his performances at international level, even from a committed advocates' point of view?

                                          You have consistently advocated him as the best option for the AB midfield, yet you do not want to highlight a single test match performance?

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                                          @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

                                          @kiwibloke said in All Blacks 2021:

                                          With your mindset about him there's not much point...

                                          I'm sorry, with my "mindset" there's not much point in examining his performances at international level, even from a committed advocates' point of view?

                                          You have consistently advocated him as the best option for the AB midfield, yet you do not want to highlight a single test match performance?

                                          He left ages ago mate - as said may as well move on... how good are your analsying skills ? what ideas do you have to improve the team & what are they in depth ?

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